Bears vs Packers week 1

[ARCubsFan]

i keep forgetting i had hope of marquess wilson being a thing, so maybe he'll be a thing.

He's made of glass

[jersey cubs fan]

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[cubbyvirus00]

71-10 Packers

[jersey cubs fan]

Why does it make me happy to hear a Bears coach say this?

 

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[Banedon]

Why does it make me happy to hear a Bears coach say this?

 

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Because you know that coach is dealing with reality instead of inventing his own?

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eh- limited stat from meaningless games

[Guest]

if the rest of those guys on that list sans tannehill didn't say that, i dont know what did

 

 

but the cutler was really good in camp and preseason narrative is one i am going to hang hope on for now

[UMFan83]

Barnwell has the Bears as one of his 8 teams expected to improve this year. One positive voice in a sea of negativity.

[SpongeWorthy]

we will dominate

[jersey cubs fan]

Barnwell has the Bears as one of his 8 teams expected to improve this year. One positive voice in a sea of negativity.

Win 6 and mission accomplished

[rawaction]

if the rest of those guys on that list sans tannehill didn't say that, i dont know what did

 

 

but the cutler was really good in camp and preseason narrative is one i am going to hang hope on for now

 

Such a fresh and original narrative that we've never heard before.

[Guest]

wow, Boston media members don't like to hear that Rodgers is better than Brady, at all.

[Guest]

wow, Boston media members don't like to hear that Rodgers is better than Brady, at all.

 

lmao

 

i love brady but he absolutely is and it's really not close

[Guest]

if the rest of those guys on that list sans tannehill didn't say that, i dont know what did

 

 

but the cutler was really good in camp and preseason narrative is one i am going to hang hope on for now

 

Such a fresh and original narrative that we've never heard before.

 

well it kind of is. the other times it was just coaches saying he looked great and was smart and all that. this time there at least were things said about his actual play. the zero or one or whatever interceptions in camp is a definite outlier. he'd usually throw probably 5 or 6 a week (pulled that out of my ass - but whatever the number was it was a lot more than like 1 over all of camp). plus these PFF numbers in a small preseason sample.

 

i'm not arguing that it means anything. i'm arguing that the narrative i'm irrationally hanging my hopes on and referring to here is relatively fresh and original and not like the ones you're referring to.

 

also cutler, while not as great as we hoped when he had an offensive coach and lots of talent around him, seemed to be pretty ok at making lemonade out of lemons in his earlier years when our offense had lots of bums everywhere. and his talent alone means that there will be some good jay games sprinkled in, which is why i refuse to believe that this is a 4-5 win team "at best" like some people are saying right now.

 

that plus some really really good coordinators have me where my expectations, while not high, seem to be higher than most.

[UMFan83]

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/9/4/9261761/what-if-your-team-had-suffered-the-same-offseason-fate-as-the-niners

 

This is awesome except most of the people the Bears would have lost actually were lost

[Guest]

if the rest of those guys on that list sans tannehill didn't say that, i dont know what did

 

 

but the cutler was really good in camp and preseason narrative is one i am going to hang hope on for now

 

Such a fresh and original narrative that we've never heard before.

 

well it kind of is. the other times it was just coaches saying he looked great and was smart and all that. this time there at least were things said about his actual play. the zero or one or whatever interceptions in camp is a definite outlier. he'd usually throw probably 5 or 6 a week (pulled that out of my ass - but whatever the number was it was a lot more than like 1 over all of camp). plus these PFF numbers in a small preseason sample.

 

i'm not arguing that it means anything. i'm arguing that the narrative i'm irrationally hanging my hopes on and referring to here is relatively fresh and original and not like the ones you're referring to.

 

also cutler, while not as great as we hoped when he had an offensive coach and lots of talent around him, seemed to be pretty ok at making lemonade out of lemons in his earlier years when our offense had lots of bums everywhere. and his talent alone means that there will be some good jay games sprinkled in, which is why i refuse to believe that this is a 4-5 win team "at best" like some people are saying right now.

