10/28 World Series Game 3 Cleveland (Tomlin) @ CUBS (Hendricks) 7:08 CDT, Fox

[UMFan83]

It's like minny somehow absorbed the souls of every fan that has ever called into the Boers and Bernstein show. Edited October 27, 2016 by UMFan83

[USSoccer]

Heyward could hit one out in that environment

 

As much as I enjoyed his hard hit ball to the outfield last night, I'm more convinced he'd hit into some ground ball double plays, so he's out of the line up in those conditions. Besides, Zobrist has to play RF to get Schwarber into LF.

 

Unless they do something dumb and move Zobrist to 2B and sit Javy so they can get Schwarber in LF.

[minnesotacubsfan]

what if Francona changed his starter? who could he pitch?

 

He doesn't. That's the problem with the Indians...they don't have healthy starters.

 

oh. good.

[The Savior]

Goes both ways

[WrigleyField 22]

It's a shame the guy we're going against doesn't allow fly balls to be hit very far. Oh wait, that's not right.

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That's right. It's our pitcher who is good at that. It'd also be a shame if the guy on the other team has relied on getting flyouts on balls hit at least 300 feet -- you know, the kind that might fly out of the park instead in that kind of wind.

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Oh, he's gotten a ton of outs that way. And our guy hasn't needed them.

 

does any of this matter in 40 mph wins? i mean, its not 10, or 20. its 40. I hope so, but but holy horsefeathers

 

Ground balls aren't affected by the wind. You have one of the better ground ball pitchers in the league going who also happens to be the best at inducing weak contact. He might give up a gopher ball or even 2 but I would guess that for the most part Hendricks is the ideal pitcher to have pitching in these conditions.

 

Is my theory on Hendricks correct?

He's 21st overall in GB rate, 23rd in GB/FB (amongst qualified pitchers). Obviously good. Where he really shines is HR/FB rate, which is top 3. The link Duke posted is encouraging, his FBs just aren't going as far it seems. If that's a sustainable thing, you're in good hands regardless of wind, I'd think.

Edited October 27, 2016 by WrigleyField 22

[Aaron_Kennelly]

It's a shame the guy we're going against doesn't allow fly balls to be hit very far. Oh wait, that's not right.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/statcast_search?hfPT=&hfZ=&hfGT=R%7C&hfPR=&hfAB=&stadium=&hfBBT=1%7C&hfBBL=&hfC=&season=2016&player_type=pitcher&hfOuts=&pitcher_throws=&batter_stands=&start_speed_gt=&start_speed_lt=&perceived_speed_gt=&perceived_speed_lt=&spin_rate_gt=&spin_rate_lt=&exit_velocity_gt=&exit_velocity_lt=&launch_angle_gt=&launch_angle_lt=&distance_gt=&distance_lt=&batted_ball_angle_gt=&batted_ball_angle_lt=&game_date_gt=&game_date_lt=&team=&position=&hfRO=&home_road=&hfInn=&min_pitches=2000&min_results=0&group_by=name&sort_col=bbdist&player_event_sort=start_speed&sort_order=desc&min_abs=0&xba_gt=&xba_lt=&px1=&px2=&pz1=&pz2=&ss_gt=&ss_lt=&is_barrel=#results

 

That's right. It's our pitcher who is good at that. It'd also be a shame if the guy on the other team has relied on getting flyouts on balls hit at least 300 feet -- you know, the kind that might fly out of the park instead in that kind of wind.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/statcast_search?hfPT=&hfZ=&hfGT=R%7C&hfPR=&hfAB=12%7C&stadium=&hfBBT=&hfBBL=&hfC=&season=2016&player_type=pitcher&hfOuts=&pitcher_throws=&batter_stands=&start_speed_gt=&start_speed_lt=&perceived_speed_gt=&perceived_speed_lt=&spin_rate_gt=&spin_rate_lt=&exit_velocity_gt=&exit_velocity_lt=&launch_angle_gt=&launch_angle_lt=&distance_gt=300&distance_lt=&batted_ball_angle_gt=&batted_ball_angle_lt=&game_date_gt=&game_date_lt=&team=&position=&hfRO=&home_road=&hfInn=&min_pitches=2000&min_results=0&group_by=name&sort_col=pitch_percent&player_event_sort=start_speed&sort_order=desc&min_abs=0&xba_gt=&xba_lt=&px1=&px2=&pz1=&pz2=&ss_gt=&ss_lt=&is_barrel=#results

 

Oh, he's gotten a ton of outs that way. And our guy hasn't needed them.

