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8/5: fodders (lucabrassiswimswiththefishes) @ Cubs (Lester) 1:20 WGN

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Sammy Sofa GOAT

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Quintana has maintained a steady 1.4+ WHIP all year to go along with the following monthly FIP/xFIP #'s:

 

4.25/4.33

4.66/4.33

4.72/4.26

5.21/5.31(!!!!)

 

I do not get the idea that he's been decent since May, or solid all year. He's been decidedly mediocre all season. Yeah, his ONE start so far in August was good, but come on.

Hairyducked Idiot All-Star

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I may be having a little fun going over the top with the doom boner I haven’t been able to break out in years, but the denialism about how bad the starting pitching is gets to be pretty hilarious.

It is and has been bad but Hendricks has looked really like his old self for quite a few starts now so idk what to tell you about there but he looks encouraging, Q is solid and has been mostly solid all year and Darvish seems well on his way back, Lester was due for major regression and hopefully that get sorted out soon and he turns it back around and Hamels is doing enough interesting things outside of that stupid park in Texas to think he’s going to be good.

 

It’s the flailing cherry picking that gets me. Use “looks” for one guy, not-terrible ERA for another, appeal to regression for a third, and the vague “interesting things” for the fourth.

 

You’re not evaluating them, you’re looking for reasons to forgive them.

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Aaron_Kennelly South Bend Cubs

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I may be having a little fun going over the top with the doom boner I haven’t been able to break out in years, but the denialism about how bad the starting pitching is gets to be pretty hilarious.

It is and has been bad but Hendricks has looked really like his old self for quite a few starts now so idk what to tell you about there but he looks encouraging, Q is solid and has been mostly solid all year and Darvish seems well on his way back, Lester was due for major regression and hopefully that get sorted out soon and he turns it back around and Hamels is doing enough interesting things outside of that stupid park in Texas to think he’s going to be good.

 

It’s the flailing cherry picking that gets me. Use “looks” for one guy, not-terrible ERA for another, appeal to regression for a third, and the vague “interesting things” for the fourth.

 

You’re not evaluating them, you’re looking for reasons to forgive them.

 

Fine. The pitching is bad and will still bad and the Cubs will stay the best team in the NL.

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It is and has been bad but Hendricks has looked really like his old self for quite a few starts now so idk what to tell you about there but he looks encouraging, Q is solid and has been mostly solid all year and Darvish seems well on his way back, Lester was due for major regression and hopefully that get sorted out soon and he turns it back around and Hamels is doing enough interesting things outside of that stupid park in Texas to think he’s going to be good.

 

It’s the flailing cherry picking that gets me. Use “looks” for one guy, not-terrible ERA for another, appeal to regression for a third, and the vague “interesting things” for the fourth.

 

You’re not evaluating them, you’re looking for reasons to forgive them.

 

Fine. The pitching is bad and will still bad and the Cubs will stay the best team in the NL.

 

The Dodgers project to be better from here on out, at least according to Fangraphs.

Aaron_Kennelly South Bend Cubs

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Quintana has maintained a steady 1.4+ WHIP all year to go along with the following monthly FIP/xFIP #'s:

 

4.25/4.33

4.66/4.33

4.72/4.26

5.21/5.31(!!!!)

 

I do not get the idea that he's been decent since May, or solid all year. He's been decidedly mediocre all season. Yeah, his ONE start so far in August was good, but come on.

 

Yeah, I'm not arguing he's been good or anything. Whatever word you want to use. I said decent. You said mediocre. We can go with that. I think he's good enough to give us 5 innings and keep us in a game in October. (And I think he can get better, since he's been better his whole career.)

 

Mainly, he hasn't been hit as hard since around mid-May and the results (ERA) have been better. His exit velocity numbers and batted ball data looked really bad at the start of the year. Since then, it's mostly been the walks, which have stayed around all year. Not forgiving the walks, because they are bad, but he can survive with our defense if he isn't getting hit hard.

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