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It’s not me, it’s Yu

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78:3 K:BB in July and August combined.

It's really surpring to me that he's only the 30th best pitcher in terms of fWAR in that stretch, at 1.1. Quintana is 13th at 1.7. Verlander is the one that is most confusing. I get all the home runs, but look at these two lines.

 

Darvish: 62 IP, 11.32 K/9, 0.44 BB/9, 1.89 HR/9, .246 BABIP, 44.2% GB%, 23.6% HR/FB, 3.19/3.85/2.89 1.1 fWAR

Verlander: 64.1 IP, 13.4 K/93, 1.12 BB/9, 1.40 HR/9, .268 BABIP, 32.9% GB%, 14.9% HR/FB, 2.38/2.71/2.76, 2.3 fWAR

 

Verlander is better, but over twice as good?

 

It's because fangraphs uses absolute dongs to weight FIP in their WAR calculation, and the weight is (13 * dong). So over that span Yu has 3 more dongs allowed than Verlander (13 vs 10), which gets 'disproportionately' weighted by 13, jacking up Yu's FIP to 3.85 compared to Verlanders 2.71

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78:3 K:BB in July and August combined.

It's really surpring to me that he's only the 30th best pitcher in terms of fWAR in that stretch, at 1.1. Quintana is 13th at 1.7. Verlander is the one that is most confusing. I get all the home runs, but look at these two lines.

 

Darvish: 62 IP, 11.32 K/9, 0.44 BB/9, 1.89 HR/9, .246 BABIP, 44.2% GB%, 23.6% HR/FB, 3.19/3.85/2.89 1.1 fWAR

Verlander: 64.1 IP, 13.4 K/93, 1.12 BB/9, 1.40 HR/9, .268 BABIP, 32.9% GB%, 14.9% HR/FB, 2.38/2.71/2.76, 2.3 fWAR

 

Verlander is better, but over twice as good?

 

It's 1000% the dongs. fWAR is basically FIP times batters faced times some constant. By xFIP, Yu's basically as good as ever right now, but by FIP he's still fairly middling because of the dongs.

 

I generally am a big xFIP guy unless a guy has years of over/underperforming it, but Yu's doing weird enough stuff right now that I'm not super confident in that belief.

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https://blogs.fangraphs.com/yu-darvishs-futile-heroics/

 

In another universe, Sunday might have been Darvish’s crowning moment. Somewhere, Almora caught Martinez’s line drive and Edman’s flare was hit ever so slightly differently, leading to a routine fly out. Somewhere, he went the full nine, and his magisterial complete game on the back of two Craig Kimbrel saves sank the Cardinals. Somewhere, Darvish’s tremendous second half put the team on his back and led them to the playoffs, giving him another chance to exorcise the demons of 2017. But not here. Here, Darvish could only slam his cleats into his locker and brood.

 

Afterward, Darvish trashed his locker. He called the loss the worst of his life, still visibly upset as he gave postgame interviews. In truth, Chicago’s season was doomed before the game even started, but try telling that to the pitcher who spent three hours attempting to will his team to victory, even as it crumbled around him.
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In another universe, Sunday might have been Darvish’s crowning moment. Somewhere, Almora caught Martinez’s line drive and Edman’s flare was hit ever so slightly differently, leading to a routine fly out. Somewhere, he went the full nine, and his magisterial complete game on the back of two Craig Kimbrel saves sank the Cardinals. Somewhere, Darvish’s tremendous second half put the team on his back and led them to the playoffs, giving him another chance to exorcise the demons of 2017. But not here. Here, Darvish could only slam his cleats into his locker and brood.

 

Afterward, Darvish trashed his locker. He called the loss the worst of his life, still visibly upset as he gave postgame interviews. In truth, Chicago’s season was doomed before the game even started, but try telling that to the pitcher who spent three hours attempting to will his team to victory, even as it crumbled around him.

Almora’s greatest failure this year was making Yu sad and mad.

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In another universe, Sunday might have been Darvish’s crowning moment. Somewhere, Almora caught Martinez’s line drive and Edman’s flare was hit ever so slightly differently, leading to a routine fly out. Somewhere, he went the full nine, and his magisterial complete game on the back of two Craig Kimbrel saves sank the Cardinals. Somewhere, Darvish’s tremendous second half put the team on his back and led them to the playoffs, giving him another chance to exorcise the demons of 2017. But not here. Here, Darvish could only slam his cleats into his locker and brood.

 

Afterward, Darvish trashed his locker. He called the loss the worst of his life, still visibly upset as he gave postgame interviews. In truth, Chicago’s season was doomed before the game even started, but try telling that to the pitcher who spent three hours attempting to will his team to victory, even as it crumbled around him.

Almora’s greatest failure this year was making Yu sad and mad.

Yep. I'm probably the biggest Yu fan and the biggest Almora hater on this board, but, again, horsefeathers Albert Almora.

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