08/27 CUBS (Haren) @ San Francisco (Bumgarner) 2:45 CDT, CSN TV

[Fred Hornkohl]

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/players/head_shot/429717.jpg Dan Haren (8-8) ERA = 3.76, WHIP = 1.14

 

 

vs.

 

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/players/head_shot/518516.jpg Madison Bumgarner (15-6) ERA = 3.02, WHIP = 1.04

 

 

 

 

Go CUBS !!

 

 

 

 

Win , lose or rainout, seanimal will be up to bat for Friday's game vs. Los Angeles.

[sontensei]

Dear Cubs,

Please make MadBum throw 100 pitches by the 4th inning today.

Thanks

Sontensei

[Stu]

Mad Bum and Arrieta have very similar numbers this year. What really strikes me is how crazy affordable Mad Bum is, from FanGraphs:

 

◦2013: $0.8M, 2014: $3.8M, 2015: $6.8M, 2016: $9.8M, 2017: $11.5M

◦2018 Team Option: $12M ($1.5M buyout)

◾2018 option becomes guaranteed with 200 IP in 2017 or 400 IP in 2016-17. Options increase to $14M with top 3 finish in Cy Young vote 2012-17 or to $16M with Cy Young award 2012-17

◦2019 Team Option: $12M ($1.5M buyout)

[itisallpartoftheplan]

Easy W.

[UMFan83]

Mad Bum and Arrieta have very similar numbers this year. What really strikes me is how crazy affordable Mad Bum is, from FanGraphs:

 

◦2013: $0.8M, 2014: $3.8M, 2015: $6.8M, 2016: $9.8M, 2017: $11.5M

◦2018 Team Option: $12M ($1.5M buyout)

◾2018 option becomes guaranteed with 200 IP in 2017 or 400 IP in 2016-17. Options increase to $14M with top 3 finish in Cy Young vote 2012-17 or to $16M with Cy Young award 2012-17

◦2019 Team Option: $12M ($1.5M buyout)

 

Just wanted to confirm that with numbers

 

ERA:

MB: 3.02

JA: 2.22

 

FIP:

MB: 2.85

JA: 2.58

 

K/9:

MB: 9.5

JA: 9.2

 

WHIP:

MB: 1.04

JA: 0.98

 

WAR:

MB: 3.1

JA: 5.5

 

Fairly similar but looks like Jake has been significantly more valuable

[Smack]

Beating Bumgarner to go 6-1 against them for the season is going to break their spirit.

[Stu]

Mad Bum and Arrieta have very similar numbers this year. What really strikes me is how crazy affordable Mad Bum is, from FanGraphs:

 

◦2013: $0.8M, 2014: $3.8M, 2015: $6.8M, 2016: $9.8M, 2017: $11.5M

◦2018 Team Option: $12M ($1.5M buyout)

◾2018 option becomes guaranteed with 200 IP in 2017 or 400 IP in 2016-17. Options increase to $14M with top 3 finish in Cy Young vote 2012-17 or to $16M with Cy Young award 2012-17

◦2019 Team Option: $12M ($1.5M buyout)

 

Just wanted to confirm that with numbers

 

ERA:

MB: 3.02

JA: 2.22

 

FIP:

MB: 2.85

JA: 2.58

 

K/9:

MB: 9.5

JA: 9.2

 

WHIP:

MB: 1.04

JA: 0.98

 

WAR:

MB: 3.1

JA: 5.5

 

Fairly similar but looks like Jake has been significantly more valuable

 

Why the big bump for Jake in WAR? Numbers are pretty similar otherwise

[George Hayduke]

Mad Bum and Arrieta have very similar numbers this year. What really strikes me is how crazy affordable Mad Bum is, from FanGraphs:

 

◦2013: $0.8M, 2014: $3.8M, 2015: $6.8M, 2016: $9.8M, 2017: $11.5M

◦2018 Team Option: $12M ($1.5M buyout)

◾2018 option becomes guaranteed with 200 IP in 2017 or 400 IP in 2016-17. Options increase to $14M with top 3 finish in Cy Young vote 2012-17 or to $16M with Cy Young award 2012-17

◦2019 Team Option: $12M ($1.5M buyout)

 

Just wanted to confirm that with numbers

 

ERA:

MB: 3.02

JA: 2.22

 

FIP:

MB: 2.85

JA: 2.58

 

K/9:

MB: 9.5

JA: 9.2

 

WHIP:

MB: 1.04

JA: 0.98

 

WAR:

MB: 3.1

JA: 5.5

 

Fairly similar but looks like Jake has been significantly more valuable

 

FWIW, if you include the bat and go with fWAR, they're a lot closer. fWAR has MB and JA at 5.2 and 5.0, respectively.

[Guest]

He's using bWAR which is very descriptive. Arrieta's 0.80 edge in ERA explains it. Using fWAR it's closer(4.9 to 4.1).

[Stu]

What is really kind of cool is Mad Bum has hit 5 dongs, most by a pitcher since Big Z, in like '08.

[ctcf]

I do not feel great about this one. Plz be back, Fowler.

[Guest]

bwar makes me feel icky

[Andy]

At least we're finally pitching Haren in a fly ball friendly park.

[UMFan83]

At least we're finally pitching Haren in a fly ball friendly park.

 

This. I'm hoping/expecting a much better start than what we've seen from him so far. Will it be good enough to beat Bumgarner? We will see.

[Guest]

Just realized SF is playing the Cardinals this weekend.

 

AR, who are you rooting for in this one?

[PrimeTime]

Schwarber is catching and Bryant is in RF

 

[Sammys Boombox]

I'm assuming since Fowler PH last night he is truly just getting days offs in a row because he's played so often?

[Thed Hoyerstein]

I'm assuming since Fowler PH last night he is truly just getting days offs in a row because he's played so often?

 

well he did get plunked on his hand the other day - maybe it's difficult for him to throw as opposed to bat?

[PrimeTime]

Bryant trying out RF means possible Baez call up playing 3B?

[Banedon]

Fowler had an X-ray on his shin that turned out negative, so he must be hurting still.

[Guest]

Bryant trying out RF means possible Baez call up playing 3B?

 

I think it means they're facing a LHP and still want to give Fowler another day to ensure he's 100%. It's also a day game after night game so a good opportunity to get Schwarber out of the lineup.

[Banedon]

Bryant trying out RF means possible Baez call up playing 3B?

 

I think it means they're facing a LHP and still want to give Fowler another day to ensure he's 100%. It's also a day game after night game so a good opportunity to get Schwarber out of the lineup.

 

Schwarber is in the lineup. He's catching.

[Cubswin11]

When did Szczur come up/who got sent down?

[Guest]

When did Szczur come up/who got sent down?

Ross went on Family Leave.

[Banedon]

When did Szczur come up/who got sent down?

 

Ross went on emergency family medical leave for 3-7 days yesterday.