Bulls offseason

[jersey cubs fan]

Look, let me say it like this.....Because I'm VERY well aware that being that one guy going against an entire group of well informed guys who's opinions I respect, is almost always a dumb move.....

 

I hate GarPax. There's not a post on this or any other board where I say anything remotely positive about them. To me, I'll take THIS result over standing pat and getting less later. Probably adding a player that'd be hard to move in the future.

 

In my mind, its taking the right path, even if the result wasn't truly what I was hoping for, as the return. In the end, its just getting a slight jump on what was inevitable.

 

Are these idiots going to truly capitalize off this? Almost assuredly not. But, that's why I mentioned hoping they'll get fired by this time next year.

 

Again, I'm so low on them and the org, I'll admit that I'd basically have been OK with just about any movement towards rebuilding. Because I'm never one to want to stay in the middle.

taking the path to blow it up and start fresh is all well and good, but you still must maximize your returns when you're dumping and most importantly must have good decision makers treading that path.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

i still can't believe this is actually real

 

you can't make up a worse return than this

 

two horsefeathers players and a pick swap for a top 15 player on a reasonable contract

 

in my wildest don't trade jimmy nightmares i could not have come up with this

 

it's so laughably bad.

[David]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/travellegaines/status/878078236780937218[/tweet]

 

jimmy's trainer apparently

[davell]

Look, let me say it like this.....Because I'm VERY well aware that being that one guy going against an entire group of well informed guys who's opinions I respect, is almost always a dumb move.....

 

I hate GarPax. There's not a post on this or any other board where I say anything remotely positive about them. To me, I'll take THIS result over standing pat and getting less later. Probably adding a player that'd be hard to move in the future.

 

In my mind, its taking the right path, even if the result wasn't truly what I was hoping for, as the return. In the end, its just getting a slight jump on what was inevitable.

 

Are these idiots going to truly capitalize off this? Almost assuredly not. But, that's why I mentioned hoping they'll get fired by this time next year.

 

Again, I'm so low on them and the org, I'll admit that I'd basically have been OK with just about any movement towards rebuilding. Because I'm never one to want to stay in the middle.

taking the path to blow it up and start fresh is all well and good, but you still must maximize your returns when you're dumping and most importantly must have good decision makers treading that path.

 

I can't argue that obviously. But, when your team is run by morons, I think this is better than if they waited. And while I want them gone, I don't think they will be.

 

I'd love to see what the other offers were. I'd probably be mad, if I saw them. I'm so fed up with the org, that I've decided throwing poo on the wall and seeing if something sticks is better than holding tight.

 

Again, I'm on this island by myself, so I know what that means lol.

[jersey cubs fan]

[David]

so you're basically swapping activity for achievement

 

the bulls were in a much better position 4 hours ago than they are now

 

essentially you're saying you wanted them to dump off their best and extremely valuable asset at any cost just because reasons

[David]

i think this might actually be the worst trade any of my teams has ever made in my lifetime (not judged in hindsight)

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Look, let me say it like this.....Because I'm VERY well aware that being that one guy going against an entire group of well informed guys who's opinions I respect, is almost always a dumb move.....

 

I hate GarPax. There's not a post on this or any other board where I say anything remotely positive about them. To me, I'll take THIS result over standing pat and getting less later. Probably adding a player that'd be hard to move in the future.

 

In my mind, its taking the right path, even if the result wasn't truly what I was hoping for, as the return. In the end, its just getting a slight jump on what was inevitable.

 

Are these idiots going to truly capitalize off this? Almost assuredly not. But, that's why I mentioned hoping they'll get fired by this time next year.

 

Again, I'm so low on them and the org, I'll admit that I'd basically have been OK with just about any movement towards rebuilding. Because I'm never one to want to stay in the middle.

taking the path to blow it up and start fresh is all well and good, but you still must maximize your returns when you're dumping and most importantly must have good decision makers treading that path.

 

I can't argue that obviously. But, when your team is run by morons, I think this is better than if they waited. And while I want them gone, I don't think they will be.

 

I'd love to see what the other offers were. I'd probably be mad, if I saw them. I'm so fed up with the org, that I've decided throwing poo on the wall and seeing if something sticks is better than holding tight.

 

Again, I'm on this island by myself, so I know what that means lol.

 

look what garpax have done to you

[WrigleyField 22]

so you're basically swapping activity for achievement

 

the bulls were in a much better position 4 hours ago than they are now

 

essentially you're saying you wanted them to dump off their best and extremely valuable asset at any cost just because reasons

Exactly. I get some people wanted rebuild, but that had to have at least been predicated on a better package.

[davell]

so you're basically swapping activity for achievement

 

the bulls were in a much better position 4 hours ago than they are now

 

essentially you're saying you wanted them to dump off their best and extremely valuable asset at any cost just because reasons

 

This I'll actually debate, without conceding I'm auto-wrong lol.

 

We very well MAY have overvalued Jimmy. Again, my honest guess is we chose the wrong deal to accept. But, at mid season, or after the season, I honestly doubt we'd have received THIS much. And I'm OK with moving him now, instead of another middling, at best year.

[Tim]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/travellegaines/status/878078236780937218[/tweet]

 

jimmy's trainer apparently

Has he met the knicks?

