College Football - Bowl Games

[CubinNY]

 

You’re not honestly this naive are you? None of those things are why 5 stars go to Bama and Georgia.

Well, ok, yes, other stuff too but if you believe the bagmen stories that stuff happens everywhere down there and yet they do it way better than the others (except Texas A&M this year apparently)

At Alabama they attract talent because they produce NFL players. It’s like a kind of momentum. Saban knows how to prepare these kids to be ready. He’s created a culture. It helps that he also has the highest paid assistants and great college town, but it’s about his process and what he does that sets him apart. I think it’s him, then every other program bunched together, more or less.

[OleMissCub]

 

You’re not honestly this naive are you? None of those things are why 5 stars go to Bama and Georgia.

Well, ok, yes, other stuff too but if you believe the bagmen stories that stuff happens everywhere down there and yet they do it way better than the others (except Texas A&M this year apparently)

At Alabama they attract talent because they produce NFL players. It’s like a kind of momentum. Saban knows how to prepare these kids to be ready. He’s created a culture. It helps that he also has the highest paid assistants and great college town, but it’s about his process and what he does that sets him apart. I think it’s him, then every other program bunched together, more or less.

 

Not sure I’d call Tuscaloosa a great college town and I’m positive no blue chip has ever gone to Alabama because of the town.

 

Bama is buying players better than most everyone else. However, being able to buy the best players doesn’t equal success, which is where Saban comes in. They WIN because of Saban. Bama is putting more NFL players into the league than any other college not because Saban is “coaching them up” but because Bama has traditionally had the most blue chip players (read: NFL prospects) while he has been there.

[CubinNY]

Well, ok, yes, other stuff too but if you believe the bagmen stories that stuff happens everywhere down there and yet they do it way better than the others (except Texas A&M this year apparently)

At Alabama they attract talent because they produce NFL players. It’s like a kind of momentum. Saban knows how to prepare these kids to be ready. He’s created a culture. It helps that he also has the highest paid assistants and great college town, but it’s about his process and what he does that sets him apart. I think it’s him, then every other program bunched together, more or less.

 

Not sure I’d call Tuscaloosa a great college town and I’m positive no blue chip has ever gone to Alabama because of the town.

 

Bama is buying players better than most everyone else. However, being able to buy the best players doesn’t equal success, which is where Saban comes in. They WIN because of Saban. Bama is putting more NFL players into the league than any other college not because Saban is “coaching them up” but because Bama has traditionally had the most blue chip players (read: NFL prospects) while he has been there.

You’re full of horsefeathers.

[OleMissCub]

Speaking of Nakobe Dean

 

[WrigleyField 22]

I may be way off, but the playoff system is destined to be disappointing.

 

Instead of expanding, go back to the old bowl format, but instead of naming a national champ afterwards, have a game between the two top teams after bowls are all done. Yea I know it will be a quick turnaround and all, but we still get a championship

 

Where do we stand now as far as these first round playoff games and actually getting us something interesting? 3/16 of interesting games in the semis?

[OleMissCub]

I may be way off, but the playoff system is destined to be disappointing.

 

Instead of expanding, go back to the old bowl format, but instead of naming a national champ afterwards, have a game between the two top teams after bowls are all done. Yea I know it will be a quick turnaround and all, but we still get a championship

 

Where do we stand now as far as these first round playoff games and actually getting us something interesting? 3/16 of interesting games in the semis?

 

I’m still for expanding the playoffs. The competitive balance isn’t that relevant to the matchups themselves because people will still watch. People love brackets and there will be occasional upsets and the beat downs will still get massive ratings. Also, I wouldn’t necessarily take these semi’s being bad as an indication that future playoff games will be just as one sided. The top 4 teams aren’t always the actual Top 4 best teams. For example I think many teams in the top 10 would have beaten Cincinnati like Okie State or Ole Miss or Baylor. There are plenty of 2 loss teams that are better than teams with 1 loss or even teams with no losses. Those teams might have fared better against a Bama or Georgia, but because they were left out we’ll never know. The expanded playoff allows for those type teams to have a shot.

[WrigleyField 22]

I may be way off, but the playoff system is destined to be disappointing.

 

Instead of expanding, go back to the old bowl format, but instead of naming a national champ afterwards, have a game between the two top teams after bowls are all done. Yea I know it will be a quick turnaround and all, but we still get a championship

 

Where do we stand now as far as these first round playoff games and actually getting us something interesting? 3/16 of interesting games in the semis?

