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Coghlan played IF his whole life up until basically AAA which is probably why he looks so goofy playing OF. He was a heck of a third baseman in college and was part of the reason he was drafted in the first round. However, his IF stats in the minors, where he played mostly 2B, look to be below average for the most part. Nevertheless, it seems that the main reason he was moved to the OF was because Uggla was blocking his way.

 

Oh, did you know him in college?

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I imagine OleMissCub probably followed Coghlan at Ole Miss a bit. He is right about Coghlan's history - he was blocked by Uggla(nem, he wasn't blocked at 3rd ... when he came up Emilio Bonifacio was their 3rd baseman that year.) They tried him in CF, I think, which was a mistake, and he's been a corner OF/util type guy when his bat was decent enough. Off the top, I don't think the reviews of Coghlan at 3rd base in the minors was all that great.

 

* I'm mildly curious why Coghlan was never tried at 3rd, since OleMissCub thought he was a good 3rd baseman in college. My recollection was mediocre reviews of efforts to try him at 3rd i the minors, but I don't follow the Marlins that closely. Looking at the Marlins history then, Bonifacio was the starter at 3rd. An argument for defense wouldn't make a ton of sense, with Uggla at 2nd ... ? They had Matt Dominguez in the system at the time, but he was only entering A+ in 2009, too far away that a short term move to have Coghlan at 3rd wouldn't make sense. Anyhow, probably will forget about this soon.

 

I buy the bat being a useful/solid bat, and I think he's a decent short term starter who can almost be a fit at any point in the lineup. Long run, I think he should be utilized as more of a super-util guy.

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I imagine OleMissCub probably followed Coghlan at Ole Miss a bit. He is right about Coghlan's history - he was blocked by Uggla(nem, he wasn't blocked at 3rd ... when he came up Emilio Bonifacio was their 3rd baseman that year.) They tried him in CF, I think, which was a mistake, and he's been a corner OF/util type guy when his bat was decent enough. Off the top, I don't think the reviews of Coghlan at 3rd base in the minors was all that great.

 

* I'm mildly curious why Coghlan was never tried at 3rd, since OleMissCub thought he was a good 3rd baseman in college. My recollection was mediocre reviews of efforts to try him at 3rd i the minors, but I don't follow the Marlins that closely. Looking at the Marlins history then, Bonifacio was the starter at 3rd. An argument for defense wouldn't make a ton of sense, with Uggla at 2nd ... ? They had Matt Dominguez in the system at the time, but he was only entering A+ in 2009, too far away that a short term move to have Coghlan at 3rd wouldn't make sense. Anyhow, probably will forget about this soon.

 

I buy the bat being a useful/solid bat, and I think he's a decent short term starter who can almost be a fit at any point in the lineup. Long run, I think he should be utilized as more of a super-util guy.

 

I thought I just read that he was in the Marlin's system when Cabrera took third, then Uggla blocked him at second. I don't think they were ever on the same team all at once, but that was the article's rationale for him moving to OF

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Coghlan is a 2nd division starter and the Cubs are now a 1st division team.

 

In glad he's around but happier he won't be getting a majority of the starts relatively soon.

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Coghlan is a 2nd division starter and the Cubs are now a 1st division team.

 

this is just silly

 

all great teams don't have all starters of a certain level of quality or whatever the hell you're trying to say with those arbitrary labels

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Coghlan is a 2nd division starter and the Cubs are now a 1st division team.

 

this is just silly

 

all great teams don't have all starters of a certain level of quality or whatever the hell you're trying to say with those arbitrary labels

 

See: Dodgers 3B situation.

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Coghlan is a 2nd division starter and the Cubs are now a 1st division team.

 

this is just silly

 

all great teams don't have all starters of a certain level of quality or whatever the hell you're trying to say with those arbitrary labels

 

At the end of the day Coghlan is a solid MLB player on a team that doesnt have super weak 2b and 3b...

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Okay, I'll clarify my statement. If Russell pushes someone to 3rd and Bryant plays LF, then the Cubs will be in a great situation playing Coghlan at DH/4th outfielder.

 

That's a borderline miracle compared to our lineup just a few years ago:

 

David DeJesus, RF

Darwin Barney, 2B

Starlin Castro, SS

Bryan LaHair, 1B

Alfonso Soriano, LF

Ian Stewart, RF

Marlon Byrd, CF

Geovany Soto, C

Ryan Dempster, P

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David DeJesus, RF

Darwin Barney, 2B

Starlin Castro, SS

Bryan LaHair, 1B

Alfonso Soriano, LF

Ian Stewart, RF

Marlon Byrd, CF

Geovany Soto, C

Ryan Dempster, P

 

*starts sobbing uncontrollably*

 

WHY WOULD YOU SHOW US THIS!?

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David DeJesus, RF

Darwin Barney, 2B

Starlin Castro, SS

Bryan LaHair, 1B

Alfonso Soriano, LF

Ian Stewart, RF

Marlon Byrd, CF

Geovany Soto, C

Ryan Dempster, P

 

*starts sobbing uncontrollably*

 

WHY WOULD YOU SHOW US THIS!?

 

Take a look at David's signature and turn those to tears of joy.

