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Counterpoint: Maddon is barreling into old coot-dom faster than a drunk passed out behind the wheel of an out of control RV.

 

he kind of sucks but i can't put him on matheny's level just yet

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Counterpoint: Maddon is barreling into old coot-dom faster than a drunk passed out behind the wheel of an out of control RV.

 

he kind of sucks but i can't put him on matheny's level just yet

 

Oh, I wasn't talking about his baseball decisions at all.

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Counterpoint: Maddon is barreling into old coot-dom faster than a drunk passed out behind the wheel of an out of control RV.

 

he kind of sucks but i can't put him on matheny's level just yet

 

Oh, I wasn't talking about his baseball decisions at all.

 

 

I dont think 17 seconds was either

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Nightengale's defense of Dusty is really weirdly obsessive. That guy is such a jock sniffing moron.

 

a ton of the baseball media guys are carrying his water on twitter.

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Counterpoint: Maddon is barreling into old coot-dom faster than a drunk passed out behind the wheel of an out of control RV.

 

he kind of sucks but i can't put him on matheny's level just yet

 

Oh, I wasn't talking about his baseball decisions at all.

 

it was a cardinals are drunks joke

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he kind of sucks but i can't put him on matheny's level just yet

 

Oh, I wasn't talking about his baseball decisions at all.

 

it was a cardinals are drunks joke

 

I am genuinely sorry I didn't realize that.

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I'm not a Dusty fan, but the one thing to be said is he brought some stability and consistency to the Nationals. By all accounts, Matt Williams wasn't good, and Dusty did bring some stability there while showing some attempts to modernize. All that said, there aren't many GM's left that are liable to hire not only an old guy, but an old-school guy like Dusty, so he's pretty much done. He was pretty much a fall-back for the Nationals a couple years ago (who was it, Wally Backman?). Dusty stabilized things there, particularly early this season when the bullpen was a mess. He really didn't do anything egregiously bad there.

 

Next manager there is walking into a great situation, albeit a high pressure situation with the impending Harper drama. With Adam Eaton coming back and Victor Robles likely getting a look soon, that's such a young and dynamic positional core (Turner/Robles/Eaton/Harper/Rendon) to go with veterans like Murphy/Zimmerman. They need to find a way to dump Wieters, but they won't be able to. There was chatter of interest in Alex Cora, but he's gone, so I'm not sure where they go. Rizzo tends to hire old-school-ish people, and this firing seemed to come from ownership, so it'll be interesting.

 

As a side note, for all the Harper drama, if the Red Sox spend big this off-season, and the Yankees continue their youth movement and decide against giving monstrous contracts ... there might not be as much Harper drama as one might think. After all, Boras is superbly close to the Lerner group (I mean, you can chalk the Scherzer contract up as top talent, but getting a team to give out money for Wieters?) I'm sure other teams will step to the forefront and offer huge contracts, but it's just hard for me to see the Nationals getting over-bid on that one.

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I'm not a Dusty fan, but the one thing to be said is he brought some stability and consistency to the Nationals. By all accounts, Matt Williams wasn't good, and Dusty did bring some stability there while showing some attempts to modernize. All that said, there aren't many GM's left that are liable to hire not only an old guy, but an old-school guy like Dusty, so he's pretty much done. He was pretty much a fall-back for the Nationals a couple years ago (who was it, Wally Backman?). Dusty stabilized things there, particularly early this season when the bullpen was a mess. He really didn't do anything egregiously bad there.

 

These are table stakes for being a manager, doing them isn't worthy of credit and praise, but to avoid being fired mid-season.

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He was pretty much a fall-back for the Nationals a couple years ago (who was it, Wally Backman?).

 

Bud Black, no?

 

yup

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I'm not a Dusty fan, but the one thing to be said is he brought some stability and consistency to the Nationals. By all accounts, Matt Williams wasn't good, and Dusty did bring some stability there while showing some attempts to modernize. All that said, there aren't many GM's left that are liable to hire not only an old guy, but an old-school guy like Dusty, so he's pretty much done. He was pretty much a fall-back for the Nationals a couple years ago (who was it, Wally Backman?). Dusty stabilized things there, particularly early this season when the bullpen was a mess. He really didn't do anything egregiously bad there.

 

These are table stakes for being a manager, doing them isn't worthy of credit and praise, but to avoid being fired mid-season.

 

also, i'm not sure if pitcher abuse points are seen as completely irrelevant or not by now, but iirc the nationals still had 4 of the top 15 this year.

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This is an extremely weak year for managerial candidates, I expect Martinez to finally make the jump.

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I have no idea what value Martinez provides but everyone says hes awesome so I hope we keep him.

he keeps sandberg's ego in check

and blood pressure up

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