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imagine your favorite baseball team not having a bad manager

 

Madden was fine in the beginning. Does that count?

 

was he? i think maybe the cubs were so good that it just took us a while to realize joe is just a typical baseball manager

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Kyle Ryan scares the horsefeathers out of me

 

I'm slightly encouraged that the velo seems to be coming back, but yeah.

 

Also, that was a travesty of an AB by the umpire. Willson's framing is improved but I only *maybe* strike three was due to him.

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imagine your favorite baseball team not having a bad manager

 

Madden was fine in the beginning. Does that count?

 

was he? i think maybe the cubs were so good that it just took us a while to realize joe is just a typical baseball manager

 

I would say he definitely wasn’t bad in the beginning. Not saying he was good necessarily though.

 

You could be right though that the Cubs were good enough to cover up his flaws. He butchered Game 7 but he also out thought Bochy in Game 4 against SF to get the better hitter to the plate during the rally (can’t remember which one).

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Kyle Ryan scares the horsefeathers out of me

 

I'm slightly encouraged that the velo seems to be coming back, but yeah.

 

Also, that was a travesty of an AB by the umpire. Willson's framing is improved but I only *maybe* strike three was due to him.

The velo bump isn’t nice but he’s still not good and Ross brought him in to face a righty in Stallings who kills lefties. Just bad, bad decision making tonight.

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Madden was fine in the beginning. Does that count?

 

was he? i think maybe the cubs were so good that it just took us a while to realize joe is just a typical baseball manager

 

I would say he definitely wasn’t bad in the beginning. Not saying he was good necessarily though.

 

I think he was good initially. The problem is that the half dozen things he did that we're innovative became table stakes over the course of his tenure. So then he just ended up a mediocre manager with a massive ego preventing him from learning from his mistakes (because he can't admit to making one).

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Madden was fine in the beginning. Does that count?

 

was he? i think maybe the cubs were so good that it just took us a while to realize joe is just a typical baseball manager

 

I would say he definitely wasn’t bad in the beginning. Not saying he was good necessarily though.

 

You could be right though that the Cubs were good enough to cover up his flaws. He butchered Game 7 but he also out thought Bochy in Game 4 against SF to get the better hitter to the plate during the rally (can’t remember which one).

Contreras was the guy he outfoxed Bochy to get up, after burning Coghlan.

 

Occurs to me moves like that aren't really going to happen much anymore in the 3 batter age.

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