[UMFan83]

The internet is destroying the Bulls. Every piece I've read on the trade is a complete destruction of the Bulls front office. This is awful and the worst thing is that this buys them at least 3-4 years until they can get canned.

 

They've completely destroyed this franchise (which I'll give Pax some credit for building but still). We are in the New York/Sacramento class of embarrassingly bad organizations.

[bukie]

i think this might actually be the worst trade any of my teams has ever made in my lifetime (not judged in hindsight)

I mean, it's demonstrably worse than the Bears' trade for the #2 pick where they were bidding against themselves for a player they could have had for free 5 minutes later, because at least the Bears didn't throw away a franchise player for the right to do so.

[David]

i think this might actually be the worst trade any of my teams has ever made in my lifetime (not judged in hindsight)

I mean, it's demonstrably worse than the Bears' trade for the #2 pick where they were bidding against themselves for a player they could have had for free 5 minutes later, because at least the Bears didn't throw away a franchise player for the right to do so.

 

i don't even think that was all that bad

[davell]

I'm hopeful they don't have that type of leash. If LaVine and Dunn don't work out, I'd say they're in trouble.

[David]

so you're basically swapping activity for achievement

 

the bulls were in a much better position 4 hours ago than they are now

 

essentially you're saying you wanted them to dump off their best and extremely valuable asset at any cost just because reasons

 

This I'll actually debate, without conceding I'm auto-wrong lol.

 

We very well MAY have overvalued Jimmy. Again, my honest guess is we chose the wrong deal to accept. But, at mid season, or after the season, I honestly doubt we'd have received THIS much. And I'm OK with moving him now, instead of another middling, at best year.

 

if that was the best package they could get, then they should've kept him, because it is a lot less than he is worth.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

so you're basically swapping activity for achievement

 

the bulls were in a much better position 4 hours ago than they are now

 

essentially you're saying you wanted them to dump off their best and extremely valuable asset at any cost just because reasons

 

This I'll actually debate, without conceding I'm auto-wrong lol.

 

We very well MAY have overvalued Jimmy. Again, my honest guess is we chose the wrong deal to accept. But, at mid season, or after the season, I honestly doubt we'd have received THIS much. And I'm OK with moving him now, instead of another middling, at best year.

 

Jimmy is a top 10-15 player in the league, one of the 5 or so best players to ever put on a Bulls uniform, and the best Bull since MJ and Pippen. Our sorry ass front office, who you admit is terrible and needs to go, just traded him for a pile of flaming garbage, and your like "cool guess we overvalued him. But what a breath of fresh air this is."

 

This is so bizarre I can barely handle it.

[davell]

Getting Jordan Bell in the 2nd is very solid.

[WrigleyField 22]

So sounds like Wade will still opt in. Maybe they'll try to trade him or buy him out. I'd think they'd decline Rondos option.

 

 

PG - Rondo (option) Dunn, MCW (FA), Grant, Payne

SG - Wade, Wade, Valentine, Canaan

SF- Zipser

PF - Markkanen, Niko (FA), Portis, Lauvergne (FA)

C -RoLo, Felicio (FA)

[WrigleyField 22]

Getting Jordan Bell in the 2nd is very solid.

For the defending Champs

 

There's our lost Playoff revenue for 2018, thank goodness.

[davell]

so you're basically swapping activity for achievement

 

the bulls were in a much better position 4 hours ago than they are now

 

essentially you're saying you wanted them to dump off their best and extremely valuable asset at any cost just because reasons

 

This I'll actually debate, without conceding I'm auto-wrong lol.

 

We very well MAY have overvalued Jimmy. Again, my honest guess is we chose the wrong deal to accept. But, at mid season, or after the season, I honestly doubt we'd have received THIS much. And I'm OK with moving him now, instead of another middling, at best year.

 

Jimmy is a top 10-15 player in the league, one of the 5 or so best players to ever put on a Bulls uniform, and the best Bull since MJ and Pippen. Our sorry ass front office, who you admit is terrible and needs to go, just traded him for a pile of flaming garbage, and your like "cool guess we overvalued him. But what a breath of fresh air this is."

 

This is so bizarre I can barely handle it.

 

Come on, the package isn't great. But, its not a flaming pile of garbage. If it PROVES to be, then fine. But, its not right now. There's possibilities with them. And as much as I hate Rose, he won a horsefeathering MVP. Jimmy is NOT the best Bull since Mike and Scottie.

 

The one thing I honestly don't get is standing pat with being .500. I'd much prefer trying to be great than being average. This gets us on an actual path. Probably won't work with these guys running the show, but its better than running the risk of getting even less for him later.

[WrigleyField 22]

Seriously, why am I even posting about this rebuilding team who trades away picks for cash instead of the other way around.

[SpongeWorthy]

Getting Jordan Bell in the 2nd is very solid.

For the defending Champs

 

There's our lost Playoff revenue for 2018, thank goodness.

Does this do anything besides line Jerry's pockets from a team building standpoint?

[davell]

Getting Jordan Bell in the 2nd is very solid.

For the defending Champs

 

There's our lost Playoff revenue for 2018, thank goodness.

 

JFC LOL

[Splendid Splinter]

Getting Jordan Bell in the 2nd is very solid.

For the defending Champs

 

There's our lost Playoff revenue for 2018, thank goodness.

 

WTF???