Cubs (Taillon) vs White Sox (Crochet): 8/9/24, 7:10pm

[Tim]

54 minutes ago, TomtheBombadil said:

W/ 3 data pts? Please do so maybe you glimpse how ridiculous that is. He’s averaged 3 WAR, peaked with 5, a 90 MPH avg EV, 114 max, 20+ HRs, a .200+ IsoSLG, + CF defense, + baserunning….Like just say you don’t want to pay likely a cheap trade, are worried abt the cap at least as much as the roster! 

I'm worried he's toast.

[Stratos]

This was a terrible game to watch.

[Stratos]

Just now, Tim said:

I'm worried he's toast.

I assume you're still talking about Luis Robert Jr.  I don't know his injury history but at 26 years old i would be skeptical he's toast.  It definitely could partly be his environment, but I have no idea.

Trading PCA for him would be insane based on his injury history though.  Then if we look at cost and control there's no argument whatsoever who the most valuable player is.

[Jason Ross]

4 minutes ago, Stratos said:

I assume you're still talking about Luis Robert Jr.  I don't know his injury history but at 26 years old i would be skeptical he's toast.  It definitely could partly be his environment, but I have no idea.

Trading PCA for him would be insane based on his injury history though.  Then if we look at cost and control there's no argument whatsoever who the most valuable player is.

https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/luis-robert-player-injuries

 

His injury history is extensive. I'm not saying he is or isn't toast, but Robert isn't a typical 26-year-old in terms of his injuries. Some of those are more nagging, others are 60-day IL trips, but Robert has a long history. 

[Rcal10]

6 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/luis-robert-player-injuries

 

His injury history is extensive. I'm not saying he is or isn't toast, but Robert isn't a typical 26-year-old in terms of his injuries. Some of those are more nagging, others are 60-day IL trips, but Robert has a long history. 

A long injury history and how it has affected him make him too questionable to trade PCA to get him. Sox are not going to get as much as they hope for him. 

[mfcubs22]

3 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

If he can hold even a 97 wRC+ he's a damn near 4 fWAR player.

If he put up a 97 wRC+ over a full season, that might be a 6 fWAR year. 

[Stratos]

1 hour ago, 1908_Cubs said:

https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/luis-robert-player-injuries

 

His injury history is extensive. I'm not saying he is or isn't toast, but Robert isn't a typical 26-year-old in terms of his injuries. Some of those are more nagging, others are 60-day IL trips, but Robert has a long history. 

Thanks.

Just to be clear, when I said "Trading PCA for him would be insane based on his injury history" I meant that based on all the time Robert missed with injury it would be ridiculous to trade PCA for him.  I didn't mean that it would be "insane" to trade for him only based on his injury history. 

3 years of Robert for 5-6 more years of PCA at much cheaper salary is such a lopsided trade that Hoyer wouldn't even bother to consider.

[Stratos]

44 minutes ago, TomtheBombadil said:

Sure using some backwards analysis based on a conclusion you already made. Trends lol just be straght up and say its most cap/imaginary payroll efficiency thing! 
 

Idk how yous plan to land Juan Soto, also aging and the same age, with this punchless, vanilla offense 

Payroll and salary and value per dollar aren't imaginary.  Imaginary is the fact that you pretend they don't exist simply because in your fantasies you don't want them to.  The business of baseball is a reality, for better or worse.  Complaining about it in 90% of your posts isn't going to change it, it's a giant waste of your time and energy and is irritating to read over and over again.

It matters to a front office whether a player makes 20 million or 2 million because they don't run a charity or a social commune, they run a business with limited resources.  Stop whining and deal with reality.

[Jason Ross]

45 minutes ago, TomtheBombadil said:

And yet he’s still hitting the ball as hard as ever, running the bases, playing defense, getting the ball in the air, etc etc…Would a player with a wrecked body being doing any of that at an up the middle position? No is the simple answer, this is the highest level of a professional sport

As stated, I wasn't saying anything about Robert being cooked or not. The previous poster mentioned they didn't know his injury history exactly. I provided it with context that it *is* a good amount of injuries. Nothing in that post was to be taken further as I was not entering into this debate. Only providing the details someone asked for.