5/27 washington (scherzer) @ cubs (the jon lester) 7:05 pm cdt; csn

[sontensei]

Run differential

 

Cardinals +59

Pirates +35

Cubs +1

 

Let's worry about clinging to our lead over the Pirates and getting back ahead of one of the other 2nd-place teams before we worry about the team 5.5 games with a +58 edge in differential.

 

Agreed, June is going to be a tough stretch

 

June 1-3 at Marlins

June 4-7 at Nats

June 9-10 at Tigers

June 11-14 Reds

June 15-16 Indians

June 17-18 at Indians

June 19-21 at Twins

June 22-25 Dodgers

June 26-28 at Cards

 

Hope we can go 16-11 or so in this stretch

[Guest]

Run differential

 

Cardinals +59

Pirates +35

Cubs +1

 

Let's worry about clinging to our lead over the Pirates and getting back ahead of one of the other 2nd-place teams before we worry about the team 5.5 games with a +58 edge in differential.

 

Agreed, June is going to be a tough stretch

 

June 1-3 at Marlins

June 4-7 at Nats

June 9-10 at Tigers

June 11-14 Reds

June 15-16 Indians

June 17-18 at Indians

June 19-21 at Twins

June 22-25 Dodgers

June 26-28 at Cards

 

Hope we can go 16-11 or so in this stretch

lol - "Man is our schedule tough this month. Look at all the great teams we are going to play! I hope we can play at a 96 win pace against them."

[sontensei]

Run differential

 

Cardinals +59

Pirates +35

Cubs +1

 

Let's worry about clinging to our lead over the Pirates and getting back ahead of one of the other 2nd-place teams before we worry about the team 5.5 games with a +58 edge in differential.

 

Agreed, June is going to be a tough stretch

 

June 1-3 at Marlins

June 4-7 at Nats

June 9-10 at Tigers

June 11-14 Reds

June 15-16 Indians

June 17-18 at Indians

June 19-21 at Twins

June 22-25 Dodgers

June 26-28 at Cards

 

Hope we can go 16-11 or so in this stretch

lol - "Man is our schedule tough this month. Look at all the great times we are going to play! I hope we can play at a 96 win pace against them."

 

Thats what it will take to stay in the race man the Pirates are getting Hot Stl is going no-where and the wild card (mets, giants, etc) arent either

[Guest]

I'm not sure what to say if you think we have to play at a 96 win pace to stay in the wild card race. In June.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not sure what to say if you think we have to play at a 96 win pace to stay in the wild card race. In June.

hey man, nobody else is going anywhere. There's going to be a half dozen 95 game winners and if the Cubs aren't at 96 they won't stand a chance.

 

It's a fact.

[sontensei]

I'm not sure what to say if you think we have to play at a 96 win pace to stay in the wild card race. In June.

hey man, nobody else is going anywhere. There's going to be a half dozen 95 game winners and if the Cubs aren't at 96 they won't stand a chance.

 

It's a fact.

 

88 win season wont get a wild card spot. My point is they need a real strong June going into the Hot Stove period if we (as fans) expect them to go hard at making the team better in 2015. If we are 5 under.500 by end of june, i doubt the FO is going to be aggressive for 2015. If we are still in the thick of the race then i can see them doing something. June is going to be a big month for the 2015 season either way you argue the point. its a fact.

[Guest]

jesus christ STOP [expletive] POSTING

[Guest]

[expletive] king of the strawman over here

[Guest]

I thought about looking up the records of all the wild card teams since they put in the play in game...but figured it wouldn't make any difference, anyway.

[CubInOK]

I'm not sure what to say if you think we have to play at a 96 win pace to stay in the wild card race. In June.

hey man, nobody else is going anywhere. There's going to be a half dozen 95 game winners and if the Cubs aren't at 96 they won't stand a chance.

 

It's a fact.

 

88 win season wont get a wild card spot. My point is they need a real strong June going into the Hot Stove period if we (as fans) expect them to go hard at making the team better in 2015. If we are 5 under.500 by end of june, i doubt the FO is going to be aggressive for 2015. If we are still in the thick of the race then i can see them doing something. June is going to be a big month for the 2015 season either way you argue the point. its a fact.

A quick check of Fangraphs' playoff odds says they expect us to win 85 games and have a coin flip for a playoff spot. Based on that, 88 wins will very likely get a playoff spot.

 

So start more threads.

[Guest]

Damnit...now I'm thinking through the math on how unlikely it would be to have six out of sixteen teams all finish with 96 wins or better.

[Derwood]

Well we know that the Mets, Giants, Pirates and Cards will have zero tough games in June, so....

