5/26 cobs (jose) vs giants (stratton) 6:15 FOX

[nobull]

I've always backed Joe, and think he's definitely got that hidden value over 162 games.

 

But jesus tapdancing horsefeathers has he been dumb lately with how he's handled the pitching staff.

Joe has always sucked with handling pitching.

[17 Seconds]

#wearegood

 

#VRD

 

#VauntedBrewerssuck

 

accept the fact that they're better and it will become easier

 

actually that doesn't make it easier at all. why the horsefeathers is cubs baseball so sad these days

 

God are we going to horsefeathering do this horsefeathers on here 2 years in a row? It’s like I’ve gone back in time to July 2017. It’s horsefeathering May still, slow your damn roll.

 

Maybe it will turn out different but this team has played like a 90 win team in the first halves under Joe and 109 win team in second halves. This happens every horsefeathering year except 2016 and yet many can’t just chill out and enjoy the greatest run of Cubs baseball in pretty much forever.

 

yeah we all know they're likely to be good and they have a good roster and stuff, but at this point the constant assumption that they'll go on some big run just because it's worked out that way in the past feels like false confidence in the way it's talked about. we all know that what you said is likely to be true, yet it feels lie you're trying to convince yourself of it as much as you're trying to convince me.

[UMFan83]

 

accept the fact that they're better and it will become easier

 

actually that doesn't make it easier at all. why the horsefeathers is cubs baseball so sad these days

 

God are we going to horsefeathering do this horsefeathers on here 2 years in a row? It’s like I’ve gone back in time to July 2017. It’s horsefeathering May still, slow your damn roll.

 

Maybe it will turn out different but this team has played like a 90 win team in the first halves under Joe and 109 win team in second halves. This happens every horsefeathering year except 2016 and yet many can’t just chill out and enjoy the greatest run of Cubs baseball in pretty much forever.

 

yeah we all know they're likely to be good and they have a good roster and stuff, but at this point the constant assumption that they'll go on some big run just because it's worked out that way in the past feels like false confidence in the way it's talked about. we all know that what you said is likely to be true, yet it feels lie you're trying to convince yourself of it as much as you're trying to convince me.

 

Not really. The Cubs could end up falling short at the end of the day. But because they’ve been a really really good baseball team for the last 3+ years they deserve the benefit of the doubt. No one needs to freak out before Memorial Day because they are 4.5 games out of first (and only 2 in the loss column) much less 1 game out of a playoff spot.

[17 Seconds]

 

God are we going to horsefeathering do this horsefeathers on here 2 years in a row? It’s like I’ve gone back in time to July 2017. It’s horsefeathering May still, slow your damn roll.

 

Maybe it will turn out different but this team has played like a 90 win team in the first halves under Joe and 109 win team in second halves. This happens every horsefeathering year except 2016 and yet many can’t just chill out and enjoy the greatest run of Cubs baseball in pretty much forever.

 

yeah we all know they're likely to be good and they have a good roster and stuff, but at this point the constant assumption that they'll go on some big run just because it's worked out that way in the past feels like false confidence in the way it's talked about. we all know that what you said is likely to be true, yet it feels lie you're trying to convince yourself of it as much as you're trying to convince me.

 

Not really. The Cubs could end up falling short at the end of the day. But because they’ve been a really really good baseball team for the last 3+ years they deserve the benefit of the doubt. No one needs to freak out before Memorial Day because they are 4.5 games out of first (and only 2 in the loss column) much less 1 game out of a playoff spot.

 

saying anything other than "the cubs will obviously win 90+ games and the brewers are 100% trash" is seen as freaking out. the "it's only _____" thing just becomes annoying at a certain point, because it has a way of always being pushed back. plus, injuries happen, and we might be seeing with darvish. they need to be winning games and not assuming they'll come later, because it not happening would be far from the weirdest thing to happen in baseball this year.

[Cubswin11]

They kinda are winning games though...... it’s not like they are under .500

 

The team above us in the division is playing as best they possibly can and we aren’t playing all that great and are only a few back. This is about as bad as it gets and it’s still basically a playoff lock team

[17 Seconds]

They kinda are winning games though...... it’s not like they are under .500

 

The team above us in the division is playing as best they possibly can and we aren’t playing all that great and are only a few back. This is about as bad as it gets and it’s still basically a playoff lock team

 

they're finishing up the easiest part of the schedule right now, so i don't know how you can assume this.

[Cubswin11]

They kinda are winning games though...... it’s not like they are under .500

 

The team above us in the division is playing as best they possibly can and we aren’t playing all that great and are only a few back. This is about as bad as it gets and it’s still basically a playoff lock team

 

they're finishing up the easiest part of the schedule right now, so i don't know how you can assume this.

And they’re playing over .500 on it???

