7/30 Mariners (Miley) @ Cubs (Arrieta) 1:20 CSN

[Ski]

It's totally reasonable for an offense to go from completely locked in to completely baffled in the span of a day.

[snoodmonger]

Good ab Javy.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Jesus, Baez.

 

I was actually going to say that Cisek and his delivery would be a bad match For him.

[KrisBryantisaBeast]

That might be the worst at bat ever Baez :shock:

[Bryants Disco Ball]

It's totally reasonable for an offense to go from completely locked in to completely baffled in the span of a day.

 

I bet that happens a ton, actually.

[Little Slide Rooter]

That was a piss poor way to end the game.

[Sammy Sofa]

Russell and Baez I think maybe regressed back into infancy today. Yikes.

[Ski]

Hopefully today will teach Maddon that you use your two best bullets in the pen for the last two innings of a one run game.

[UMFan83]

Welp miserable loss. Just when you think the Cubs are finally starting to go on a roll you get a game like this.

 

Boggles my mind that the Cubs could possibly be 1-6 in Jakes last 7 starts

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Well, that was a weird one. Seven innings of nothing and then a crazy two innings.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Baseball is all about playing the percentages. Who do you trust more to throw a shutdown inning, Jake after he's pitched seven innings (not to mention he's demonstrated some control issues, at least compared to last year), or a rested Rondon, who has a miniscule walk rate?

 

That logic applies in the 7th inning, and the 6th inning, and the 5th inning too. You can't pitch the same relievers every game, so you have to 'play the percentages' where you make slightly less than optimal decisions to make tomorrow better. Rondon is a better bet to blank the M's in the 8th, but Arrieta at 90 pitches when he's been very good(and the hitters due up were 0 for 4) is also a very good option. Like we saw, going to Arrieta doesn't preclude you from later going to the better option too, as we were Chapman v. Leonys Martin from getting out of the inning with no runs.

[17 Seconds]

Hopefully today will teach Maddon that you use your two best bullets in the pen for the last two innings of a one run game.

 

shut up, if rondon gave up a solo home run you would have been bitching about joe taking out a dealing arrieta

 

joe played it fine. it's just that we had no room for error due to crappy offense and the felon didn't do his job

Edited July 30, 2016 by 17 Seconds

[Aaron_Kennelly]

It's totally reasonable for an offense to go from completely locked in to completely baffled in the span of a day.

 

Um... OK?

[Gmoney08]

it's a sad state of affairs if we're afraid to have jake start the 8th inning at 90 pitches with a shutout going

 

I dont care if its Kershaw 60 pitches into a perfect game.. i have zero problems starting Rondon in the 8th and flippin to Chapman in every close game we have a lead.

 

Well, that's just silly. As you just saw with Chapman, those guys aren't perfect either.

 

Arrieta was rolling. The first at bat, he was all over the corner of the zone and couldn't get a call. He wasn't really missing his spots or anything. The second AB was bad. And, of course, it was obvious to pull him there. But, before that, it is a lot of people looking at things in hindsight. Or, at best, it is people making a decision (Arrieta or the pen) that isn't entirely clear. Hell, people were calling for Chapman from the get-go over Rondon, and we saw how Rondon vs. Chapman worked out later in the inning. And those people weren't necessarily wrong.

 

The point being: It's a tough call. And leaving in your ace when he is rolling isn't such a bad idea.

 

I know Aroldis & Rondon are here to put out fires and they will most the time. Every one in awhile someone will rip an opposite field gapper off them taking their heat the other way. But, giving them a clean slate inning to start with & they are goin to be damn near perfect. Not necessarily unbeatable but it will be very Rare to beat.

 

Coupled with Jakes struggles of late. Seemed like an easy decision.. its very hard to string together multiple base runners against our duo.

[itisallpartoftheplan]

I'd rather win today than worry about tomorrow or Monday's bullpen.

 

No guarantee we'll be in a position to use them tomorrow. Oh well.

[UMFan83]

That was the 9th XBH that Chapman had allowed to a lefty in his career. I don't blame Maddon for putting him in there. He's like 99.5% likely to end the inning at least tied. The 0.5% won out today

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I know Fan Graphs percentage is high and all that, but I'll still accept a Cardinals loss tonight.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

 

I dont care if its Kershaw 60 pitches into a perfect game.. i have zero problems starting Rondon in the 8th and flippin to Chapman in every close game we have a lead.

 

Well, that's just silly. As you just saw with Chapman, those guys aren't perfect either.

 

Arrieta was rolling. The first at bat, he was all over the corner of the zone and couldn't get a call. He wasn't really missing his spots or anything. The second AB was bad. And, of course, it was obvious to pull him there. But, before that, it is a lot of people looking at things in hindsight. Or, at best, it is people making a decision (Arrieta or the pen) that isn't entirely clear. Hell, people were calling for Chapman from the get-go over Rondon, and we saw how Rondon vs. Chapman worked out later in the inning. And those people weren't necessarily wrong.

