The Pitchers we can trade for....

[Cubswin11]

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[Derwood]

I feel like a trade for a SP would come as a minor surprise now. Smoke has mostly cleared from that fire

[KingCubsFan]

I feel like a trade for a SP would come as a minor surprise now. Smoke has mostly cleared from that fire

Yeah, it seems like they're pretty content to start the season with what they have, which isn't a terrible strategy given how much young pitching costs in a trade and the fact that Hammel was good in the first half. Truly a "[expletive] pitchers" offseason by Theo if that's the case.

[Flames24Rulz]

I feel like a trade for a SP would come as a minor surprise now. Smoke has mostly cleared from that fire

Yeah, it seems like they're pretty content to start the season with what they have, which isn't a terrible strategy given how much young pitching costs in a trade and the fact that Hammel was good in the first half. Truly a "[expletive] pitchers" offseason by Theo if that's the case.

 

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. The Cubs have all of the leverage in this situation -- if July rolls around and it's apparent that you need to make a move for another starter, you can absolutely do it with the pieces that you have.

 

Arrieta-Lester-Lackey-Hammel-Hendricks is a pretty solid rotation. You'd love to have another frontline starter, but wait for the market to go down from the price that it's currently at.

[Bull]

I feel like a trade for a SP would come as a minor surprise now. Smoke has mostly cleared from that fire

Yeah, it seems like they're pretty content to start the season with what they have, which isn't a terrible strategy given how much young pitching costs in a trade and the fact that Hammel was good in the first half. Truly a "[expletive] pitchers" offseason by Theo if that's the case.

 

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. The Cubs have all of the leverage in this situation -- if July rolls around and it's apparent that you need to make a move for another starter, you can absolutely do it with the pieces that you have.

Arrieta-Lester-Lackey-Hammel-Hendricks is a pretty solid rotation. You'd love to have another frontline starter, but wait for the market to go down from the price that it's currently at.

 

While I agree that Theo and Jed don't need to be overly concerned about the rotation, I don't think the bolded is necessarily true. You have the pieces NOW, but none of your tradeable pieces are bust-proof through July.

[Clem Fandango]

Yasiel Sierra was officially declared a free agent today. I know Tim has been beating the Sierra drum for a while.

[Guest]

He's not as big a priority to me now that we have Warren. I'd still love to sign him as stashable depth, but my guess is that he'd prioritize a team where he has a chance at the rotation in 2016.

 

At this point, I'm all about adding as many upside guys as possible.

[JennieGarthAlgar]

I want one of them 'shutdown 7-8-9 inning bullpens' some of them teams are getting. What do we gotta do to get to that point?

[Guest]

I want one of them 'shutdown 7-8-9 inning bullpens' some of them teams are getting. What do we gotta do to get to that point?

 

Coghlan and prospects for McGee and Desmond Jennings would round out both the bench and bullpen pretty nicely.

[nilodnayr]

I want one of them 'shutdown 7-8-9 inning bullpens' some of them teams are getting. What do we gotta do to get to that point?

 

Coghlan and prospects for McGee and Desmond Jennings would round out both the bench and bullpen pretty nicely.

 

That would have to be some pretty decent prospect package as Coghlan isn't as valuable as either McGee or Jennings and the elite reliever market is pretty crazy right now.

[Guest]

I want one of them 'shutdown 7-8-9 inning bullpens' some of them teams are getting. What do we gotta do to get to that point?

 

Coghlan and prospects for McGee and Desmond Jennings would round out both the bench and bullpen pretty nicely.

 

That would have to be some pretty decent prospect package as Coghlan isn't as valuable as either McGee or Jennings and the elite reliever market is pretty crazy right now.

 

Prospects in this case means more that it isn't MLB pieces being sent rather an indicator of quality. Coghlan is pretty close to McGee in value, but while Jennings isn't a star he would require a return of some significance.

[Cubswin11]

I want one of them 'shutdown 7-8-9 inning bullpens' some of them teams are getting. What do we gotta do to get to that point?

 

Coghlan and prospects for McGee and Desmond Jennings would round out both the bench and bullpen pretty nicely.

 

That would have to be some pretty decent prospect package as Coghlan isn't as valuable as either McGee or Jennings and the elite reliever market is pretty crazy right now.

 

Prospects in this case means more that it isn't MLB pieces being sent rather an indicator of quality. Coghlan is pretty close to McGee in value, but while Jennings isn't a star he would require a return of some significance.

Coghlan, CJ, Jeimer and since it's an AL team throw in Vogelbach?

[Cubswin11]

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[Bryants Disco Ball]

I know I'm wrong, but I can't help getting the feeling that Fowler is a guy for the Cubs like Zobrist was. Working behind the scenes to sign him, but having to complete a trade of Soler to Tampa Bay first.