 

I’m still for expanding the playoffs. The competitive balance isn’t that relevant to the matchups themselves because people will still watch. People love brackets and there will be occasional upsets and the beat downs will still get massive ratings. Also, I wouldn’t necessarily take these semi’s being bad as an indication that future playoff games will be just as one sided. The top 4 teams aren’t always the actual Top 4 best teams. For example I think many teams in the top 10 would have beaten Cincinnati like Okie State or Ole Miss or Baylor. There are plenty of 2 loss teams that are better than teams with 1 loss or even teams with no losses. Those teams might have fared better against a Bama or Georgia, but because they were left out we’ll never know. The expanded playoff allows for those type teams to have a shot.

Maybe.

 

Perhaps running the regular season straight into the playoffs could help parity too. I'm sure a 4 week layoff helps the top teams recover whereas going straight into a playoffs would introduce some parity due to injury and just fatigue.

 

Shorten the regular season by a game or two. Pay players for playoffs and expand it to 12-16 and let's go.

[soccer10k]

 

You’re not honestly this naive are you? None of those things are why 5 stars go to Bama and Georgia.

Well, ok, yes, other stuff too but if you believe the bagmen stories that stuff happens everywhere down there and yet they do it way better than the others (except Texas A&M this year apparently)

At Alabama they attract talent because they produce NFL players. It’s like a kind of momentum. Saban knows how to prepare these kids to be ready. He’s created a culture. It helps that he also has the highest paid assistants and great college town, but it’s about his process and what he does that sets him apart. I think it’s him, then every other program bunched together, more or less.

 

Yeah, the short term money and the winning obviously matters. But the long term money matters too. If you show well at Bama, even if it’s just for a year, you’re going to be a high pick and they money you make there is more than whatever bag you get handed to go to Bama.

[OleMissCub]

Yeah, the short term money and the winning obviously matters. But the long term money matters too. If you show well at Bama, even if it’s just for a year, you’re going to be a high pick and they money you make there is more than whatever bag you get handed to go to Bama.

 

But we're talking about what gets them there in the first place i.e. why are the players so much better at Bama and Georgia as opposed to Michigan or wherever. I suppose with all money considerations being equal, a player might be inclined to choose Bama over another school because of other factors such as exposure and Saban, etc. However, money considerations are rarely equal. There is usually a highest bidder and they are the ones who get the kid. If Bama offers Joe Blow a 150k NIL package and and LSU offers him a 450k package, he's going to LSU.

[Derwood]

I'm embarrassed for anyone who thought that Penn State was a top 5 team at any time during this season

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'm embarrassed for anyone who thought that Penn State was a top 5 team at any time during this season

Iowa too

[Andy]

Marcus Freeman opens his ND tenure by blowing the biggest lead in 3 decades and losing. I was really hoping to win one of those horsefeathering things before the playoff expands and the major-bowl designation is basically eliminated.

[NOLA]

The Rose Bowl is nuts. In the 2nd quarter I think there’s been 4 plays over 50 yards, including a 97 yard KO return by Utah.

 

And just now, a bomb by OSU who fumbles back to Utah.

[Soul]

Helluva Rose Bowl.

[Derwood]

Helluva Rose Bowl.

 

total bananas

[Soul]

Ugh, Corral. This is why many opt out of the bowl games.

[OleMissCub]

Just great

[Soul]

Helluva Rose Bowl.

 

total bananas

I’m probably biased being a B1G fan but it just seems like the Rose Bowl delivers more often.

[NOLA]

Ugh, Corral. This is why many opt out of the bowl games.

I know that because Joe Tessitore repeated that 14 times.

 

Sweet unis on Ole Miss, though.

[Andy]

Ugh, Corral. This is why many opt out of the bowl games.

It would be nice if every star who did play didn't immediately suffer a catastrophic injury.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I wonder if Corral ever considered opting out of this game.

[OleMissCub]

I wonder if Corral ever considered opting out of this game.

 

Not likely. He’s a savage. I’ve not seen many players that are more competitive than him. He played most of this entire year limping around on one leg.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I wonder if Corral ever considered opting out of this game.

 

Not likely. He’s a savage. I’ve not seen many players that are more competitive than him. He played most of this entire year limping around on one leg.

I feel you haven’t heard a thing Tessitore has said all night.

[OleMissCub]

I wonder if Corral ever considered opting out of this game.

 

Not likely. He’s a savage. I’ve not seen many players that are more competitive than him. He played most of this entire year limping around on one leg.

I feel you haven’t heard a thing Tessitore has said all night.

 

I’m at the game so no.

[Soul]

 

Not likely. He’s a savage. I’ve not seen many players that are more competitive than him. He played most of this entire year limping around on one leg.

I feel you haven’t heard a thing Tessitore has said all night.

 

I’m at the game so no.

It’s really cool, you thinking of us poor SOBs sitting home on the couch.