[UMFan83]

 

yeah we all know they're likely to be good and they have a good roster and stuff, but at this point the constant assumption that they'll go on some big run just because it's worked out that way in the past feels like false confidence in the way it's talked about. we all know that what you said is likely to be true, yet it feels lie you're trying to convince yourself of it as much as you're trying to convince me.

 

Not really. The Cubs could end up falling short at the end of the day. But because they’ve been a really really good baseball team for the last 3+ years they deserve the benefit of the doubt. No one needs to freak out before Memorial Day because they are 4.5 games out of first (and only 2 in the loss column) much less 1 game out of a playoff spot.

 

saying anything other than "the cubs will obviously win 90+ games and the brewers are 100% trash" is seen as freaking out. the "it's only _____" thing just becomes annoying at a certain point, because it has a way of always being pushed back. plus, injuries happen, and we might be seeing with darvish. they need to be winning games and not assuming they'll come later, because it not happening would be far from the weirdest thing to happen in baseball this year.

 

No you’re right keep being overly worried about a team playing at an 88 win pace for the season while statistically looking like a 95+ win team. Yeah the Darvish injury is concerning but let’s not act like you just starting being concerned today.

 

All I’m saying is like maybe enjoy baseball for a little while.

[17 Seconds]

They kinda are winning games though...... it’s not like they are under .500

 

The team above us in the division is playing as best they possibly can and we aren’t playing all that great and are only a few back. This is about as bad as it gets and it’s still basically a playoff lock team

 

they're finishing up the easiest part of the schedule right now, so i don't know how you can assume this.

And they’re playing over .500 on it???

 

i don't even know what you're arguing here.

 

this argument about whether or not the cubs will be good never ends, party because i can't help myself, and partly because they continue to not be where they should be. the fact that they're on pace for 88 wins does not mean they haven't been disappointing and frustrating to watch for 2 months.

[UMFan83]

They kinda are winning games though...... it’s not like they are under .500

 

The team above us in the division is playing as best they possibly can and we aren’t playing all that great and are only a few back. This is about as bad as it gets and it’s still basically a playoff lock team

 

they're finishing up the easiest part of the schedule right now, so i don't know how you can assume this.

 

They’ve played a harder schedule than everyone else in the central except the Reds

[17 Seconds]

 

Not really. The Cubs could end up falling short at the end of the day. But because they’ve been a really really good baseball team for the last 3+ years they deserve the benefit of the doubt. No one needs to freak out before Memorial Day because they are 4.5 games out of first (and only 2 in the loss column) much less 1 game out of a playoff spot.

 

saying anything other than "the cubs will obviously win 90+ games and the brewers are 100% trash" is seen as freaking out. the "it's only _____" thing just becomes annoying at a certain point, because it has a way of always being pushed back. plus, injuries happen, and we might be seeing with darvish. they need to be winning games and not assuming they'll come later, because it not happening would be far from the weirdest thing to happen in baseball this year.

 

No you’re right keep being overly worried about a team playing at an 88 win pace for the season while statistically looking like a 95+ win team. Yeah the Darvish injury is concerning but let’s not act like you just starting being concerned today.

 

All I’m saying is like maybe enjoy baseball for a little while.

 

the run differential stuff got old a long time ago. we know they're super talented and should be better than they are. and stop pretending like you're enjoying baseball this year. you can admit that it's been a bummer.

[17 Seconds]

They kinda are winning games though...... it’s not like they are under .500

 

The team above us in the division is playing as best they possibly can and we aren’t playing all that great and are only a few back. This is about as bad as it gets and it’s still basically a playoff lock team

 

they're finishing up the easiest part of the schedule right now, so i don't know how you can assume this.

 

They’ve played a harder schedule than everyone else in the central except the Reds

 

look at who they've played in recent weeks and then look at who they have coming up. it's like we're simultaneously saying the cardinals and brewers suck while also saying our schedule has been tough because we've played them a lot.

[Cubswin11]

 

they're finishing up the easiest part of the schedule right now, so i don't know how you can assume this.

 

They’ve played a harder schedule than everyone else in the central except the Reds

 

look at who they've played in recent weeks and then look at who they have coming up. it's like we're simultaneously saying the cardinals and brewers suck while also saying our schedule has been tough because we've played them a lot.

They are over .500 “in recent weeks” however you want to define or put end points on so idk what you’re trying to say. They went like 7 or 8 of 10 vs the Reds, Marlins and White Sox. That’s all you can reasonably expect and even more than that. They have a chance to win a series tomorrow vs an okay team and the Cardinals and Brewers both do kinda suck.

[UMFan83]

 

saying anything other than "the cubs will obviously win 90+ games and the brewers are 100% trash" is seen as freaking out. the "it's only _____" thing just becomes annoying at a certain point, because it has a way of always being pushed back. plus, injuries happen, and we might be seeing with darvish. they need to be winning games and not assuming they'll come later, because it not happening would be far from the weirdest thing to happen in baseball this year.

