2015 trading deadline

[sontensei]

The Cubs are 0.5 games behind the Nationals. 1.5 games behind the Dodgers. I don't think they should urgently trade away their best prospects, but this is a year to get better at the trade deadline. They've already spent 6 starts on Clayton Richard and Dallas Beeler, there's no reason to give 10-12 more to them or similar caliber players.

 

Exactly which is why they need a pitcher even just a journeyman. if they didnt have those 6 beeler / richard starts who knows what the record would be now.

 

the whole "dont sell the future for a wildcard" idea is soo true, but you mean to tell me all of the top say 20 prospects are the future? I think we are seeing a major part of the future at Wrigley already. if it means trading a couple guys who arent contributing this year, (aside from Baez) why dont they do it?

 

Arent they supposed to be restocking with the IFA ? if you ask me anyone who plays C, 1b, 3b in the system can and should be moved if possible, schwarb, bryant rizzo are going no where..

[Ding Dong Johnson]

They made their shortstop cry for nothing.

 

Flores was signed at age 16 to be a met, same as castro as a cub right? they love their team.

 

If Flores crys what would castro do?

Probably beat the [expletive] out of you?

[Guest]

We can pretty easily upgrade the rotation after 8/1, too. There will be pitchers on the market at that point, also.

[SRQCub]

The Cubs are 0.5 games behind the Nationals. 1.5 games behind the Dodgers. I don't think they should urgently trade away their best prospects, but this is a year to get better at the trade deadline. They've already spent 6 starts on Clayton Richard and Dallas Beeler, there's no reason to give 10-12 more to them or similar caliber players.

 

Exactly which is why they need a pitcher even just a journeyman. if they didnt have those 6 beeler / richard starts who knows what the record would be now.

 

the whole "dont sell the future for a wildcard" idea is soo true, but you mean to tell me all of the top say 20 prospects are the future? I think we are seeing a major part of the future at Wrigley already. if it means trading a couple guys who arent contributing this year, (aside from Baez) why dont they do it?

 

Arent they supposed to be restocking with the IFA ? if you ask me anyone who plays C, 1b, 3b in the system can and should be moved if possible, schwarb, bryant rizzo are going no where..

 

I don't disagree that a Mike Leake or Ian Kennedy type of pitcher would be a solid addition to the rotation. And if those guys come at the cost of Castro or a "prospect" like Vogelbach, sure, go for it. I just don't think that making the Wild Card round is a "must" in 2015. If we do, it's gravy. If we don't, 2016 was always going to be the true beginning of contention anyway, right?

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oh boy

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If we don't, 2016 was always going to be the true beginning of contention anyway, right?

 

Unless the Cardinals or Pirates are too good next year too. Or if we have some players we want to try to generate trade value from so we can't sit them. Or if we have some young hitters and they struggle.

 

Then it was always meant to be 2017.

[Guest]

If we don't, 2016 was always going to be the true beginning of contention anyway, right?

 

Unless the Cardinals or Pirates are too good next year too. Or if we have some players we want to try to generate trade value from so we can't sit them. Or if we have some young hitters and they struggle.

 

Then it was always meant to be 2017.

 

When I saw you quote him, I thought it was a joke/sarcasm and thought, "This guy I don't recognize isn't so bad." Then I saw his post and realized he was serious. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

[DiamondMind]

hamels to texas

[Guest]

hamels to texas

 

we're already talking about it

 

in the hamels thread

 

oh, the hamels thread?

 

that's right!

 

Back to the hamels, my friend. You know, there's a little place called Mary Ann's Hamels. The nice thing about that place is Mary Ann gets in the hamels with you.

[toonsterwu]

That Dodgers/Braves/Marlins trade is so confusing in some respects, and it seems like it's not done. I am curious how the pieces fall for Andrew Friedman and Co. in the end, as it seems like a potential bridge deal, aimed at getting them assets to help get other areas filled, while also strengthening their rotation. I'm also curious how this fits the Braves 2017+ plans to give up Alex Wood (did the backing up of his performance this year lead to him getting pushed aside this quick?). Finally, curious what the end pieces are for Latos, because despite all his warts and his supposed clubhouse concerns, he's a solid pitcher.

[SRQCub]

That Dodgers/Braves/Marlins trade is so confusing in some respects, and it seems like it's not done. I am curious how the pieces fall for Andrew Friedman and Co. in the end, as it seems like a potential bridge deal, aimed at getting them assets to help get other areas filled, while also strengthening their rotation. I'm also curious how this fits the Braves 2017+ plans to give up Alex Wood (did the backing up of his performance this year lead to him getting pushed aside this quick?). Finally, curious what the end pieces are for Latos, because despite all his warts and his supposed clubhouse concerns, he's a solid pitcher.