[sontensei]

First of all, St. Louis and the Nationals are the best 2 teams in the NL they will win each others respective division

 

As it stands now we are competing with the Mets, Giants, Pirates, Dodgers -- i find it hard to imagine that one wild card does not go to the 2nd place team in the NL west.

 

That leaves the mets, pirates, and cubs.

 

We have the advantage over these guys that when the heart of our lineup is hot they can score quite a bit, however the Mets and Pirates BOTH have way better pitching.

 

Look at the History of baseball, great pitching usually (not always) beats great hitting.

 

The team needs to remain strong in June, you go ahead and tell me if they go 12-15 in june that the FO will still make moves as buyers "going for it" i doubt it.

 

and where did the 96 wins come from? Who said that?

 

Ill stand by my point the cubs need to play VERY STRONG in June.. hopefully they dont have the typical cubs June Swoon.

[Guest]

lol @ thinking the cards are a better team than LA

[Guest]

I'm not sure what to say if you think we have to play at a 96 win pace to stay in the wild card race. In June.

hey man, nobody else is going anywhere. There's going to be a half dozen 95 game winners and if the Cubs aren't at 96 they won't stand a chance.

 

It's a fact.

 

88 win season wont get a wild card spot. My point is they need a real strong June going into the Hot Stove period if we (as fans) expect them to go hard at making the team better in 2015. If we are 5 under.500 by end of june, i doubt the FO is going to be aggressive for 2015. If we are still in the thick of the race then i can see them doing something. June is going to be a big month for the 2015 season either way you argue the point. its a fact.

 

WC spots (first two are NL, second two are AL and I included what would have been the 2nd WC before there was one):

 

2014: 88, 88, 89, 88

2013: 94, 90, 92, 92

2012: 94, 88, 93, 93

2011: 90, 89, 91, 90

2010: 91, 90, 90, 89

2009: 92, 88, 95, 87

2008: 90, 89, 95, 89

2007: 89, 89, 94, 88

 

So in the last eight years in the NL, 90 wins has gotten the second WC each time and only twice in the AL has 90 wins not gotten the second WC.

[sontensei]

lol @ thinking the cards are a better team than LA

 

Its in respect to the division Cards are far and away best in the NL Central, Nats in the East.

 

I wouldnt sell the Giants short in the west.

[jersey cubs fan]

The team needs to remain strong in June, you go ahead and tell me if they go 12-15 in june that the FO will still make moves as buyers "going for it" i doubt it.

 

Ill stand by my point the cubs need to play VERY STRONG in June.. hopefully they dont have the typical cubs June Swoon.

 

You were talking about 16-11 before and now 12-15. There is an entire middle ground there which is where the Cubs are likely to remain for much of the year. They could go 1-2 this weekend and even if they do go 12-15 in June, that would leave them at 38-38. They can turn around and win 7 straight to start July and completely blow up your theory here. They don't need to be VERY STRONG in June in order to remain competitive and willing to be buyers by the end of July.

[sontensei]

The team needs to remain strong in June, you go ahead and tell me if they go 12-15 in june that the FO will still make moves as buyers "going for it" i doubt it.

 

Ill stand by my point the cubs need to play VERY STRONG in June.. hopefully they dont have the typical cubs June Swoon.

 

You were talking about 16-11 before and now 12-15. There is an entire middle ground there which is where the Cubs are likely to remain for much of the year. They could go 1-2 this weekend and even if they do go 12-15 in June, that would leave them at 38-38. They can turn around and win 7 straight to start July and completely blow up your theory here. They don't need to be VERY STRONG in June in order to remain competitive and willing to be buyers by the end of July.

 

Alright lets revisit this thread on 7/31 and see what happened. if they are .500 going into the deadline, it would be stupid to trade away for rental players.

[jersey cubs fan]

The team needs to remain strong in June, you go ahead and tell me if they go 12-15 in june that the FO will still make moves as buyers "going for it" i doubt it.

 

Ill stand by my point the cubs need to play VERY STRONG in June.. hopefully they dont have the typical cubs June Swoon.

 

You were talking about 16-11 before and now 12-15. There is an entire middle ground there which is where the Cubs are likely to remain for much of the year. They could go 1-2 this weekend and even if they do go 12-15 in June, that would leave them at 38-38. They can turn around and win 7 straight to start July and completely blow up your theory here. They don't need to be VERY STRONG in June in order to remain competitive and willing to be buyers by the end of July.

 

Alright lets revisit this thread on 7/31 and see what happened. if they are .500 going into the deadline, it would be stupid to trade away for rental players.

 

are you affiliated with comedy central?

[treebird]

The team needs to remain strong in June, you go ahead and tell me if they go 12-15 in june that the FO will still make moves as buyers "going for it" i doubt it.