 

No you’re right keep being overly worried about a team playing at an 88 win pace for the season while statistically looking like a 95+ win team. Yeah the Darvish injury is concerning but let’s not act like you just starting being concerned today.

 

All I’m saying is like maybe enjoy baseball for a little while.

 

the run differential stuff got old a long time ago. we know they're super talented and should be better than they are. and stop pretending like you're enjoying baseball this year. you can admit that it's been a bummer.

 

Lol like all of your replies are you presuming I am thinking the same ridiculously negative horsefeathers as you. I’m done...you my friend are being ridiculous

[CaliforniaRaisin]

#wearegood

 

#VRD

 

#VauntedBrewerssuck

 

accept the fact that they're better and it will become easier

 

actually that doesn't make it easier at all. why the horsefeathers is cubs baseball so sad these days

 

God are we going to horsefeathering do this horsefeathers on here 2 years in a row? It’s like I’ve gone back in time to July 2017. It’s horsefeathering May still, slow your damn roll.

 

Maybe it will turn out different but this team has played like a 90 win team in the first halves under Joe and 109 win team in second halves. This happens every horsefeathering year except 2016 and yet many can’t just chill out and enjoy the greatest run of Cubs baseball in pretty much forever.

 

3 out of the last 4 years.*

 

The Cubs were out of a playoff spot until the 4-game series against the Giants in 2015.

 

ETA: I hate when I think I'm responding to the last post in a thread and then realize there's been a full page after the post I responded to.

[soccer10k]

 

Not really. The Cubs could end up falling short at the end of the day. But because they’ve been a really really good baseball team for the last 3+ years they deserve the benefit of the doubt. No one needs to freak out before Memorial Day because they are 4.5 games out of first (and only 2 in the loss column) much less 1 game out of a playoff spot.

 

saying anything other than "the cubs will obviously win 90+ games and the brewers are 100% trash" is seen as freaking out. the "it's only _____" thing just becomes annoying at a certain point, because it has a way of always being pushed back. plus, injuries happen, and we might be seeing with darvish. they need to be winning games and not assuming they'll come later, because it not happening would be far from the weirdest thing to happen in baseball this year.

 

No you’re right keep being overly worried about a team playing at an 88 win pace for the season while statistically looking like a 95+ win team. Yeah the Darvish injury is concerning but let’s not act like you just starting being concerned today.

 

All I’m saying is like maybe enjoy baseball for a little while.

 

And regarding Darvish, if we're just looking at this year and ignoring the long term issues with him maybe having another Tommy John, we've been an 88 win team and he's been crap. So based just on what he's done this year so far, it's not like we're losing much from that 88 win team. I get that we all expected more from and and if healthy, he'd probably be much better than the 4.95 ERA he's put up so far. It's not like we're an 88 win team and we just lost Jake at his 2015 apex. So if Darvish is out for the year and Monty comes in and puts up a 4 ERA, that's an upgrade on what Darvish has been in 2018.

[r_mack]

At least our minor league system did well today. Jeimer Candelario hit 2 homers, Christian Villanueva hit 2 homers, and Eloy Jimenez hit a grand slam

[Bryants Disco Ball]

At least our minor league system did well today. Jeimer Candelario hit 2 homers, Christian Villanueva hit 2 homers, and Eloy Jimenez hit a grand slam

 

This sucks. You are like reality TV before people knew it was scripted. Now that I know you’re an actor, this just isn’t fun.

[cubsclapp]

At least our minor league system did well today. Jeimer Candelario hit 2 homers, Christian Villanueva hit 2 homers, and Eloy Jimenez hit a grand slam

 

It's a real shame the Cubs went with an NL MVP over two fringe prospects at third base.

[cubsclapp]

I've always backed Joe, and think he's definitely got that hidden value over 162 games.

 

But jesus tapdancing horsefeathers has he been dumb lately with how he's handled the pitching staff.

Joe has always sucked with handling pitching.

 

Oh I agree it's been a weakness of his forever, but it's been taken to another level lately.

 

Pulling Strop last night with one out remaining up four runs (and then pulling Duensing after one batter, forcing Morrow to enter a game he shouldn't have to).

 

Pulling Quintana tonight after like 2 balls were hit hard all night; he'd only thrown 83 pitches; tomorrow night is Chatwood (which may be a 3-inning outing with how he's been lately); TBD on Monday or Tuesday. You may really need the bullpen the next few days, and pulling Quintana tonight probably didn't even actually help their chances of winning.

 

He's always been an overmanager when it comes to the bullpen and sometimes is too quick on his hook with starters, but lately it seems much worse. I think part of it is the overall team's struggles (particularly with the rotation) and he's panicking (something we've seen him do in the playoffs when he doesn't trust pitchers as much as he perhaps should).