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Sources: Boras.

The 10 year offer thing I could definitely see being Boras blowing smoke. The White Sox thing I buy, they were always in this to make it look like they were ready to be big boys to their fans and then ultimately bow out/know Bryce and Manny weren’t coming.

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Sources: Boras.

The 10 year offer thing I could definitely see being Boras blowing smoke. The White Sox thing I buy, they were always in this to make it look like they were ready to be big boys to their fans and then ultimately bow out/know Bryce and Manny weren’t coming.

 

Yep. Gotta feed into that whole underdog mentality.

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someone splain this tweet to me

Levine reported earlier in the day the White Sox wouldn’t go to 10 years on Manny/Bryce (7 was allegedly as much as they’d go). Then he put this poorly worded tweet up to say Bryce does have 10 year offers at good AAV’s and shoehorned in the WS aren’t one of those teams using the info he previously reported.

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someone splain this tweet to me

Levine reported earlier in the day the White Sox wouldn’t go to 10 years on Manny/Bryce (7 was allegedly as much as they’d go). Then he put this poorly worded tweet up to say Bryce does have 10 year offers at good AAV’s and shoehorned in the WS aren’t one of those teams using the info he previously reported.

 

i'm talking about the 5 war player part. is he saying the amount is something you'd expect a 5 win player to get? that's a very vague statement.

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someone splain this tweet to me

Levine reported earlier in the day the White Sox wouldn’t go to 10 years on Manny/Bryce (7 was allegedly as much as they’d go). Then he put this poorly worded tweet up to say Bryce does have 10 year offers at good AAV’s and shoehorned in the WS aren’t one of those teams using the info he previously reported.

 

i'm talking about the 5 war player part. is he saying the amount is something you'd expect a 5 win player to get? that's a very vague statement.

 

he's saying he's getting the 10 year big AAV offers a 5 win player should be getting

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Levine reported earlier in the day the White Sox wouldn’t go to 10 years on Manny/Bryce (7 was allegedly as much as they’d go). Then he put this poorly worded tweet up to say Bryce does have 10 year offers at good AAV’s and shoehorned in the WS aren’t one of those teams using the info he previously reported.

 

i'm talking about the 5 war player part. is he saying the amount is something you'd expect a 5 win player to get? that's a very vague statement.

 

he's saying he's getting the 10 year big AAV offers a 5 win player should be getting

 

a 5 win player of his age, or a 5 win player at the more normal FA age? a player who is consistently worth 5 wins, or a player who has been worth 5 wins but will likely have seasons being worth much more? like, lorenzo cain was a 5 win player for a while, but he would never get 10 years. i just have no idea what kind of amount he means by just saying "5 war player".

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i was just untangling the mess of words, not saying the thought made any sense

 

he's just saying other teams are making the types of offers he's deserving of

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i was just untangling the mess of words, not saying the thought made any sense

 

he's just saying other teams are making the types of offers he's deserving of

 

i ask because harper is such a unique FA in terms of both talent and age, so i kind of read his tweet to be downplaying the amount he'll get. i know 5 wins is worth a ton, but i think calling him a 5 war player is kind of underselling him.

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It feels like Manny is close to signing. I just hope that feeling is accurate and that Bryce isn't more than a week or so behind.
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i was just untangling the mess of words, not saying the thought made any sense

 

he's just saying other teams are making the types of offers he's deserving of

 

i ask because harper is such a unique FA in terms of both talent and age, so i kind of read his tweet to be downplaying the amount he'll get. i know 5 wins is worth a ton, but i think calling him a 5 war player is kind of underselling him.

I think he’s just trying to use WAR in a way to get the point across the offers he’s received reflect a highly valuable player but doesn’t exactly know what he’s saying. A win is worth $9-11 mil, right? So he’s probably not using it literally. I doubt he has 10 year ~$500 million offers.

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i was just untangling the mess of words, not saying the thought made any sense

 

he's just saying other teams are making the types of offers he's deserving of

 

i ask because harper is such a unique FA in terms of both talent and age, so i kind of read his tweet to be downplaying the amount he'll get. i know 5 wins is worth a ton, but i think calling him a 5 war player is kind of underselling him.

I think he’s just trying to use WAR in a way to get the point across the offers he’s received reflect a highly valuable player but doesn’t exactly know what he’s saying. A win is worth $9-11 mil, right? So he’s probably not using it literally. I doubt he has 10 year ~$500 million offers.

He's just parroting what Boras probably told him to say. No chance Levine knows what a 5 win player is.

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Not to derail the thread, but have we submitted our respective guesses as to what Bryce's ultimate contract will be (regardless of team)? I'm honestly at a loss as to whether he ends up with like 8 years / $300 million or something more in the framework of 4 years / $200 million with all kinds of opt-outs. Or neither (as in, something richer than anything I've described).

 

Edited to add apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere.

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Not to derail the thread, but have we submitted our respective guesses as to what Bryce's ultimate contract will be (regardless of team)? I'm honestly at a loss as to whether he ends up with like 8 years / $300 million or something more in the framework of 4 years / $200 million with all kinds of opt-outs. Or neither (as in, something richer than anything I've described).

 

Edited to add apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere.

I'm expecting something like 12 years, 380 mil with opt outs after seasons 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

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Not to derail the thread, but have we submitted our respective guesses as to what Bryce's ultimate contract will be (regardless of team)? I'm honestly at a loss as to whether he ends up with like 8 years / $300 million or something more in the framework of 4 years / $200 million with all kinds of opt-outs. Or neither (as in, something richer than anything I've described).

 

Edited to add apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere.

I'm expecting something like 12 years, 380 mil with opt outs after seasons 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

I’ve always had 13/375 in my head +/- (maybe over 400 if he will allow for deferments). He ultimately will get more years than less I feel like for teams wanting to be LT conscious and he gets to have the largest contract ever and yeah multiple opt outs somewhere between years 3 and 6.

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I think it's best to ignore any and all "well actually Team A offered him $XXX over Y years contracts but he turned it down" reports in the media.

 

Most of the time it's just a way for management to convince fans they were trying.

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I think it's best to ignore any and all "well actually Team A offered him $XXX over Y years contracts but he turned it down" reports in the media.

 

Most of the time it's just a way for management to convince fans they were trying.

I think that’s where I lean, either it’s the team showing publicly they made an effort (whether or not it’s true who knows) or it’s Boras trying to stir horsefeathers up.

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Since there's nothing better to post, we can at least entertain ourselves with what the cat is up to.

 

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