[Cubswin11]

I know I'm wrong, but I can't help getting the feeling that Fowler is a guy for the Cubs like Zobrist was. Working behind the scenes to sign him, but having to complete a trade of Soler to Tampa Bay first.

Hopefully your wrong and it's Coghlan + prospects to the Rays for McGee and we will have a 4-headed monster of an OF with Schwarbs-Heyward-Fowler-Soler

[Guest]

Stop trying to make Fowler happen

[Backtobanks]

I know I'm wrong, but I can't help getting the feeling that Fowler is a guy for the Cubs like Zobrist was. Working behind the scenes to sign him, but having to complete a trade of Soler to Tampa Bay first.

Hopefully your wrong and it's Coghlan + prospects to the Rays for McGee and we will have a 4-headed monster of an OF with Schwarbs-Heyward-Fowler-Soler

 

Expand the deal Soler + Coghlan + prospects for Odorizzi, Jennings, and McGee. Sign Fowler and you have lots of versatility with 3 guys who can play CF or corner OF including a switch hitter.

[Post Count Padder]

I know I'm wrong, but I can't help getting the feeling that Fowler is a guy for the Cubs like Zobrist was. Working behind the scenes to sign him, but having to complete a trade of Soler to Tampa Bay first.

Hopefully your wrong and it's Coghlan + prospects to the Rays for McGee and we will have a 4-headed monster of an OF with Schwarbs-Heyward-Fowler-Soler

 

Expand the deal Soler + Coghlan + prospects for Odorizzi, Jennings, and McGee. Sign Fowler and you have lots of versatility with 3 guys who can play CF or corner OF including a switch hitter.

Remind me why we want Desmond Jennings?

[davell]

I don't have much interest in Odorizzi honestly.

[davell]

I like Moore enough as a bounce back guy, but only if you can get him without Javy or Soler. I even like Cobb as a one and a half year guy, in the same scenario. But Odorizzi likely DOES cost us one of those 2 and he's not much of an upgrade over our 4/5 now.

 

I think its fairly apparent we can eventually earmark one of Gray/Archer/Fernandez to the Dodgers, since they won't stop stocking their system with Cubans. I'd rather hold onto our top chips in order to be able to get one from that group too, at mid season or even next off season.

[Backtobanks]

From MLBTR:

The Cubs have remained in “constant contact” with the Rays, reports Jim Bowden of ESPN.com (audio link). It’s previously been suggested that Chicago could have interest in Alex Cobb, but Bowden hints that Jake Odorizzi could make a nice fit for Chicago in a deal. The hang-up, though, is that the Cubs are trying to swing a deal without giving up Jorge Soler, Javier Baez, or other major league pieces.

[Tedward]

From MLBTR:

The Cubs have remained in “constant contact” with the Rays, reports Jim Bowden of ESPN.com (audio link). It’s previously been suggested that Chicago could have interest in Alex Cobb, but Bowden hints that Jake Odorizzi could make a nice fit for Chicago in a deal. The hang-up, though, is that the Cubs are trying to swing a deal without giving up Jorge Soler, Javier Baez, or other major league pieces.

 

Rosenthal put out a tweet yesterday regarding the Cubs and TB potentially being connected, & Morosi tweeted earlier this morning that TB is ramping up their efforts to trade pitching.

 

Obviously this isn't breaking news, Cubs & TB have been talking throughout the winter, but it finally seems like TB may be close to making a move, interesting.

[davell]

Phil Rogers came up with 5 trades between the Cubs and Rays.....

 

1) McGee for McKinney(I'm in)

 

2) Cobb and McGee for Coghlan, Contreras, Vogelbach, and McKinney([expletive] no)

 

3) Odorizzi and McGee for Baez, McKinney, and Vogelbach(he's valuing Cobb more than Odorizzi?)

 

4) Archer and McGee for Soler, Baez, McKinney, and Vogelbach

 

5) Archer, McGee, and Kiermaier for Schwarber, Baez, McKinney, and Torres

[Cubswin11]

I'd do 1 and 2 if it was Odorizzi and not Cobb in trade 2. The other 3 I would not do

[davell]

I don't like 2 solely because Cobb is coming off TJS, we don't know when he'll pitch(he did have it in May last year though, I think) and he's only got 1 year after this one under control. If healthy, I DO like him more than Odorizzi though.

 

I love Archer, but do like Fernandez, Gray, Carrasco more. I kind of look at Kiermaier as overkill, I doubt he'd be as valuable for us as he is for them.

 

At any rate, if McGee can be had for McKinney, I hope we jump on it.