 

that plus some really really good coordinators have me where my expectations, while not high, seem to be higher than most.

I think everyone is really down, but I don't think most are thinking 4-5 wins at best. I mean it is the NFL after all. I don't think any team has a ceiling lower than 6-7 wins.

 

Regarding Jay... In a way I want him to throw picks.... If he's not throwing picks they have probably limited his abilities to make plays and are just grinding out a run-heavy conservative offense that scores little. Obviously that has to be done to an extent, but Jay is gonna Jay if you want to utilize his talents. If you want to neuter his natural talents you might as will have cut him.

[RynoRules]

Acho's contract was terminated today to an "undisclosed illness". Who is going to play defense for these guys?

[jersey cubs fan]

The devil is in the details.

 

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i still <3 jay

[rawaction]

I actually don't think this game is that impossible for the Bears to win. I base this mostly on the "new year, new team, new coaches" theory. The Bears know what they are going to get from the Packers, even though they have no recent history of stopping it. I think missing Jordy Nelson will be big for them, especially early in the year. On the opposite end, I don't think the Packers really know what to expect from the Bears. They can watch old tape of Denver's offense or old tape of the 49ers defense, but I don't think that's really enough. The Bears were really vanilla in preseason on both sides, and were missing their top 3 WRs.

 

The Bears did have plenty of offensive success in 2013 in Trestman's first year, and some on defense also. Obviously, last year they were completely dismantled on both sides by the Packers. But I think a big reason everyone stopped the Bears offense last year was that there was no speed element, no creativity with the playcalling.

 

I read on Pro Football Focus (I think) that about 30% of Brandon Marshall's routes were comeback routes. The Packers sat on this route and picked off a few Cutler passes, IIRC, on this very route. Marshall was too slow to sell the go route, and the Packers were able to not respect the deep route and wait for him to break it off. And most of that route jumping was done by Tramon Williams, who is no longer on the Packers roster. One thing PFF did show was that the Broncos (and Peyton Manning) led the league in yardage on WR screens. Demaryius Thomas has consistently been among the league leaders in screen yardage. The Broncos also run a lot of slant patterns and crossing patterns, typically with some sort of "pick" involved. I think the additions of Kevin White and Eddie Royal (top 15 in WR screen yards) were made to carryout a Broncos-like offense in Chicago. I think we'll see the Bears with a lot more routes going across the field, instead of down the field, giving the Bears receivers a chance to run after the catch. The interesting part will be to see how the Bears let Cutler adjust to mismatches before the snap. Peyton would audible when he had a preferable matchup and send his WRs on a go route, with a 3-step drop. Eddie Royal fits perfectly in the Emanuel Sanders role from Denver last year. I think the Bears will be able to take advantage of Hayward (former nickel now starting outside CB) and both ILBs. So, I look for Royal and Bennett to be big factors.

 

On defense, I heard about these exotic blitzes, but the Bears shown very little of this with the #1 and 2 units on defense. With only 5 active DL, I think we'll see a lot of exotic looks with multiple pass rushing LBs and only 1 or 2 DL on the field at a time. The Bears also have 2 ILBs who both were edge rushers either in college (Jones) or in the pros (McClellin). I think the Bears will be able to put pressure on Rodgers and will send a lot of speed rushers after him all afternoon. The Bears know they can't really cover a team like the Packers, so they may choose to force the action.

 

I don't expect the Bears to win this, but I would expect a tightly contested game into the 4th quarter.

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I expect at least a 21 point game at half.

[Sammy Sofa]

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god i really need to get back into old simpsons

 

i haven't watched regularly in years. i fell off the wagon when they started running like 80% post 2000 episodes in syndication and practically abandoned the old stuff.

 

and i know fxx airs them all the time now

[KaiserCesar]

Raw, you got me interested in this game. At the very least this ends with me drinking more today.