 

The point being: It's a tough call. And leaving in your ace when he is rolling isn't such a bad idea.

 

I know Aroldis & Rondon are here to put out fires and they will most the time. Every one in awhile someone will rip an opposite field gapper off them taking their heat the other way. But, giving them a clean slate inning to start with & they are goin to be damn near perfect. Not necessarily unbeatable but it will be very Rare to beat.

 

Coupled with Jakes struggles of late. Seemed like an easy decision.. its very hard to string together multiple base runners against our duo.

 

It was also hard to string together multiple base runners against Arrieta today. How many had he given up before the 8th? 3?

[Bryants Disco Ball]

That was the 9th XBH that Chapman had allowed to a lefty in his career. I don't blame Maddon for putting him in there. He's like 99.5% likely to end the inning at least tied. The 0.5% won out today

 

Yup. It just didn't happen for us. We had the big advantage and it just didn't work out.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

Well, that's just silly. As you just saw with Chapman, those guys aren't perfect either.

 

Arrieta was rolling. The first at bat, he was all over the corner of the zone and couldn't get a call. He wasn't really missing his spots or anything. The second AB was bad. And, of course, it was obvious to pull him there. But, before that, it is a lot of people looking at things in hindsight. Or, at best, it is people making a decision (Arrieta or the pen) that isn't entirely clear. Hell, people were calling for Chapman from the get-go over Rondon, and we saw how Rondon vs. Chapman worked out later in the inning. And those people weren't necessarily wrong.

 

The point being: It's a tough call. And leaving in your ace when he is rolling isn't such a bad idea.

 

I know Aroldis & Rondon are here to put out fires and they will most the time. Every one in awhile someone will rip an opposite field gapper off them taking their heat the other way. But, giving them a clean slate inning to start with & they are goin to be damn near perfect. Not necessarily unbeatable but it will be very Rare to beat.

 

Coupled with Jakes struggles of late. Seemed like an easy decision.. its very hard to string together multiple base runners against our duo.

 

It was also hard to string together multiple base runners against Arrieta today. How many had he given up before the 8th? 3?

 

Yep, one walk and two singles.

[UMFan83]

 

Well, that's just silly. As you just saw with Chapman, those guys aren't perfect either.

 

Arrieta was rolling. The first at bat, he was all over the corner of the zone and couldn't get a call. He wasn't really missing his spots or anything. The second AB was bad. And, of course, it was obvious to pull him there. But, before that, it is a lot of people looking at things in hindsight. Or, at best, it is people making a decision (Arrieta or the pen) that isn't entirely clear. Hell, people were calling for Chapman from the get-go over Rondon, and we saw how Rondon vs. Chapman worked out later in the inning. And those people weren't necessarily wrong.

 

The point being: It's a tough call. And leaving in your ace when he is rolling isn't such a bad idea.

 

I know Aroldis & Rondon are here to put out fires and they will most the time. Every one in awhile someone will rip an opposite field gapper off them taking their heat the other way. But, giving them a clean slate inning to start with & they are goin to be damn near perfect. Not necessarily unbeatable but it will be very Rare to beat.

 

Coupled with Jakes struggles of late. Seemed like an easy decision.. its very hard to string together multiple base runners against our duo.

 

It was also hard to string together multiple base runners against Arrieta today. How many had he given up before the 8th? 3?

 

Yes and all 3 of those base runners were in the same inning I think

[17 Seconds]

i think people talked themselves into believing the bullpen is 100% infallible to justify giving up a big package for a reliever who is also a heinous person, so i expect everyone to act bewildered every time we blow a 1 run lead

[shnsajax]

That was the 9th XBH that Chapman had allowed to a lefty in his career. I don't blame Maddon for putting him in there. He's like 99.5% likely to end the inning at least tied. The 0.5% won out today

 

This is why baseball is stupid

 

 

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[Ski]

That was the 9th XBH that Chapman had allowed to a lefty in his career. I don't blame Maddon for putting him in there. He's like 99.5% likely to end the inning at least tied. The 0.5% won out today

This, combined with all the improbable Cards [expletive] lately, is incredibly stupid. Maybe we could have all this dumb unlikely horsefeathers back in 2012 when it didn't even matter?

 

Actually, there were probably just as many flukes during the tanking years, just no one noticed them because wins were meaningless.

[Sammy Sofa]

That was the 9th XBH that Chapman had allowed to a lefty in his career. I don't blame Maddon for putting him in there. He's like 99.5% likely to end the inning at least tied. The 0.5% won out today

This, combined with all the improbable Cards [expletive] lately, is incredibly stupid. Maybe we could have all this dumb unlikely [expletive] back in 2012 when it didn't even matter?

 

Actually, there were probably just as many flukes during the tanking years, just no one noticed them because wins were meaningless.

 

Wait, you seriously think there's an usual amount of fluke-y things happening this seas-oh, wait, I just realized who I was talking to.