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You probably can't make this signing official prior to the lockout at this point. That said, it shouldn't really matter if you agree on terms today and finalized the contract in February?
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You probably can't make this signing official prior to the lockout at this point. That said, it shouldn't really matter if you agree on terms today and finalized the contract in February?

 

Probably depends on how long this has been coming. The main obstacle would be the physical right? Normally that doesn't happen in parallel but normally there isn't a literal deadline you're trying to finalize before. Seems like if you know you're close within the last 24 hours you could clear that logistical hurdle to avoid the messiness of waiting months to finalize, but maybe they didn't know or I'm understating the complexity of that step.

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You probably can't make this signing official prior to the lockout at this point. That said, it shouldn't really matter if you agree on terms today and finalized the contract in February?

 

I mean if the CBA drastically changes I can see one or the other side backing out if its not official.

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You probably can't make this signing official prior to the lockout at this point. That said, it shouldn't really matter if you agree on terms today and finalized the contract in February?

 

Probably depends on how long this has been coming. The main obstacle would be the physical right? Normally that doesn't happen in parallel but normally there isn't a literal deadline you're trying to finalize before. Seems like if you know you're close within the last 24 hours you could clear that logistical hurdle to avoid the messiness of waiting months to finalize, but maybe they didn't know or I'm understating the complexity of that step.

 

Yeah, I wonder if given the circumstances they're doing things in parallel or even a bit out of order

I would also think Stroman (or any other prominent FAs) could thorough physicals from 3rd party/team trusted physicians already in hand.

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Jed - “We are targeting velocity this off-season.”

 

Also Jed - “We claimed Wade Miley and are targeting Marcus Stroman.”

 

It’s not like Stroman is bad. But his velocity is nothing to write home about, and if we do manage to grab him it’s not like teams are getting a big difference in looks from our front three.

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Jed - “We are targeting velocity this off-season.”

 

Also Jed - “We claimed Wade Miley and are targeting Marcus Stroman.”

 

It’s not like Stroman is bad. But his velocity is nothing to write home about, and if we do manage to grab him it’s not like teams are getting a big difference in looks from our front three.

 

I was just looking at this out of curiosity. Miley's velocity is 2 mph above Davies, and Stroman would be 2 mph above Arrieta and a shade more than Williams/Sampson/Stewart, so you do get gains even if you aren't signing a bunch of flamethrowers. Plus you hope Alzolay (best velo on the roster) throws more innings, and with the stability offered by Hendricks/Stroman/Miley they might consider trading Mills for offensive help(especially if they sign/trade for some other arm) and get more gains that way.

 

What Stroman would represent is a real need to get a strong defensive SS, though, you're not maximizing that rotation if you have a Hoerner/Madrigal defensive middle infield most days.

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Jed - “We are targeting velocity this off-season.”

 

Also Jed - “We claimed Wade Miley and are targeting Marcus Stroman.”

 

It’s not like Stroman is bad. But his velocity is nothing to write home about, and if we do manage to grab him it’s not like teams are getting a big difference in looks from our front three.

 

I was just looking at this out of curiosity. Miley's velocity is 2 mph above Davies, and Stroman would be 2 mph above Arrieta and a shade more than Williams/Sampson/Stewart, so you do get gains even if you aren't signing a bunch of flamethrowers. Plus you hope Alzolay (best velo on the roster) throws more innings, and with the stability offered by Hendricks/Stroman/Miley they might consider trading Mills for offensive help(especially if they sign/trade for some other arm) and get more gains that way.

 

What Stroman would represent is a real need to get a strong defensive SS, though, you're not maximizing that rotation if you have a Hoerner/Madrigal defensive middle infield most days.

 

Is that Carlos Correa guy good at defense?

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Jed - “We are targeting velocity this off-season.”

 

Also Jed - “We claimed Wade Miley and are targeting Marcus Stroman.”

 

It’s not like Stroman is bad. But his velocity is nothing to write home about, and if we do manage to grab him it’s not like teams are getting a big difference in looks from our front three.

 

I was just looking at this out of curiosity. Miley's velocity is 2 mph above Davies, and Stroman would be 2 mph above Arrieta and a shade more than Williams/Sampson/Stewart, so you do get gains even if you aren't signing a bunch of flamethrowers. Plus you hope Alzolay (best velo on the roster) throws more innings, and with the stability offered by Hendricks/Stroman/Miley they might consider trading Mills for offensive help(especially if they sign/trade for some other arm) and get more gains that way.

 

What Stroman would represent is a real need to get a strong defensive SS, though, you're not maximizing that rotation if you have a Hoerner/Madrigal defensive middle infield most days.

 

Let's pair Stroman with Kikuchi, who's the best combo of groundballs and velo among the second tier guys.

Assuming all 5 guys were to throw the same number of innings to make the math easy, a rotation of

 

Stroman

Hendricks

Kikuchi

Miley

Alzolay

 

Would average a 47.4% ground ball rate based on last year's results. That would be slightly better than any rotation managed last year.

 

The velocity would still be ugly though, as by the same method they'd average 92.0 MPH, which Houston did last year en route to ranking 27th in the league. Though honestly it's mostly just Hendricks being an outlier; the other four guys average out to 93.1 which is roughly average.

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I’m not the biggest fan of Stroman and his profile and especially how his profile is similar to the rest of the rotation along with the defense, but horsefeathers it sign him. Give us something, he seems like a good and fun dude.

 

I know he’s not the prototypical DH type but if we add Stroman, with the rest of the rotation profile, I’d put Madrigal at DH and Nico at 2B most days and sign a defensive SS (hopefully Correa).

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