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4/9: World Champeen Cubs (Jake the Bearded Snake) @ Brewers (Zach "not Greinke" Davies) 1:10PM CST on WGN

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A lot of 91 from Arrieta today. On the one hand, that scares the hell out of me. On the other hand, he looks so much better than he did in the second-half of last year, and the results look really good, too. My prognosis: Take whatever he gives us this year (probably really good stuff), thank him for his great success in a Cubs uniform and stay the hell away from him this off-season.

He looks like he's trying not to over-throw, to me. And the command of his curve has been quite good.

 

Yeah, I've got no issues with what I'm seeing. He's pitching well. He made one mistake at a bad time. But, he's pitching really well. His stuff is probably still filthy, even at 91-92. And maybe him taking a little off will allow him to regain his command, without losing much of his nastiness. Hell, Kyle Hendricks can do it throwing 82 mph. So I'm not super worried about it. But, he's a guy that been injured before, has unorthodox mechanics, has had trouble with his mechanics (last year), now is showing a drop in velo (even if it's due to trying to fix the mechanical issues), he's been bad in the past. It seems like too many red flags, long-term. He's not a Jon Lester that you just plug in and not worry about. There's always something that feels like it could unravel at any moment.

 

So, you take his best seasons, which were some of the finest seasons in franchise history. And then you let someone else worry about all the rest when he is old and getting paid a trillion dollars.

And you do it all over again with Eddie butler.

 

I just wish we hadn't wasted the first year of God mode Jake that people didn't even notice.

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A lot of 91 from Arrieta today. On the one hand, that scares the hell out of me. On the other hand, he looks so much better than he did in the second-half of last year, and the results look really good, too. My prognosis: Take whatever he gives us this year (probably really good stuff), thank him for his great success in a Cubs uniform and stay the hell away from him this off-season.

He looks like he's trying not to over-throw, to me. And the command of his curve has been quite good.

 

Yeah, I've got no issues with what I'm seeing. He's pitching well. He made one mistake at a bad time. But, he's pitching really well. His stuff is probably still filthy, even at 91-92. And maybe him taking a little off will allow him to regain his command, without losing much of his nastiness. Hell, Kyle Hendricks can do it throwing 82 mph. So I'm not super worried about it. But, he's a guy that been injured before, has unorthodox mechanics, has had trouble with his mechanics (last year), now is showing a drop in velo (even if it's due to trying to fix the mechanical issues), he's been bad in the past. It seems like too many red flags, long-term. He's not a Jon Lester that you just plug in and not worry about. There's always something that feels like it could unravel at any moment.

 

So, you take his best seasons, which were some of the finest seasons in franchise history. And then you let someone else worry about all the rest when he is old and getting paid a trillion dollars.

 

I'm pretty confident this has been Theo's plan the whole time. The front office gives lip service about being interested in locking him up, but that's about it.

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Jake could be just dialing it back a little to start the season. It's a long way to go and he had a short off-season so he probably realizes if he wants something left in the tank for October he needs to be conservative in how much energy he exerts. I'm with David, when Jake needs to dial it up, I'm sure he can dial it up.
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A lot of 91 from Arrieta today. On the one hand, that scares the hell out of me. On the other hand, he looks so much better than he did in the second-half of last year, and the results look really good, too. My prognosis: Take whatever he gives us this year (probably really good stuff), thank him for his great success in a Cubs uniform and stay the hell away from him this off-season.

He looks like he's trying not to over-throw, to me. And the command of his curve has been quite good.

 

Yeah, I've got no issues with what I'm seeing. He's pitching well. He made one mistake at a bad time. But, he's pitching really well. His stuff is probably still filthy, even at 91-92. And maybe him taking a little off will allow him to regain his command, without losing much of his nastiness. Hell, Kyle Hendricks can do it throwing 82 mph. So I'm not super worried about it. But, he's a guy that been injured before, has unorthodox mechanics, has had trouble with his mechanics (last year), now is showing a drop in velo (even if it's due to trying to fix the mechanical issues), he's been bad in the past. It seems like too many red flags, long-term. He's not a Jon Lester that you just plug in and not worry about. There's always something that feels like it could unravel at any moment.

 

So, you take his best seasons, which were some of the finest seasons in franchise history. And then you let someone else worry about all the rest when he is old and getting paid a trillion dollars.

Totally agree. I would only be good with a 3 year deal, which he isn't gonna take. He has had a phenomenal short stint with us but at his age and stage of his career there's no way I'd go longer than that.

 

And here he goes and strikes out the side getting some ugly swings. Overall a very solid start with just the bad walk and then the HR.

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what kinda SP could we get with a candelario/happ package

 

Personally I want Chris Archer badly. That's a good start with the two you mentioned but it would probably take more. I know Tampa loves Javy, but that isn't happening.

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A lot of 91 from Arrieta today. On the one hand, that scares the hell out of me. On the other hand, he looks so much better than he did in the second-half of last year, and the results look really good, too. My prognosis: Take whatever he gives us this year (probably really good stuff), thank him for his great success in a Cubs uniform and stay the hell away from him this off-season.

 

Exactly how I feel.

 

And I'm pretty sure he could dial it up to 95 too if he wanted to, tbh.

 

Did anyone hear him on Waddle and Silvy the other day? They asked about his velocity and gave him an out asking if he's holding something back after a long postseason last year etc and his answer was something like "I don't really care what I'm throwing as long as I'm getting people out"

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We don't need to trade Happ. We can deal Candelario, because he's actually blocked. But, we'll be able to find Happ AB's. He doesn't have to contribute much this year, if he does, that's great. But Zobrist will start to age at some point, Happ will start to find 500 AB's within 2 years easily.

 

Plus, we have the D that allows us to take lesser guys much better anyway. We don't need to add an Archer type. Its kind of a waste of resources for us. Buy a guy next year and keep adding the Butler types. Our pitching will stay excellent.

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A lot of 91 from Arrieta today. On the one hand, that scares the hell out of me. On the other hand, he looks so much better than he did in the second-half of last year, and the results look really good, too. My prognosis: Take whatever he gives us this year (probably really good stuff), thank him for his great success in a Cubs uniform and stay the hell away from him this off-season.

 

Exactly how I feel.

 

And I'm pretty sure he could dial it up to 95 too if he wanted to, tbh.

 

Did anyone hear him on Waddle and Silvy the other day? They asked about his velocity and gave him an out asking if he's holding something back after a long postseason last year etc and his answer was something like "I don't really care what I'm throwing as long as I'm getting people out"

 

Everyone kept coming to Jake last year with stuff people had been noticing, asking him what's wrong, how's he going to fix it, etc. And every time, he was like, "Whatever. I'm just going out and doing my thing, yada yada yada." We'll never get an answer from him about what's actually going on. He's the last person to ask. So it'll be left to a million people to posit ideas about his velocity this year.

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We don't need to trade Happ. We can deal Candelario, because he's actually blocked. But, we'll be able to find Happ AB's. He doesn't have to contribute much this year, if he does, that's great. But Zobrist will start to age at some point, Happ will start to find 500 AB's within 2 years easily.

 

Plus, we have the D that allows us to take lesser guys much better anyway. We don't need to add an Archer type. Its kind of a waste of resources for us. Buy a guy next year and keep adding the Butler types. Our pitching will stay excellent.

Do you see the possibility that Zobrist doesn't finish his contract with the Cubs?

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