Cano and Diaz to Mets?

[Post Count Padder]

“Significant momentum” has built toward a deal that would send high-dollar veteran second baseman Robinson Cano and top-shelf young closer Edwin Diaz from the Mariners to the Mets, according to Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (Twitter links). Cano has reportedly not yet been asked to waive his no-trade rights, though Passan adds that is not expected to represent a significant hurdle.

[Cubswin11]

This seems like an odd move for both teams. Mariners aren’t maximizing Diaz’s return, Cano is a sunk cost sooner than later for the Mets and they’re allegedly giving up decent prospects in the deal. Instead of taking on Cano’s money why not just sign one of the FA RPs or two?

[David]

I thought this was reported this morning and then walked back?

[cl smooth]

I thought this was reported this morning and then walked back?

 

there's been about 100 variations of cano to the mets over the past 24-36 hours that include various players from both organizations. i heard one rumor this morning, a different one this afternoon and a new one about an hour ago that involved trading noah syndergaard.

[Derwood]

Cano is only owed *squints* $120 million and he's still pretty young at age *checks* 36 after coming off of *scrolls down* an 80 game PED suspension

 

What's not to love?

[Cubswin11]

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[Cubswin11]

Holy horsefeathering horsefeathers, Mets. LOL

 

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[Bertz]

Holy horsefeathering horsefeathers, Mets. LOL

 

 

If this holds up, it's basically the Vernon wells trade. You read the players involved and you're like "Okay okay this all makes sense" but you keep reading and you never find that other ~$30m the deal needs to actually be fair.

[Cubswin11]

Holy horsefeathering horsefeathers, Mets. LOL

 

 

If this holds up, it's basically the Vernon wells trade. You read the players involved and you're like "Okay okay this all makes sense" but you keep reading and you never find that other ~$30m the deal needs to actually be fair.

If the ~$30 mil is paid out to Diaz it’s because he’s worth it though. They’re essentially paying ~$80 million for Diaz and taking on Cano’s dead weight plus maybe giving up prospects. Just sign like 1-2 of Ottavino/Allen/Miller/Britton/Robertson and one of the infielder FA for likely -$60 million or less and end up in a better spot vs doing this. Because individually you’re out of all those deals sooner and none are going to sink you if they go bad. The Mets are betting huge on Diaz being insanely valuable moving forward and/or on Cano somehow being productive at an age few guys are.

[Bertz]

Holy horsefeathering horsefeathers, Mets. LOL

 

 

If this holds up, it's basically the Vernon wells trade. You read the players involved and you're like "Okay okay this all makes sense" but you keep reading and you never find that other ~$30m the deal needs to actually be fair.

If the ~$30 mil is paid out to Diaz it’s because he’s worth it though. They’re essentially paying ~$80 million for Diaz and taking on Cano’s dead weight plus maybe giving up prospects. Just sign like 1-2 of Ottavino/Allen/Miller/Britton/Robertson and one of the infielder FA for likely -$60 million or less and end up in a better spot vs doing this. Because individually you’re out of all those deals sooner and none are going to sink you if they go bad.

 

We're on the same page. I'm saying the Mets probably needed to receive an extra $30ish million in cash in the deal.

[Brian]

We're on the same page. I'm saying the Mets probably needed to receive an extra $30ish million in cash in the deal.

 

Well it looks like they are getting $60

 

edit: maybe

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

Not that I’m eager to defend the Mets here but when refering to Cano as dead weight, are we including his bat? The lowest wOBA in his 30s is .334. I think his talent is being a little bit undersold. I say ageism! Ageists!

 

Yeah, good thing he's going to a team with a DH so he can age gracef-WHOOPS.

[Clem Fandango]

Yeah, wanting to have Cano on your team still makes sense from a production standpoint. The money thing is weird especially considering there were rumors the Mets were entertaining offers for Syndergaard and others, if I recall. If they were on the brink of a sell-off this doesn't seem to signal that and is a weird direction to take by absorbing a ton of cash onto their payroll. If you're gonna spend that much there are probably better options out there than taking on the salary of a guy who, while good, probably isn't meeting the expectations his salary would suggest.

 

Diaz is the real get here. I'm actually really pissed they up and got him because I know Seattle was doing a sell-off but they didn't really have an incentive to move Diaz since he was still under team control through 2022 and wasn't hitting arbitration until 2020. If Diaz was a known available commodity I can't imagine other teams weren't in on him and I can't believe this is the best deal that they needed him to be in. He was worth 3.5 fWAR this year. That would've been the 3rd best fWAR on the entire Cubs roster this season. And he's a reliever. That's horsefeathering insane. Every team in baseball should've been in on him if the M's were making him available.

[SouthSideRyan]

Not that I’m eager to defend the Mets here but when refering to Cano as dead weight, are we including his bat? The lowest wOBA in his 30s is .334. I think his talent is being a little bit undersold. I say ageism! Ageists!

 

And I know he's getting old, but he was a perfectly cromulent defender at 2B last year.

[Cubswin11]

 

[Post Count Padder]

It’ll be Cano, Diaz and $20MM for Bruce, Swarzak, Kelenic, Dunn and Bautista, Heyman tweets. The trade will save the Mariners approximately $64MM

 

I still can't decide who this trade works out better for. The Mariners shed Cano's contract and get some decent prospects but also waste Diaz's full trade potential. The Mets get an elite reliever but are now stuck with a bad contract. And they probably won't be that good during Diaz's cheaper years.

[imb]

oh it definitely favors the mariners

[Cubswin11]

oh it definitely favors the mariners

Yeah the Mets are basically paying Diaz 5/60 plus prospect capital. They could just of signed like 2 of Ottavino, Allen, Britton, Miller and a 2B for a little more than that and then used one of those prospects to dump Bruce to someone or just kept all the prospects and spread the risk/money over multiple relievers instead of one.

[Derwood]

The Mets acting like a small market team is really annoying. I mean, I get that they've made a lot of bad signings, so the resources are tied up in terrible contracts, but still.....spend some freaking money in free agency

[imb]

The Mets acting like a small market team is really annoying. I mean, I get that they've made a lot of bad signings, so the resources are tied up in terrible contracts, but still.....spend some freaking money in free agency

 

the mets acting like a small market team (by not spending money in FA or signing FAs is really annoying)

I mean, I get that they've made a lot of bad signings (wait a sec)

so the resources are tied up in terrible contracts (that they spent in free agency)

but still ... spend some freaking money in free agency (or maybe don't ... since you have been and it didnt work out like at all)

 

also they just took on like 60 million in the cano trade

[Derwood]

The Mets acting like a small market team is really annoying. I mean, I get that they've made a lot of bad signings, so the resources are tied up in terrible contracts, but still.....spend some freaking money in free agency

 

the mets acting like a small market team (by not spending money in FA or signing FAs is really annoying)

I mean, I get that they've made a lot of bad signings (wait a sec)

so the resources are tied up in terrible contracts (that they spent in free agency)

but still ... spend some freaking money in free agency (or maybe don't ... since you have been and it didnt work out like at all)

 

also they just took on like 60 million in the cano trade

 

See, this guy gets it

[Southpaw19]

I don't know why, but I'm really disappointed the Cubs didn't go after Diaz. I know we don't have prospects to trade, but this is why guys off the main roster could have been packaged with some mid-level prospects to get a quality closer like Diaz.

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I don't know why, but I'm really disappointed the Cubs didn't go after Diaz. I know we don't have prospects to trade, but this is why guys off the main roster could have been packaged with some mid-level prospects to get a quality closer like Diaz.

 

 

nobody is going to trade an awesome player for stiffs like albert almora and ian happ