Dusty Bad Managerial Moves Thread

[frostwyrm]

ZZ doesn't understand stats. Lenny Harris getting 24 hits for the Cubs does not mean 24 good decisions were made to let him play. Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of stats knows it was a bad decision to let Lenny play even one game.

[CoolHandLuke]

Link?

I totally thought he was dead too. I was a huge Ultimate Warrior fan, of course I was 5.

 

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2790

 

 

HOLY CRAP!!!! DON'T MESS WITH WARRIOR!

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

ZZ doesn't understand stats. Lenny Harris getting 24 hits for the Cubs does not mean 24 good decisions were made to let him play. Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of stats knows it was a bad decision to let Lenny play even one game.

 

And who can forget Dusty hitting Lenny lead-off? That alone should have your membership card in the Mangers Union revoked.

[Tim]

Is nobody else upset that Dusty didn't walk Hernandez to set up a DP with a sinkerballer on the mound? Once Dempster got Nevin to popup, I would have sworn he'd put the veteran on first to get to a relative rookie and a double play possibility.

[samuelperaltasosa]

Remember Dusty hitting and running with Rey Ordonez at the plate and Alez Gonzalez on base? LMFAO! Man he's an idiot.

[AFCubsFan]

I've figured out the Dusty logic on the worst players getting the most AB's off the bench. The following isn't a Dusty quote, it's just an attempt to understand the way he thinks. See if you can follow as I break down some Dusty logic.

 

If a player's OBP is .250, that means, on average, he gets on base once every 4 AB's. A player with a .350 OBP would, on average, reach base every 2.9 AB's. You always have to bring the players with the lowest OBP off the bench first, because they need more AB's to get their hits. You have to get them all the AB's you can. That way, they're always getting closer to getting a hit. The higher OBP guys don't need the AB's. They require less AB's to get hits, so you have to give them less AB's. It's simple math. You can ask Dick Pole.

 

Wow, that hurt my brain just thinking about it!

[nilodnayr]

I've figured out the Dusty logic on the worst players getting the most AB's off the bench. The following isn't a Dusty quote, it's just an attempt to understand the way he thinks. See if you can follow as I break down some Dusty logic.

 

If a player's OBP is .250, that means, on average, he gets on base once every 4 AB's. A player with a .350 OBP would, on average, reach base every 2.9 AB's. You always have to bring the players with the lowest OBP off the bench first, because they need more AB's to get their hits. You have to get them all the AB's you can. That way, they're always getting closer to getting a hit. The higher OBP guys don't need the AB's. They require less AB's to get hits, so you have to give them less AB's. It's simple math. You can ask Dick Pole.

 

Wow, that hurt my brain just thinking about it!

 

maybe it hurt your brain to make up something so idiotic. thats not how dusty thinks

[AFCubsFan]

I've figured out the Dusty logic on the worst players getting the most AB's off the bench. The following isn't a Dusty quote, it's just an attempt to understand the way he thinks. See if you can follow as I break down some Dusty logic.

 

If a player's OBP is .250, that means, on average, he gets on base once every 4 AB's. A player with a .350 OBP would, on average, reach base every 2.9 AB's. You always have to bring the players with the lowest OBP off the bench first, because they need more AB's to get their hits. You have to get them all the AB's you can. That way, they're always getting closer to getting a hit. The higher OBP guys don't need the AB's. They require less AB's to get hits, so you have to give them less AB's. It's simple math. You can ask Dick Pole.

 

Wow, that hurt my brain just thinking about it!

 

maybe it hurt your brain to make up something so idiotic. thats not how dusty thinks

 

The theory would certainly justify his choice of pinch hitters and spot starters. I'm just looking at it from every angle even though the real reason for his decisions is one of the following:

1) Dusty is an idiot

2) The only stat that matters to Dusty for a bench player is Years Old

3) 2 kind of goes back to 1...Dusty is an idiot

[nilodnayr]

I've figured out the Dusty logic on the worst players getting the most AB's off the bench. The following isn't a Dusty quote, it's just an attempt to understand the way he thinks. See if you can follow as I break down some Dusty logic.

