New CBA negotiations

[UMFan83]

 

This might be a bigger deal to me than the agreement itself. Thank God.

 

So that's how they are planning to make up those games? Are they going to bring back the 2 series they cancelled yesterday at least?

[UMFan83]

How many playoff teams did we end at, 12 or 14?

[Andy]

How many playoff teams did we end at, 12 or 14?

It seemed like they had landed on 12 based on recent reporting, but no confirmation.

 

So that's how they are planning to make up those games? Are they going to bring back the 2 series they cancelled yesterday at least?

Opening Day is April 7, so I'm assuming they will restore the week they said they were cancelling the other day and the other games will get made up when they can. Off days and doubleheaders will both be utilized, I think I saw somewhere.

[UMFan83]

So do we think we might see FA signings tonight or are they going to have an official reopening time? (like tomorrow at 12pm or something)?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

So do we think we might see FA signings tonight or are they going to have an official reopening time? (like tomorrow at 12pm or something)?

 

I would think they need to officially ratify it before players can legally or at least comfortably sign on the dotted line. But I imagine the rumor mill lights up really quickly.

[Andy]

Yeah, it needs to be ratified. Talk is it may happen tonight. It will be soon, anyway.

[Derwood]

How many years on the agreement?

[jersey cubs fan]

[UMFan83]

 

I can live with contracting all 4 teams

[Bertz]

[Andy]

How many years on the agreement?

Five.

[UMFan83]

 

Someone tell Jed to stop spanking it and get to work.

[Bote McBoteface]

Banning shifting is a solution in need of a problem.

 

How so? I’m sick of every left handed hitter being a 3 True Outcomes hitter because they can’t beat the shift.

 

People keep saying “well they should just adjust then” but i mean I think if they could they would have. Maybe when an entire generation of hitters has been developed to go the other way we can see some meaningful adjustment but even still, try going the other way on a 100mph inside fastball. Most sports have some rules about how offenses and defenses are aligned. Not sure the up roar about it.

 

I’d be ok with a shift that requires the defense to be on the IF dirt. It’s just so unnatural to have an infielder camped out in short right field and unfairly neutralizes LHH who already have a disadvantage as most of their batted balls go toward the side of the field they are running towards

 

This is pretty much exactly where I stand on the shift. I didn’t WANT to want to ban the shift. But I’m so sick of left handed hitters being handcuffed by it. Everybody loves to say that they should just go the other way, but there are fielders there, too, also standing exactly where theyre most likely to hit it. And theyre being pitched inside. These are the very best left handed baseball players in the world, if it was that simple for them to just change their approach to beat the shift, they would have done that in 2010 and the shift would be obsolete now.

 

You have to do it carefully. You can’t ban bunt defenses, you cant ban “infield in” or “no doubles outfield”. Just restrict infielders to be positioned within the infield dirt or closer, meaning you can have infielders in front of the dirt but not behind it, with two on one side of 2nd base and two on the other. You might have to be a little more restrictive/creative than that, forcing the defense to be a couple feet away diagonally from 2nd base (restricting a fielder from positioning directly behind 2nd base) but it should be relatively simple to implement and regulate and its mostly how the game was played prior to ~2009

[17 Seconds]

Runner-on-second is gone too

 

 

this ruled though

[Irrelevant Dude]

Runner-on-second is gone too

 

 

this ruled though

If by ruled you mean sucked the joy out of extra innings games, then yes it did!

[17 Seconds]

Runner-on-second is gone too

 

 

this ruled though

If by ruled you mean sucked the joy out of extra innings games, then yes it did!

 

i watched so many non-cubs extra inning games that i wouldn't have. it's instant action/strategy, and 17 inning slogs are overrated.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

this ruled though

If by ruled you mean sucked the joy out of extra innings games, then yes it did!

 

i watched so many non-cubs extra inning games that i wouldn't have. it's instant action/strategy, and 17 inning slogs are overrated.

 

Everyone should like what they like, having said that no you are wrong and should be ashamed. The runner on 2nd solved a problem that did not exist, and solved it in the worst way possible by incentivizing teams to play for 1 run.

[David]

i loved the runner at 2nd and would vote for permanent implementation

[CyHawk_Cub]

WTF is wrong with ties? :ducks:

[David]

Runner-on-second is gone too

 

 

this ruled though

If by ruled you mean sucked the joy out of extra innings games, then yes it did!

 

sucked the joy out? what the horsefeathers?

 

it made them way better.

[Irrelevant Dude]

 

this ruled though

If by ruled you mean sucked the joy out of extra innings games, then yes it did!

 

i watched so many non-cubs extra inning games that i wouldn't have. it's instant action/strategy, and 17 inning slogs are overrated.

There is just something magical about the possibility of that 17 inning game. By no means do I want to stay up until 2am every night watching extra innings marathons, but I want to know that it "might" happen. I like the unknown of going to the ballpark and expecting a 3 hour game but understanding that we might end up being there for 5+ hours instead. That could all just be me, but I enjoy the unpredictability and the chance to see something crazy/historic on any given day.

[Andy]

I do not understand the mindset of anyone that believes anything was added with the fake runner at 2nd. If anything it sucked drama out of the game by lessening the impact of the original run scoring. Who cares if you give up the fake run, you get your own fake runner to match. Conversely, if you score your fake runner in the top of the inning, well, you still have to stop the other team from scoring their fake runner in response. There was no drama. It was boring as horsefeathers, frankly. The one Javy won on a walk-off was cool, I guess, but that was only because he clowned Amir Garrett afterwards.

[Andy]

If by ruled you mean sucked the joy out of extra innings games, then yes it did!

 

i watched so many non-cubs extra inning games that i wouldn't have. it's instant action/strategy, and 17 inning slogs are overrated.

There is just something magical about the possibility of that 17 inning game. By no means do I want to stay up until 2am every night watching extra innings marathons, but I want to know that it "might" happen. I like the unknown of going to the ballpark and expecting a 3 hour game but understanding that we might end up being there for 5+ hours instead. That could all just be me, but I enjoy the unpredictability and the chance to see something crazy/historic on any given day.

The two most fun/dramatic games beginning to end that I've ever been to were 13 innings (Soriano walk-off slam) and 12 innings (Brian Matusz game). I don't think that's a coincidence.

[17 Seconds]

i bet you goons hate the nhl shootout in the regular season too

[Irrelevant Dude]

i bet you goons hate the nhl shootout in the regular season too

I'm not a big enough hockey fan to have a strong opinion, but I do like the shootout better than a tie.