Bears game 6: Joey Elite vs. Elite Rushing game 10/15 at Noon on Fox

[Guest]

Thank God for our elite running game.

[minnesotacubsfan]

CONGRATES TO THE CHICAGO BEARS ON BEATING YOUR OPPONENT JOHN FOX

[David]

I honestly didn't think Fox would have me smiling longingly at Lovie.

 

I did. It was still dumb to get rid of him.

 

nah.

[David]

i think john fox legitimately believes he's coaching tebow again

 

this is what those games looked like

[minnesotacubsfan]

Do Bears fans have legit hopes for Trubisky?

 

Yes

 

Caveat: we need a new coach and wr’s

[mul21]

Do Bears fans have legit hopes for Trubisky?

 

Yeah, the escape and throw on 3rd and 11 is a flash of what could be. Mobile, good vision, and a strong as hell arm to make that throw without his feet underneath him.

[Guest]

Yeah, Bears need an OC as HC, no Toub, no DC.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Do Bears fans have legit hopes for Trubisky?

Absolutely. You have to remember today was his 15th game since HS, the Ravens are a very good team vs the pass, and we have him running about 8 total play types with receivers who are 2nd and 3rd stringers on just about every other team. I thought he left several plays on the field today, though, and was not his usual accurate self.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Yeah, the escape and throw on 3rd and 11 is a flash of what could be. Mobile, good vision, and a strong as hell arm to make that throw without his feet underneath him.

 

Yes

 

Caveat: we need a new coach and wr’s

 

I was already a non-believer because of the whole one year starter thing, but just from a distance it seems like he sucks. I hated the trade up.

 

Hes very raw and you see that on his scrabbles where he flings it across the field. Thing is, when he does that he still hits his receivers on the hands. Hes got talent

[davell]

Trubisky has plenty of talent to become an elite QB. He needs a completely new group of receivers and a new coaching staff.

 

Adding those things won't guarantee him becoming great obviously, but he's flashed enough skills to where he's got the chance anyway, with proper development.

 

Honestly, its about all you can ask for, when taking a QB and not having those things in place around him.

[David]

i think the fact that he didn't try to force anything today is impressive in its own right

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, the escape and throw on 3rd and 11 is a flash of what could be. Mobile, good vision, and a strong as hell arm to make that throw without his feet underneath him.

 

Yes

 

Caveat: we need a new coach and wr’s

 

I was already a non-believer because of the whole one year starter thing, but just from a distance it seems like he sucks. I hated the trade up.

I've had doubts but this is wierd. He's been as good as we could hope with talent around him.

[mul21]

i think the fact that he didn't try to force anything today is impressive in its own right

 

Yeah, even the pick last week wasn't that bad. He took a calculated risk and didn't quite put the ball where he wanted. He's certainly not afraid to try to make a play and he's got the skills to do it in a lot of cases. The quality of the running game is certainly making his life easier than it would be if he didn't have it combined with the awful receivers.

[David]

Yeah, the escape and throw on 3rd and 11 is a flash of what could be. Mobile, good vision, and a strong as hell arm to make that throw without his feet underneath him.

 

Yes

 

Caveat: we need a new coach and wr’s

 

I was already a non-believer because of the whole one year starter thing, but just from a distance it seems like he sucks. I hated the trade up.

I've had doubts but this is wierd. He's been as good as we could hope with talent around him.

 

my guess is he hasn't seen much beyond stat sheets. he's not a bears fan.

[Guest]

Yeah, the escape and throw on 3rd and 11 is a flash of what could be. Mobile, good vision, and a strong as hell arm to make that throw without his feet underneath him.

 

Yes

 

Caveat: we need a new coach and wr’s

 

I was already a non-believer because of the whole one year starter thing, but just from a distance it seems like he sucks. I hated the trade up.

 

Lol, get fucked, horsefeathers

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

I was already a non-believer because of the whole one year starter thing, but just from a distance it seems like he sucks. I hated the trade up.

 

Lol, get horsefeathers, horsefeathers

 

I see the man inspired loyalty. That's a plus!

 

I'm not [expletive] on Trubisky btw. I'm a big believer in piling up college starts (and wins, PAs, completions, TDs) to be a serious NFL QB prospect. He's a really interesting case especially with the trade up. Jets fell hard for another guy with limited experience in Sanchez and are still reeling from it.

 

imagine Sanchez's scrambling ability with a strong accurate arm. in other words, better then Sanchez.

[Guest]

 

I was already a non-believer because of the whole one year starter thing, but just from a distance it seems like he sucks. I hated the trade up.

 

Lol, get horsefeathers, horsefeathers

 

I see the man inspired loyalty. That's a plus!

 

I'm not [expletive] on Trubisky btw. I'm a big believer in piling up college starts (and wins, PAs, completions, TDs) to be a serious NFL QB prospect. He's a really interesting case especially with the trade up. Jets fell hard for another guy with limited experience in Sanchez and are still reeling from it.