 

If a player's OBP is .250, that means, on average, he gets on base once every 4 AB's. A player with a .350 OBP would, on average, reach base every 2.9 AB's. You always have to bring the players with the lowest OBP off the bench first, because they need more AB's to get their hits. You have to get them all the AB's you can. That way, they're always getting closer to getting a hit. The higher OBP guys don't need the AB's. They require less AB's to get hits, so you have to give them less AB's. It's simple math. You can ask Dick Pole.

 

Wow, that hurt my brain just thinking about it!

 

maybe it hurt your brain to make up something so idiotic. thats not how dusty thinks

 

The theory would certainly justify his choice of pinch hitters and spot starters. I'm just looking at it from every angle even though the real reason for his decisions is one of the following:

1) Dusty is an idiot

2) The only stat that matters to Dusty for a bench player is Years Old

3) 2 kind of goes back to 1...Dusty is an idiot

 

Well last year when Sammy went down, why didnt he chose Goodwin to start instead of Holly? Goodwin had the lower OBP so by your stupid logic of Dustys moves he would have started Goodwin. Way to use one instance to try to prove your point. Why is everyone so sample size stupid these days, its really getting annoying.

[ZZ Thorn]

Why is everyone so sample size stupid these days, its really getting annoying.

 

I think some posters are stat worshippers, or Stat Suckers if you will. You give them stats, however few, they bow and say 'Case closed, the stats have spoken.'

[AFCubsFan]

I've figured out the Dusty logic on the worst players getting the most AB's off the bench. The following isn't a Dusty quote, it's just an attempt to understand the way he thinks. See if you can follow as I break down some Dusty logic.

 

If a player's OBP is .250, that means, on average, he gets on base once every 4 AB's. A player with a .350 OBP would, on average, reach base every 2.9 AB's. You always have to bring the players with the lowest OBP off the bench first, because they need more AB's to get their hits. You have to get them all the AB's you can. That way, they're always getting closer to getting a hit. The higher OBP guys don't need the AB's. They require less AB's to get hits, so you have to give them less AB's. It's simple math. You can ask Dick Pole.

 

Wow, that hurt my brain just thinking about it!

 

maybe it hurt your brain to make up something so idiotic. thats not how dusty thinks

 

The theory would certainly justify his choice of pinch hitters and spot starters. I'm just looking at it from every angle even though the real reason for his decisions is one of the following:

1) Dusty is an idiot

2) The only stat that matters to Dusty for a bench player is Years Old

3) 2 kind of goes back to 1...Dusty is an idiot

 

Well last year when Sammy went down, why didnt he chose Goodwin to start instead of Holly? Goodwin had the lower OBP so by your stupid logic of Dustys moves he would have started Goodwin. Way to use one instance to try to prove your point. Why is everyone so sample size stupid these days, its really getting annoying.

 

You're right, I should eliminate option 2 and stick with "Dusty is an idiot."

[nilodnayr]

I've figured out the Dusty logic on the worst players getting the most AB's off the bench. The following isn't a Dusty quote, it's just an attempt to understand the way he thinks. See if you can follow as I break down some Dusty logic.

 

If a player's OBP is .250, that means, on average, he gets on base once every 4 AB's. A player with a .350 OBP would, on average, reach base every 2.9 AB's. You always have to bring the players with the lowest OBP off the bench first, because they need more AB's to get their hits. You have to get them all the AB's you can. That way, they're always getting closer to getting a hit. The higher OBP guys don't need the AB's. They require less AB's to get hits, so you have to give them less AB's. It's simple math. You can ask Dick Pole.

 

Wow, that hurt my brain just thinking about it!

 

maybe it hurt your brain to make up something so idiotic. thats not how dusty thinks

 

The theory would certainly justify his choice of pinch hitters and spot starters. I'm just looking at it from every angle even though the real reason for his decisions is one of the following:

1) Dusty is an idiot

2) The only stat that matters to Dusty for a bench player is Years Old

3) 2 kind of goes back to 1...Dusty is an idiot

 

Well last year when Sammy went down, why didnt he chose Goodwin to start instead of Holly? Goodwin had the lower OBP so by your stupid logic of Dustys moves he would have started Goodwin. Way to use one instance to try to prove your point. Why is everyone so sample size stupid these days, its really getting annoying.

 

You're right, I should eliminate option 2 and stick with "Dusty is an idiot."

