Trout signs massive extension (12/$430)

[Sammy Sofa]

I can't stop laughing at this horsefeathering photo:

 

 

He looks one of those bop bags that JUST started deflating.

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Trout is going to have the physical appearance of King Kong Bundy by the time he retires.

[Derwood]

Trout is going to have the physical appearance of King Kong Bundy by the time he retires.

 

RIP

[Bluescale]

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I still think he made up his mind he wouldn't extend back during the service time gaming. He seems like the type to hold that grudge.

We'll see. I bet they've only offered him roughly the Rizzo extension x~20%. Unless he's really holding a grudge and back to his normal self this year I'd be he's getting the 7-8 year ~$25 AAV extension offer over next offseason and that will be tough to turn down for him.

 

If he's back to his normal self, do you think he and Boras would agree to a $200M contract that takes him well past his prime?

[Deeg]

No.

[Cubswin11]

 

I still think he made up his mind he wouldn't extend back during the service time gaming. He seems like the type to hold that grudge.

We'll see. I bet they've only offered him roughly the Rizzo extension x~20%. Unless he's really holding a grudge and back to his normal self this year I'd be he's getting the 7-8 year ~$25 AAV extension offer over next offseason and that will be tough to turn down for him.

 

If he's back to his normal self, do you think he and Boras would agree to a $200M contract that takes him well past his prime?

They should, idk if they will. He’s not making a ton more when he hits FA at 30 in all likelihood and can lock in a solid amount and take any risk out of the equation.

[treebird]

We'll see. I bet they've only offered him roughly the Rizzo extension x~20%. Unless he's really holding a grudge and back to his normal self this year I'd be he's getting the 7-8 year ~$25 AAV extension offer over next offseason and that will be tough to turn down for him.

 

If he's back to his normal self, do you think he and Boras would agree to a $200M contract that takes him well past his prime?

They should, idk if they will. He’s not making a ton more when he hits FA at 30 in all likelihood and can lock in a solid amount and take any risk out of the equation.

 

there’s been some quiet buzz that he’s upset about the russell stuff and we know he’s upset about the way the front office abused the system in calling him up. maybe he values getting away from an organization he doesn’t like.

[Brian]

there’s been some quiet buzz that he’s upset about the russell stuff and we know he’s upset about the way the front office abused the system in calling him up. maybe he values getting away from an organization he doesn’t like.

 

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[Cubswin11]

If Kris Bryant gets back to being Kris Bryant, he should be laughing at a $200 million dollar deal. This is especially the case given the nonsense lies about why they didn’t spend

What would you project him to get, either as an extension pre-FA (3 years left including this year) or as a 30 year old FA?

[treebird]

there’s been some quiet buzz that he’s upset about the russell stuff and we know he’s upset about the way the front office abused the system in calling him up. maybe he values getting away from an organization he doesn’t like.

 

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quotes like that are not meaningful.

[Cubswin11]

What would you project him to get, either as an extension pre-FA (3 years left including this year) or as a 30 year old FA?

 

Do I have to acknowledge and play along with, therefore enabling, the owners’ collusion or can I go with what he should be worth? Bryant’s career pre-2018 was basically a top 2-3 RH and overall hitter, a top 3 overall player at a non-1B position, one of the handful best power hitters, and with constantly improving plate discipline. If he gets back on that track this season, and I think he does, he’s easily a $300+ million guy. He should beat the Arenado extension if back on track.

Not arguing what he should get or is really worth, but we know how it actually works. I don't see any way he gets $300+. Arenado "only" got 8/260 and that included his last year of arbitration at ~$30 mil at age 27 and 2 years of FA bought out below the age of 30. KB won't be getting any pre age 30 years of FA bought out (2-3 years of arb bought out, with only 1 reflecting anything close to his real value) if he extends or will be a 30-31 year old FA when he gets there. Whether it's as an early extension or as a FA I think KB is getting closer to $200 million than $300 million. It's why I think around a 7/200 or 8/220 extension done now or next offseason is pretty realistic and he should think real hard about taking it (if offered or something similar) vs waiting to get to FA. Again this is looking at how it actually works vs how it should work.

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If he's back to his normal self, do you think he and Boras would agree to a $200M contract that takes him well past his prime?

They should, idk if they will. He’s not making a ton more when he hits FA at 30 in all likelihood and can lock in a solid amount and take any risk out of the equation.

 

there’s been some quiet buzz that he’s upset about the russell stuff and we know he’s upset about the way the front office abused the system in calling him up. maybe he values getting away from an organization he doesn’t like.

 

where is this from?

[Cubswin11]

They should, idk if they will. He’s not making a ton more when he hits FA at 30 in all likelihood and can lock in a solid amount and take any risk out of the equation.

 

there’s been some quiet buzz that he’s upset about the russell stuff and we know he’s upset about the way the front office abused the system in calling him up. maybe he values getting away from an organization he doesn’t like.

 

where is this from?

I remember hearing or reading that too, forget where now. But him and as wife were not happy about it and how it was handled and that he was kept, allegedly.

[badger]

there’s been some quiet buzz that he’s upset about the russell stuff and we know he’s upset about the way the front office abused the system in calling him up. maybe he values getting away from an organization he doesn’t like.