 

Apparently, someone at ESPN is speculating that the Dodgers will try to turn Wood into Price. It was on air, so I don't have a link.

[treebird]

hamels to texas

 

we're already talking about it

 

in the hamels thread

 

oh, the hamels thread?

 

that's right!

 

Back to the hamels, my friend. You know, there's a little place called Mary Ann's Hamels. The nice thing about that place is Mary Ann gets in the hamels with you.

 

v nice

[crazycooter]

FWIW

 

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[sontensei]

They made their shortstop cry for nothing.

 

Flores was signed at age 16 to be a met, same as castro as a cub right? they love their team.

 

If Flores crys what would castro do?

Probably beat the [expletive] out of you?

 

no that makes absolutely no sense.

[sontensei]

 

I don't disagree that a Mike Leake or Ian Kennedy type of pitcher would be a solid addition to the rotation. And if those guys come at the cost of Castro or a "prospect" like Vogelbach, sure, go for it. I just don't think that making the Wild Card round is a "must" in 2015. If we do, it's gravy. If we don't, 2016 was always going to be the true beginning of contention anyway, right?

 

if it costs anyone outside of a Schwarber / Bryant / Russell / Rizzo / Torres / Baez / Soler / Torres / McKinney which it shouldnt then there is no reason in heck that the cubs shouldnt get a guy if for any other reason than to try and get some postseason action, to make the fans happy..

[Splendid Splinter]

 

I don't disagree that a Mike Leake or Ian Kennedy type of pitcher would be a solid addition to the rotation. And if those guys come at the cost of Castro or a "prospect" like Vogelbach, sure, go for it. I just don't think that making the Wild Card round is a "must" in 2015. If we do, it's gravy. If we don't, 2016 was always going to be the true beginning of contention anyway, right?

 

if it costs anyone outside of a Schwarber / Bryant / Russell / Rizzo / Torres / Baez / Soler / Torres / McKinney which it shouldnt then there is no reason in heck that the cubs shouldnt get a guy if for any other reason than to try and get some postseason action, to make the fans happy..

 

 

So.... why did you put a comma after action?

[sontensei]

 

I don't disagree that a Mike Leake or Ian Kennedy type of pitcher would be a solid addition to the rotation. And if those guys come at the cost of Castro or a "prospect" like Vogelbach, sure, go for it. I just don't think that making the Wild Card round is a "must" in 2015. If we do, it's gravy. If we don't, 2016 was always going to be the true beginning of contention anyway, right?

 

if it costs anyone outside of a Schwarber / Bryant / Russell / Rizzo / Torres / Baez / Soler / Torres / McKinney which it shouldnt then there is no reason in heck that the cubs shouldnt get a guy if for any other reason than to try and get some postseason action, to make the fans happy..

 

 

So.... why did you put a comma after action?

 

why do you have nothing to say except some stupid [expletive] about punctuation. this isnt a [expletive] book

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[SRQCub]

No, of course not. But do you like the idea of this lineup facing any of the Cards, Dodgers or Nats?

 

In a five or seven game series? Yes, please.

 

Check where the Royals' offense was about mid-July last year.

 

It was not good, and it only regressed as the season continued. Yes, they certainly hit better in the playoffs, but that's not an indication of what we'd do. Even at their worst, they were a much better offense than we've seen in Chicago this season.

 

I don't mean to sound like I'd prefer not to make the Wild Card. I'm just going to be much less disappointed than many others if we're patient and wait until the offseason to add the pieces we'd need. And if we get something done that helps our chances in the playoffs this year, that's great.

[Sammy Sofa]

The pieces they'll need in the offseason are the same pieces they need right now.

[SRQCub]

The pieces they'll need in the offseason are the same pieces they need right now.

 

In a vacuum, yes.

[Sammy Sofa]

The pieces they'll need in the offseason are the same pieces they need right now.

 

In a vacuum, yes.

 

I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

[ARCubsFan]

The pieces they'll need in the offseason are the same pieces they need right now.

The value of those pieces slightly goes down because you lose a half year of them. Could be the difference between keeping a prospect you like and giving up one you're not so sure on.

[Cubswin11]

The pieces they'll need in the offseason are the same pieces they need right now.

The value of those pieces slightly goes down because you lose a half year of them. Could be the difference between keeping a prospect you like and giving up one you're not so sure on.

And also giving up a chance at a world series

[ARCubsFan]

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Gonna guess Carlos Santana here