 

um, i said get fucked

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I don't think I'm as mad as Fox as everyone else. Your wide receivers are a complete garbage fire and your rookie QB is slow to make reads. Your only hope is to drag the game down into a time-chewing slog and hope you get the bounces. It even worked today.

 

I like what I've seen so far from Trubisky, but there's a looooong way to go. I mostly like his feet. That ability to shuffle around in the pocket and put himself in a position to throw is something a lot of scouts talked about, and it's really shown up. On the other hand, I'm not wildly impressed with his arm. It's definitely acceptable for an NFL starting QB, but it's not something that blows me away. Same for his accuracy. It's acceptable.

 

The main concern is his reads. Right now, they are way too slow. I'm glad he's willing to throw balls away when no one's open, and a lot of it is that the receivers are awful, but there were plays where people were open by NFL standards and he just didn't see them fast enough. Even his touchdown pass should have been out of his hand a second sooner, he was lucky it didn't give the defense time to close because of their confusion.

 

I'm optimistic he can improve, of course. It's a lot to expect a rookie with his experience levels to be making quick reads on NFL defenses. But if he doesn't pan out as a prospect, that will be why.

[Guest]

but don't get me wrong, your story about all the stuff you believe in is super cool

[Guest]

I don't think I'm as mad as Fox as everyone else. Your wide receivers are a complete garbage fire and your rookie QB is slow to make reads. Your only hope is to drag the game down into a time-chewing slog and hope you get the bounces. It even worked today.

 

I like what I've seen so far from Trubisky, but there's a looooong way to go. I mostly like his feet. That ability to shuffle around in the pocket and put himself in a position to throw is something a lot of scouts talked about, and it's really shown up. On the other hand, I'm not wildly impressed with his arm. It's definitely acceptable for an NFL starting QB, but it's not something that blows me away. Same for his accuracy. It's acceptable.

 

The main concern is his reads. Right now, they are way too slow. I'm glad he's willing to throw balls away when no one's open, and a lot of it is that the receivers are awful, but there were plays where people were open by NFL standards and he just didn't see them fast enough. Even his touchdown pass should have been out of his hand a second sooner, he was lucky it didn't give the defense time to close because of their confusion.

 

I'm optimistic he can improve, of course. It's a lot to expect a rookie with his experience levels to be making quick reads on NFL defenses. But if he doesn't pan out as a prospect, that will be why.

 

getting through his reads has always been considered a strength of his. at the starter level, he looks slower, but then again, how much of that is his receivers not getting open and him maybe being a bit gun-shy from last week.

 

in addition, he doesn't have Bill O'Brien coaching him and designing an offense to suit his strengths, he has Dowell Loggains.

 

I really can't believe he hasn't been given more read option stuff, he looked good when they ran it. I have a feeling, that stuff will get more and more prevalent, along with QB carries. taking sacks and turning the ball over in the pocket is concerning, but he's more of a pocket passer than a dual-threat, like Watson, he'll learn.

[Splendid Splinter]

I'm not sure if Trubisky is slow on his reads. I feel like it's more of the fact of the WRs inability to create separation and he's trying to give them more time to do so.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm not sure if Trubisky is slow on his reads. I feel like it's more of the fact of the WRs inability to create separation and he's trying to give them more time to do so.

 

I think it's *mostly* the receivers. But not all.

[raw]

 

I was already a non-believer because of the whole one year starter thing, but just from a distance it seems like he sucks. I hated the trade up.

 

Lol, get horsefeathers, horsefeathers

 

I see the man inspired loyalty. That's a plus!

 

I'm not [expletive] on Trubisky btw. I'm a big believer in piling up college starts (and wins, PAs, completions, TDs) to be a serious NFL QB prospect. He's a really interesting case especially with the trade up. Jets fell hard for another guy with limited experience in Sanchez and are still reeling from it.

 

The one year starter thing was the only issue I had with Trubisky as a prospect. But he did get in 18 other games in college, so even with an upperclassmen incumbent starter, UNC still saw enough from him as a freshman and sophomore to throw him in a bunch of games and it's not like they were all blowouts either way. But piling up college stats has never been a prerequisite for a good QB, as the college football all-time passing leaderboard is filled with terrible NFL prospects. Carson Wentz only had 40 more PAs (10 more completions) and 4 more TDs despite many more starts. Then of course, there's Cam Newton who was a 1-year starter that was an NFL MVP. Tom Brady who was back and forth on the bench in college. Matt Cassel, who like never started in college and was at least a serviceable starter in the NFL. Obviously, those guys are the exceptions to the rule, but Trubisky has all the tools (accuracy, arm strength, mobility, ability to go thru progressions) to succeed.

[jumbo]

I'm not sure if Trubisky is slow on his reads. I feel like it's more of the fact of the WRs inability to create separation and he's trying to give them more time to do so.

 

Most replays of passing plays show very little separation from anyone.

[davell]

Martavis Bryant has evidently requested to be traded from the Steelers. Get it done, Pace.