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This reminds me of an old story from high school. Back in the day, our school was somewhat of a powerhouse. We ran the ball like 98% of the time, and the signals coming in from the sidelines couldn't have been easier for opponents to figure out.  This one particular game, my cousin was the QB. He ran up to the head coach in the first quarter to let him know the other team "figured out" our signals and knew what plays he was calling.  Coach says, "I'll change them if they can figure out how to stop us".  We averaged like 15 yards a carry that game.  Coach is in the high school HoF.

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4 minutes ago, Ding Dong Johnson said:

This reminds me of an old story from high school. Back in the day, our school was somewhat of a powerhouse. We ran the ball like 98% of the time, and the signals coming in from the sidelines couldn't have been easier for opponents to figure out.  This one particular game, my cousin was the QB. He ran up to the head coach in the first quarter to let him know the other team "figured out" our signals and knew what plays he was calling.  Coach says, "I'll change them if they can figure out how to stop us".  We averaged like 15 yards a carry that game.  Coach is in the high school HoF.

Play calling is overrated, execution is underrated-Tom Osborne(I think)

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If this is a sportsmanship thing, and they did it, they must own up to it. In this case, as in most cases, the cover-up is worse than the crime. Harbaugh should admit it and take the lumps. If he denies and they have evidence (don't know how other than scanning the faces in the crowd), he should never coach another college football game. Not for doing it, but for attempting to cover it up. 

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21 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

If this is a sportsmanship thing, and they did it, they must own up to it. In this case, as in most cases, the cover-up is worse than the crime. Harbaugh should admit it and take the lumps. If he denies and they have evidence (don't know how other than scanning the faces in the crowd), he should never coach another college football game. Not for doing it, but for attempting to cover it up. 

He's already adamantly denied knowing anything about it.  But there's reports now that they've identified the staffer, and reports on UM message boards (whose insider credentials verified by the admins) that he was sending friends not affiliated with the program (aka unpaid) to games to record signals.  I'm guessing the staffer decided that he could play in the gray area and claim they weren't affiliated with the program if caught.  Not sure how much Harbaugh knew...I'd think he would have to have some idea, but the staffer is a former military code breaker who was hired to read and decade opponents signs by watching game tape and at games (he's seen on the sideline of photos released).  I'm not being ignorant here, just playing devil's advocate, but its possible Harbaugh knew he had this great sign stealer and never questioned how he was so good at what he did/assumed he was just a military grade codebreaker that could really do this on the fly.  Either way, Harbaugh has to know what is going on in his program per NCAA regulations so it would still fall on him.

Slightly humorous but there's also a report that OSU knew about the sign stealing before last year's game and apparently changed up all their signals and changed them again at halftime of the game.  Michigan outscored OSU 28-3 after halftime. 

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8 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

He's already adamantly denied knowing anything about it.  But there's reports now that they've identified the staffer, and reports on UM message boards (whose insider credentials verified by the admins) that he was sending friends not affiliated with the program (aka unpaid) to games to record signals.  I'm guessing the staffer decided that he could play in the gray area and claim they weren't affiliated with the program if caught.  Not sure how much Harbaugh knew...I'd think he would have to have some idea, but the staffer is a former military code breaker who was hired to read and decade opponents signs by watching game tape and at games (he's seen on the sideline of photos released).  I'm not being ignorant here, just playing devil's advocate, but its possible Harbaugh knew he had this great sign stealer and never questioned how he was so good at what he did/assumed he was just a military grade codebreaker that could really do this on the fly.  Either way, Harbaugh has to know what is going on in his program per NCAA regulations so it would still fall on him.

Slightly humorous but there's also a report that OSU knew about the sign stealing before last year's game and apparently changed up all their signals and changed them again at halftime of the game.  Michigan outscored OSU 28-3 after halftime. 

Plausible deniability - that's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it works out.  

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15 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

Plausible deniability - that's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it works out.  

Like I said, if that's the route he is going to go then he is going to get hammered

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The rest of the B1G had better hope Michigan was cheating and it was materially helping them because I saw nothing whatsoever to make me think either of these teams are hanging with them

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24 minutes ago, Rex Buckingham said:

Kaplan apparently said Harbaugh would have interest... https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2023/10/21/jim-harbaugh-bears-rumors/

I bet he would have interest, not sure if the Bears would. The year he interviewed with the Vikings the Bears made an informal call but didn’t progress beyond that.  Maybe they’re more desperate this time around but I doubt it, they seem stuck in their ways. 

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9 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Iowa Iowa'ed up the end of that game

That was awful. The whole game. We knew it would be terrible and it still seemed worse than I expected

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14 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

That was awful. The whole game. We knew it would be terrible and it still seemed worse than I expected

I'm on the fence about whether the refs were correct in that call.

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1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

Maye having a pretty mediocre game against a 1-5 Virginia squad

That 1, BTW, was a slugfest against William & Mary

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