 

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What’s he gonna say?

 

“The Cubs and Tom Ricketts are trash and I’d rather light myself on fire than play for this manipulative, lying, morally bankrupt ownership, and by extension, organization”

[Regular Show]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/1108149558129786880[/tweet]

[Brian]

What’s he gonna say?

 

“I’ve been really good at focusing on the season at hand and not getting too ahead of myself, When you get too ahead of yourself, it affects your performance and thoughts. I don’t want to get there. It would be a disservice to everybody here and the fans if I’m starting to think about my whole future. I want to focus on winning this year because last year didn’t go the way we wanted to. I want to do everything I can to make sure that doesn’t happen again. I’m 100 percent here this season, and that’s all that matters to me.”

 

And stop there.

[David]

there’s been some quiet buzz that he’s upset about the russell stuff and we know he’s upset about the way the front office abused the system in calling him up. maybe he values getting away from an organization he doesn’t like.

 

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What’s he gonna say?

 

“The Cubs and Tom Ricketts are trash and I’d rather light myself on fire than play for this manipulative, lying, morally bankrupt ownership, and by extension, organization”

 

"i'm not going to talk about an extension"

[squally1313]

 

there’s been some quiet buzz that he’s upset about the russell stuff and we know he’s upset about the way the front office abused the system in calling him up. maybe he values getting away from an organization he doesn’t like.

 

where is this from?

I remember hearing or reading that too, forget where now. But him and as wife were not happy about it and how it was handled and that he was kept, allegedly.

 

I've got a friend of a friend working for Boras, and that's where I heard it from. Mostly Mrs Bryant, but it sounds like she kinda runs the show behind the scenes.

[Bluescale]

Do I have to acknowledge and play along with, therefore enabling, the owners’ collusion or can I go with what he should be worth? Bryant’s career pre-2018 was basically a top 2-3 RH and overall hitter, a top 3 overall player at a non-1B position, one of the handful best power hitters, and with constantly improving plate discipline. If he gets back on that track this season, and I think he does, he’s easily a $300+ million guy. He should beat the Arenado extension if back on track.

Not arguing what he should get or is really worth, but we know how it actually works. I don't see any way he gets $300+. Arenado "only" got 8/260 and that included his last year of arbitration at ~$30 mil at age 27 and 2 years of FA bought out below the age of 30. KB won't be getting any pre age 30 years of FA bought out (2-3 years of arb bought out, with only 1 reflecting anything close to his real value) if he extends or will be a 30-31 year old FA when he gets there. Whether it's as an early extension or as a FA I think KB is getting closer to $200 million than $300 million. It's why I think around a 7/200 or 8/220 extension done now or next offseason is pretty realistic and he should think real hard about taking it (if offered or something similar) vs waiting to get to FA. Again this is looking at how it actually works vs how it should work.

 

I was thinking $30M AAV for 8 years, or a $25M AAV for 10 years. So something in the $250M range.

[Bluescale]

 

where is this from?

I remember hearing or reading that too, forget where now. But him and as wife were not happy about it and how it was handled and that he was kept, allegedly.

 

I've got a friend of a friend working for Boras, and that's where I heard it from. Mostly Mrs Bryant, but it sounds like she kinda runs the show behind the scenes.

 

Does "not happy" mean they're pissed he's still around, or pissed that he's not getting even more support?

[squally1313]

I remember hearing or reading that too, forget where now. But him and as wife were not happy about it and how it was handled and that he was kept, allegedly.

 

I've got a friend of a friend working for Boras, and that's where I heard it from. Mostly Mrs Bryant, but it sounds like she kinda runs the show behind the scenes.

 

Does "not happy" mean they're pissed he's still around, or pissed that he's not getting even more support?

 

The first one. Think Mrs Bryant and Melisa Reidy were/are very close.

[imb]

 

I've got a friend of a friend working for Boras, and that's where I heard it from. Mostly Mrs Bryant, but it sounds like she kinda runs the show behind the scenes.

 

Does "not happy" mean they're pissed he's still around, or pissed that he's not getting even more support?

 

The first one. Think Mrs Bryant and Melisa Reidy were/are very close.

 

it's called "sister wives"

[ConstableRabbit]

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Man, everyone's entitled to their own opinion but Law's #hottakes crack me up. Disney has gained over $100 BILLION in market cap over Iger's tenure as CEO, largely driven by a series of deals he was responsible for. The other guys have similar stories.

 

Also no one has a $66m salary -- his salary is $2.9m. The vast majority of the guy's pay is due to performance accelerators not unlike in MLB.

 

 

/rant

[jersey cubs fan]

Also no one has a $66m salary -- his salary is $2.9m. The vast majority of the guy's pay is due to performance accelerators not unlike in MLB.

 

 

/rant

executive compensation performance metrics are ridiculously easy to achieve for even the most mediocre exec.

[ConstableRabbit]

Also no one has a $66m salary -- his salary is $2.9m. The vast majority of the guy's pay is due to performance accelerators not unlike in MLB.

 

 

/rant

executive compensation performance metrics are ridiculously easy to achieve for even the most mediocre exec.

Are... are you Bob Iger?