 

does any of this matter in 40 mph wins? i mean, its not 10, or 20. its 40. I hope so, but but holy horsefeathers

 

Ground balls aren't affected by the wind. You have one of the better ground ball pitchers in the league going who also happens to be the best at inducing weak contact. He might give up a gopher ball or even 2 but I would guess that for the most part Hendricks is the ideal pitcher to have pitching in these conditions.

 

Is my theory on Hendricks correct?

 

I would say, unequivocally, so.

 

We can break this down even more as to why it favors Hendricks. For one, Hendricks is a really good pitcher and gets a lot of ground balls, like you say. But we've also seen a bunch of articles -- and witnessed it ourselves -- talking about how diverse his arsenal is. He keeps guys off-balance. He's got a ton of useful pitches that he can use at any moment. I've shown he's good at getting weak contact in the air and on the ground. But, there was one article that showed that he becomes much better when men are on, and that it is because he changes how he pitches. He looks for weak contact when nobody's on and then he brings out the changeup to get whiffs when there is trouble. And we've seen times where he gets a lot of weak fly outs and pop-ups in a game, and then the next outing he gets a ton of ground balls. I think a lot of that has to do with game plans, based off of opponents and conditions.

 

Basically, Hendricks can do whatever he wants to get guys out. And he decides what to do based on circumstances. In this circumstance, he'll know fly balls are bad. So he'll probably look to get more whiffs and keep the ball on the ground as much as possible. That means he'll attack low, with a heavy diet of sinkers. And he'll bring out the change more often when he gets to two strikes, even when guys aren't on.

 

Tomlin, on the other hand, doesn't have much of repertoire. He pretty much survives solely because he doesn't walk guys. After that, he just prays that he gets more 325-foot fly outs than 400-foot homers. He has no hope in this endeavor. He can't miss bats like Hendricks. He can't get ground balls like Hendricks. All he can do is pray. And that's not going to work.

[minnesotacubsfan]

It's like minny somehow absorbed the souls of every fan that has ever called into the Boers and Bernstein show.

 

neeeeever listened to them. I've been at war at work + my natural tendency to be paranoid = this

[Banedon]

Goes both ways

 

What is this in reference to?

[minnesotacubsfan]

Goes both ways

 

What is this in reference to?

 

 

the wind

[jersey cubs fan]

Goes both ways

 

What is this in reference to?

 

 

the wind

that's a tornado

[Banedon]

Goes both ways

 

What is this in reference to?

 

 

the wind

 

With the amount of words posted on that subject in this thread I think "goes both ways" is a post that could use a bit of added information.

[ScrubMD]

As much as the wind would seem to benefit us in this game, I'd prefer no wind. I always want as few variables as possible in games where we have an advantage (which I know is almost all of them, but still).

[Banedon]

As much as the wind would seem to benefit us in this game, I'd prefer no wind. I always want as few variables as possible in games where we have an advantage (which I know is almost all of them, but still).

 

Well sure, but this isn't a situation where we get to choose. It is what it is.

[ScrubMD]

As much as the wind would seem to benefit us in this game, I'd prefer no wind. I always want as few variables as possible in games where we have an advantage (which I know is almost all of them, but still).

 

Well sure, but this isn't a situation where we get to choose. It is what it is.

 

I understand this concept.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

What is this in reference to?

 

 

the wind

that's a tornado

 

orange skies

[itisallpartoftheplan]

Win this one and we are up 2-1 with 4 straight outings by pitchers on 3 days rest by Cleveland...if necessary.

[Sammy Sofa]

[Sammy Sofa]

[Sammy Sofa]

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

I'm saying crazy horsefeathers now?

 

lets not forget the hr hitters Cleveland does have. this isnt a team full of Jose Macias clones

[Clem Fandango]

Okay, the site is fine, it's my internet. At work now and the site is loading up perfectly. Stupid home internet.

[Banedon]

 

I'm saying crazy horsefeathers now?

 

lets not forget the hr hitters Cleveland does have. this isnt a team full of Jose Macias clones

 

Beware Roberto Perez.

[Sammy Sofa]

 

I'm saying crazy horsefeathers now?

 

lets not forget the hr hitters Cleveland does have. this isnt a team full of Jose Macias clones

 

OK? The Cubs have the better starting pitcher and a better lineup for slugging and they're at home. It's not a lock, but a windy game is in their favor.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

I'm saying crazy horsefeathers now?

 

lets not forget the hr hitters Cleveland does have. this isnt a team full of Jose Macias clones

 

Beware Roberto Perez.

 

Napoli. Ramirez. Santana. Lindor. I mean, not to be a dick or anything

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

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