 

yup you're right, some one is an idiot

[CaliforniaRaisin]

yup you're right, some one is an idiot

 

Nilodnayr, personal attacks aren't allowed here.

Edited April 12, 2005 by CaliforniaRaisin

[don_kessinger_was_good]

GO DUSTY, GO GO, YAY, YAY, YOU ARE THE MAN, IN DUSTY WE TRUSTY, BACK-TO-BACK WINNING SEASONS, YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

LEAVE DUSTY ALONE, HE IS BETR THAN ANY OF U CAN EVER BE, IN DUSTY I TRUSTY, YAY!!!!!

[ZZ Thorn]

GO DUSTY, GO GO, YAY, YAY, YOU ARE THE MAN, IN DUSTY WE TRUSTY, BACK-TO-BACK WINNING SEASONS, YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

LEAVE DUSTY ALONE, HE IS BETR THAN ANY OF U CAN EVER BE, IN DUSTY I TRUSTY, YAY!!!!!

 

I predict a massive coronary for Don before the season is over. We'll tell Dusty to lay some flowers on your grave.

[E.J.]

yup you're right, some one is an idiot

 

Nilodnayr, personal attacks aren't allowed here.

 

Newly appointed Mod on a power trip??? :D :wink:

[Tim]

The behavior here is degenerating and Raisin was right to step in.

 

And, for the record, if I see anyone labeling an entire class of posters with a mocking nickname again, said person will get an automatic time away from the site. And it is entirely within the purview of any mod on this site to determine what is mocking and what isn't.

 

I hope that this message is perfectly clear.

[nilodnayr]

yup you're right, some one is an idiot

 

Nilodnayr, personal attacks aren't allowed here.

 

we all know im well aware, ill take a break from this thread for a while, until there are some decent posts instead of just stupid stories

[ZZ Thorn]

yup you're right, some one is an idiot

 

Nilodnayr, personal attacks aren't allowed here.

 

we all know im well aware, ill take a break from this thread for a while, until there are some decent posts instead of just stupid stories

 

I try...but they keep pulling me back in!

[snoodmonger]

Link?

I totally thought he was dead too. I was a huge Ultimate Warrior fan, of course I was 5.

 

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2790

 

I think everyone should read this. Too funny.

[Shilzzz]

I've figured out the Dusty logic on the worst players getting the most AB's off the bench. The following isn't a Dusty quote, it's just an attempt to understand the way he thinks. See if you can follow as I break down some Dusty logic.

 

If a player's OBP is .250, that means, on average, he gets on base once every 4 AB's. A player with a .350 OBP would, on average, reach base every 2.9 AB's. You always have to bring the players with the lowest OBP off the bench first, because they need more AB's to get their hits. You have to get them all the AB's you can. That way, they're always getting closer to getting a hit. The higher OBP guys don't need the AB's. They require less AB's to get hits, so you have to give them less AB's. It's simple math. You can ask Dick Pole.

 

Wow, that hurt my brain just thinking about it!

 

i like your post, but i think this is what happens in his head:

 

who has gotten me my coffee and toothpicks more often? hmm. well perez was here last year, so it has to be him.

 

Neifi, you're at second today.

[Coach C]

Heh. I posted a question on those question mailbags to Carrie Muskat. Just got an e-mail from that person.

 

Would someone please explain to me what is in the world is wrong with Dusty Baker? Having Jose Macias being the first pinch hitter off the bench? It seems to me that Dusty is playing himself to get himself fired. In no way you should pinch hit a career .300 OBP (Macias) player over a .333 OBP (Hairston) player, let alone that Jason Dubois is by far more superior in terms of talent and younger than Macias?

 

The answer I got?

 

lot of dusty's moves are based on matchups. macias probably has seen that pitcher before, or macias can bunt and make better contact than dubois.

[goonys evil twin]

Hey coach, I was just noticing the picture in your signature. Do you really think it was a mistake to let Moises Alou walk this offseason?

[Coach C]

Hey coach, I was just noticing the picture in your signature. Do you really think it was a mistake to let Moises Alou walk this offseason?

 

Haha. No, Treebeard did the sig for me, so I'm just representing his work. :lol:

[David]

Apparently, Perez is starting at 2B again today.

 

He must really want to keep Hairston fresh.