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Okay, I'll clarify my statement. If Russell pushes someone to 3rd and Bryant plays LF, then the Cubs will be in a great situation playing Coghlan at DH/4th outfielder.

 

That's a borderline miracle compared to our lineup just a few years ago:

 

David DeJesus, RF

Darwin Barney, 2B

Starlin Castro, SS

Bryan LaHair, 1B

Alfonso Soriano, LF

Ian Stewart, RF

Marlon Byrd, CF

Geovany Soto, C

Ryan Dempster, P

 

well, yeah. that's a way different thing.

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Okay, I'll clarify my statement. If Russell pushes someone to 3rd and Bryant plays LF, then the Cubs will be in a great situation playing Coghlan at DH/4th outfielder.

 

That's a borderline miracle compared to our lineup just a few years ago:

 

David DeJesus, RF

Darwin Barney, 2B

Starlin Castro, SS

Bryan LaHair, 1B

Alfonso Soriano, LF

Ian Stewart, RF

Marlon Byrd, CF

Geovany Soto, C

Ryan Dempster, P

 

well, yeah. that's a way different thing.

 

It was definitely hitting me yesterday that the "Rizzo, Castro, who cares for two innings" lineup is past.

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Okay, I'll clarify my statement. If Russell pushes someone to 3rd and Bryant plays LF, then the Cubs will be in a great situation playing Coghlan at DH/4th outfielder.

 

That's a borderline miracle compared to our lineup just a few years ago:

 

David DeJesus, RF

Darwin Barney, 2B

Starlin Castro, SS

Bryan LaHair, 1B

Alfonso Soriano, LF

Ian Stewart, RF

Marlon Byrd, CF

Geovany Soto, C

Ryan Dempster, P

 

well, yeah. that's a way different thing.

 

It was definitely hitting me yesterday that the "Rizzo, Castro, who cares for two innings" lineup is past.

 

It's definitely still weird for me. Bryant will probably make it downright bizarre.

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Okay, I'll clarify my statement. If Russell pushes someone to 3rd and Bryant plays LF, then the Cubs will be in a great situation playing Coghlan at DH/4th outfielder.

 

That's a borderline miracle compared to our lineup just a few years ago:

 

David DeJesus, RF

Darwin Barney, 2B

Starlin Castro, SS

Bryan LaHair, 1B

Alfonso Soriano, LF

Ian Stewart, RF

Marlon Byrd, CF

Geovany Soto, C

Ryan Dempster, P

 

well, yeah. that's a way different thing.

 

It was definitely hitting me yesterday that the "Rizzo, Castro, who cares for two innings" lineup is past.

 

It's definitely still weird for me. Bryant will probably make it downright bizarre.

 

once bryant is up, castro is nearly in the who cares part for me (not at all that i don't like him, either)

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It was definitely hitting me yesterday that the "Rizzo, Castro, who cares for two innings" lineup is past.

 

also it kind of hit me the other night that along with that stuff about not having a winning record or a share of first place this late since 2009 comes the fact that neither rizzo or castro have ever done those things. like this is literally the first time castro or rizzo have been on a team with a winning record past like april 5th or something.

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I kinda want to go back to Soler in the 2 spot once Bryant is up just for the insane lineup balance.

 

Fowler

Soler

Rizzo

Bryant

Coghlan

Castro

Montero

P

Contra

 

S, R, L, R, L, R, L, ?, S

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I don't know; there's still only 3 guys in the lineup that I really care about seeing in Castro, Rizzo and Soler. Everyone else is just sorta filler in terms of me not caring if I see them hit or not. Once Bryant and Russell are up...hot damn.
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I don't know; there's still only 3 guys in the lineup that I really care about seeing in Castro, Rizzo and Soler. Everyone else is just sorta filler in terms of me not caring if I see them hit or not. Once Bryant and Russell are up...hot damn.

 

yeah, but what used to be black holes are now filled with some level of adequacy which makes a big difference.

 

also fowler is cool you should watch him too. always a good AB.

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I don't know; there's still only 3 guys in the lineup that I really care about seeing in Castro, Rizzo and Soler. Everyone else is just sorta filler in terms of me not caring if I see them hit or not. Once Bryant and Russell are up...hot damn.

 

I feel like you would like Dexter Fowler if you gave him a chance.

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I don't know; there's still only 3 guys in the lineup that I really care about seeing in Castro, Rizzo and Soler. Everyone else is just sorta filler in terms of me not caring if I see them hit or not. Once Bryant and Russell are up...hot damn.

 

alcantara isn't as exciting, but he was a top 50 prospect at midseason last year, and his development continues to be pretty important to the cubs' future.

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I don't dislike the guy; I'm just willing to go use the bathroom or get a snack if he's up to bat.

 

that's a risky ass proposition with soler/rizzo/bryant coming up man

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I don't know; there's still only 3 guys in the lineup that I really care about seeing in Castro, Rizzo and Soler. Everyone else is just sorta filler in terms of me not caring if I see them hit or not. Once Bryant and Russell are up...hot damn.

 

alcantara isn't as exciting, but he was a top 50 prospect at midseason last year, and his development continues to be pretty important to the cubs' future.

 

As a supersub, sure.

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I don't dislike the guy; I'm just willing to go use the bathroom or get a snack if he's up to bat.

 

correct this immediately, he's worth watching

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