5/19/18 CLORBS (Hendricks) @ The Old Shitty Spaghetti Factory (Castillo) 12:10 CST WGN

[Transmogrified Tiger]

maddon horsefeathering sucks at bullpening

 

what in the world

 

you liked taking cishek out after two (2) pitches with his spot due up first in the 12th in favor of wilson? I did not.

 

I think managing extra innings in the first game of a double header, especially when your 2 best relievers probably aren't able to pitch in both games, is full of no-win decisions. He had a quick hook with his rubber armed guys(Duensing, Cishek, Strop) to make sure Game 2 isn't a disaster, and Wilson got burned by a combination of bad luck and bad control. I don't think Cishek facing a parade of LH hitters (with Duvall sprinkled in) is that advantageous a situation, especially when Game 2 will feature a RH heavy lineup against Quintana that would make more sense to use Cishek in.

[Schwarber Fan]

It was just an overall stupid game. Leaving guys on base every inning, Hendricks pitching well until we finally tie it, Rizzo finally gets a clutch hit and no one can hit career minor leashed Dylan Floro long enough for Wilson to remember he sucks. We desperately need vintage Q tonight.

[abuck1220]

what would make game 2 a “disaster?” The worst thing that could happen is that they lose...which they just did in game 1.

 

knowing the cubs, game 2 will either be a 10-3 win or a 10-3 loss. And if not, and a situation comes up where boy oh boy you’d really like to use Cishek but shoot he threw 1 1/3 in game 1, then I guess you just use Justin Wilson which is what you just did in game 1 so what’s the horsefeathering difference.

[17 Seconds]

i see maddon learned nothing from his game 7 mistakes

[Cubswin11]

what would make game 2 a “disaster?” The worst thing that could happen is that they lose...which they just did in game 1.

 

knowing the cubs, game 2 will either be a 10-3 win or a 10-3 loss. And if not, and a situation comes up where boy oh boy you’d really like to use Cishek but shoot he threw 1 1/3 in game 1, then I guess you just use Justin Wilson which is what you just did in game 1 so what’s the horsefeathering difference.

Even if they lost it wouldn’t be a disaster as it wouldn’t really change things but it would be frustrating as hell

[Transmogrified Tiger]

what would make game 2 a “disaster?” The worst thing that could happen is that they lose...which they just did in game 1.

 

knowing the cubs, game 2 will either be a 10-3 win or a 10-3 loss. And if not, and a situation comes up where boy oh boy you’d really like to use Cishek but shoot he threw 1 1/3 in game 1, then I guess you just use Justin Wilson which is what you just did in game 1 so what’s the horsefeathering difference.

 

Literally running out of usable pitchers in a winnable game is the thing you're trying to avoid for Game 2. The Reds had a sea of lefties due up, lefties have a .273/.467/.455 line against Cishek this year, which makes sense because he doesn't throw hard and his sidearm spiel isn't going to make a huge difference. Quintana is going in Game 2 so you know it's more likely that you have a greater chance to have Cishek face several RH in a row then. Wilson before today had 8 straight outings without signs of trouble, and lefties are hitting .125/.276/.292 against him this year. If you would've done it differently or weighted different factors that's fine, but the idea that going to Wilson instead of letting Cishek pitch the 11th is a sign that Maddon is drunk at the wheel is silly. If anything, I would've just not bothered with Cishek to get the last out in the 10th, but that worked fine and the game was over before it burned them.

[Sammy Sofa]

Most of Wilson's numbers are just as bad as last year, or worse. Using him has been a risk all season regardless of the sample size of the end result of his last few outings.

[Gilby]

Putting in Rosario literally kept us in that game. The odds of Hendricks replicating Rosario's performance in that 2nd and 3rd no outs situation is very low.

[Cubswin11]

Most of Wilson's numbers are just as bad as last year, or worse. Using him has been a risk all season regardless of the sample size of the end result of his last few outings.

The only way to rationalize that trade at this point is they were worried Willy’s hamstring was fucked and thought he’d be done for the year and needed Avila and Wilson was a throw in.

 

But in reality we bought in to a shitty pitchers surface stats holding up and they’ve cratered

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Putting in Rosario literally kept us in that game. The odds of Hendricks replicating Rosario's performance in that 2nd and 3rd no outs situation is very low.

 

That is fine, but at some point, Maddon is going to have to let a starter go longer when they’re not [expletive] the bed because the Cubs don’t have the prospect cache to replace the entire bullpen in the second half.