 

Ill stand by my point the cubs need to play VERY STRONG in June.. hopefully they dont have the typical cubs June Swoon.

 

You were talking about 16-11 before and now 12-15. There is an entire middle ground there which is where the Cubs are likely to remain for much of the year. They could go 1-2 this weekend and even if they do go 12-15 in June, that would leave them at 38-38. They can turn around and win 7 straight to start July and completely blow up your theory here. They don't need to be VERY STRONG in June in order to remain competitive and willing to be buyers by the end of July.

 

Alright lets revisit this thread on 7/31 and see what happened. if they are .500 going into the deadline, it would be stupid to trade away for rental players.

 

are you affiliated with comedy central?

 

nice

[ScrubMD]

You guys can laugh all you want, but 16-11 is better than 12-15 and that's just baseball history.

[sontensei]

The team needs to remain strong in June, you go ahead and tell me if they go 12-15 in june that the FO will still make moves as buyers "going for it" i doubt it.

 

Ill stand by my point the cubs need to play VERY STRONG in June.. hopefully they dont have the typical cubs June Swoon.

 

You were talking about 16-11 before and now 12-15. There is an entire middle ground there which is where the Cubs are likely to remain for much of the year. They could go 1-2 this weekend and even if they do go 12-15 in June, that would leave them at 38-38. They can turn around and win 7 straight to start July and completely blow up your theory here. They don't need to be VERY STRONG in June in order to remain competitive and willing to be buyers by the end of July.

 

Alright lets revisit this thread on 7/31 and see what happened. if they are .500 going into the deadline, it would be stupid to trade away for rental players.

 

are you affiliated with comedy central?

 

nice

 

Apparently I have some kind of Crystal Ball! Tell me JUNE isnt VERY important. or rather tell Jed...

 

From Sun Times Article

 

How the team performs during this stretch of four contenders in five series, could determine how quickly they can – or are willing to – make their next move.

 

But indications are they have the flexibility to handle some salary (Zobrist makes $7.5 million in a walk year).

 

“Absolutely,” Hoyer said. “Both from a financial-resource standpoint and obviously through good drafting and good international signings, and good trades, I think we’ve built up a farm system that can help us fill a hole if we need to fill a hole.”

 

All Maddon and his players have to do now is prove in the next two weeks those holes are worth filling.

 

“We struck early in the trade market when we were sellers [the last three years], and I’m not here to say we wouldn’t do the same thing if we’re buyers,” Hoyer said. “But I do think you have to be at a place in the season where you feel like, `OK, we’ve established that we’re going to be in the race, and we have clear weaknesses that you can address.’ “

 

http://chicago.suntimes.com/baseball/7/71/646178/cubs-targeting-ben-zobrist

[Guest]

You were talking about 16-11 before and now 12-15. There is an entire middle ground there which is where the Cubs are likely to remain for much of the year. They could go 1-2 this weekend and even if they do go 12-15 in June, that would leave them at 38-38. They can turn around and win 7 straight to start July and completely blow up your theory here. They don't need to be VERY STRONG in June in order to remain competitive and willing to be buyers by the end of July.

 

Alright lets revisit this thread on 7/31 and see what happened. if they are .500 going into the deadline, it would be stupid to trade away for rental players.

 

are you affiliated with comedy central?

 

nice

 

Apparently I have some kind of Crystal Ball! Tell me JUNE isnt VERY important. or rather tell Jed...

 

From Sun Times Article

 

How the team performs during this stretch of four contenders in five series, could determine how quickly they can – or are willing to – make their next move.

 

But indications are they have the flexibility to handle some salary (Zobrist makes $7.5 million in a walk year).

 

“Absolutely,” Hoyer said. “Both from a financial-resource standpoint and obviously through good drafting and good international signings, and good trades, I think we’ve built up a farm system that can help us fill a hole if we need to fill a hole.”

 

All Maddon and his players have to do now is prove in the next two weeks those holes are worth filling.

 

“We struck early in the trade market when we were sellers [the last three years], and I’m not here to say we wouldn’t do the same thing if we’re buyers,” Hoyer said. “But I do think you have to be at a place in the season where you feel like, `OK, we’ve established that we’re going to be in the race, and we have clear weaknesses that you can address.’ “

 

http://chicago.suntimes.com/baseball/7/71/646178/cubs-targeting-ben-zobrist

yes, because he's saying that if they don't play 16-11 in June they'll be out of the race. Exactly like what you said. I concede.

[DiamondMind]

why cant this forum discuss things without sarcasm and being snarky

[Banedon]

why cant this forum discuss things without sarcasm and being snarky

 

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