NFL 2015 Offseason

[shnsajax]

Wow looks like 2014 draft pick ILB Chris Borland is retiring. 49ers are having just a brutal offseason.

 

People would rather retire than play for that front office.

[Guest]

You know, at least guys like Patrick Willis and Jake Locker had gotten millions before they retired early. Borland didn't even get a million last year and he's retiring.

 

Obviously you got to wonder if this is a trend and now the NFL will react.

[Banedon]

Yep....really interesting decision.

 

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12496480/san-francisco-49ers-linebacker-chris-borland-retires-head-injury-concerns

 

I always figured the NFL would start having trouble with kids not growing up playing football due to concerns of parents, but didn't expect players to quit like this.

[Derwood]

Yep....really interesting decision.

 

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12496480/san-francisco-49ers-linebacker-chris-borland-retires-head-injury-concerns

 

I always figured the NFL would start having trouble with kids not growing up playing football due to concerns of parents, but didn't expect players to quit like this.

 

A starting lineman at University of Michigan just left the team before his senior year. Not quite the same thing, but he was going to be a starter and might have had a shot at the NFL. I wonder if a small percentage of younger players are starting to get spooked by the long term health concerns

[jersey cubs fan]

Yep....really interesting decision.

 

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12496480/san-francisco-49ers-linebacker-chris-borland-retires-head-injury-concerns

 

I always figured the NFL would start having trouble with kids not growing up playing football due to concerns of parents, but didn't expect players to quit like this.

 

A starting lineman at University of Michigan just left the team before his senior year. Not quite the same thing, but he was going to be a starter and might have had a shot at the NFL. I wonder if a small percentage of younger players are starting to get spooked by the long term health concerns

 

Guys have voluntarily left the sport for health reasons for decades now. The expectation of becoming crippled and dying young has always been there. I think the headlines are a little different but I'm not sure how much the underlying story has changed.

[Banedon]

Yep....really interesting decision.

 

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/12496480/san-francisco-49ers-linebacker-chris-borland-retires-head-injury-concerns

 

I always figured the NFL would start having trouble with kids not growing up playing football due to concerns of parents, but didn't expect players to quit like this.

 

A starting lineman at University of Michigan just left the team before his senior year. Not quite the same thing, but he was going to be a starter and might have had a shot at the NFL. I wonder if a small percentage of younger players are starting to get spooked by the long term health concerns

 

Guys have voluntarily left the sport for health reasons for decades now. The expectation of becoming crippled and dying young has always been there. I think the headlines are a little different but I'm not sure how much the underlying story has changed.

 

I don't recall one like this though. Without doing any research at all, it seems that most of the people that have left the sport have been around for a least a few years, and have had some kind of injury history leading up to it, like Patrick Willis, or just haven't had the expected success, like Jake Locker. This guy had one suspected, but undiagnosed concussion since joining the NFL a year ago and decided to quit based on fear of future injury. That seems to be very unique.

[RynoRules]

I certainly don't recall this many high-profile players departing for health reasons in the same offseason. Might be an outlier - we will see.

[UK1679666180]

You know, at least guys like Patrick Willis and Jake Locker gotten millions before they retired early. Borland didn't even get a million last year and he's retiring.

 

Obviously you got to wonder if this is a trend and now the NFL will react.

 

It's a very smart move. 24yo, degree from a strong academic institution, 650k signing bonus, any salary from endorsements, card shows, and his base salary from one year he's off to a good start in life.

 

More would be smart to do so.

[Smack]

You know, at least guys like Patrick Willis and Jake Locker gotten millions before they retired early. Borland didn't even get a million last year and he's retiring.

 

Obviously you got to wonder if this is a trend and now the NFL will react.

 

It's a very smart move. 24yo, degree from a strong academic institution, 650k signing bonus, any salary from endorsements, card shows, and his base salary from one year he's off to a good start in life.

 

More would be smart to do so.

 

Do you get to keep all of the signing bonus if you quit before the contract is over? Aren't rookie contracts 3 year deals?

[ctcf]

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

Chris Borland was scheduled to make $530K this year, plus $10K workout bonus. Not many jobs pay 24-year-olds $540K for 6 months of work.

 

Apparently he decided to engage his inner Darren Rovell mode this morning.

[sneakypower]

Adam Schefter is a shameless errand boy

[jersey cubs fan]

You know, at least guys like Patrick Willis and Jake Locker gotten millions before they retired early. Borland didn't even get a million last year and he's retiring.

 

Obviously you got to wonder if this is a trend and now the NFL will react.

 

It's a very smart move. 24yo, degree from a strong academic institution, 650k signing bonus, any salary from endorsements, card shows, and his base salary from one year he's off to a good start in life.

 

More would be smart to do so.

 

Do you get to keep all of the signing bonus if you quit before the contract is over? Aren't rookie contracts 3 year deals?

 

If you retire due to injury issues, I think you can keep it. And a concussion, even if "undiagnosed", is probably not something the NFL wants to be labeling as a non-injury at this point in time.

[Banedon]

Florio getting in on the stupid.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/ZLOIhbe.jpg

 

 

Like it was pointed out on twitter....Schefter ignores criticism, while Florio doubles down on the stupid.

[UK1679666180]

You know, at least guys like Patrick Willis and Jake Locker gotten millions before they retired early. Borland didn't even get a million last year and he's retiring.

 

Obviously you got to wonder if this is a trend and now the NFL will react.

 

It's a very smart move. 24yo, degree from a strong academic institution, 650k signing bonus, any salary from endorsements, card shows, and his base salary from one year he's off to a good start in life.

 

More would be smart to do so.

 

Do you get to keep all of the signing bonus if you quit before the contract is over? Aren't rookie contracts 3 year deals?

 

If you retire due to injury issues, I think you can keep it. And a concussion, even if "undiagnosed", is probably not something the NFL wants to be labeling as a non-injury at this point in time.

 

It's not a can of worms the League wants at this point. They're not in a position to defend preemptive actions against future concussions. Honestly, if I'm 24 with all the data on head trauma and I feel I've had concussions that I would do the same.

[RynoRules]

Florio getting in on the stupid.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/ZLOIhbe.jpg

 

 

Like it was pointed out on twitter....Schefter ignores criticism, while Florio doubles down on the stupid.

 

That whole conversation was misguided - both sides.

[ctcf]

What the [expletive]? What was Florio's original point even supposed to be??? That Boland shouldn't quit because coal miners and soldiers get paid less more for more danger?

[jersey cubs fan]

Florio getting in on the stupid.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/ZLOIhbe.jpg

 

 

Like it was pointed out on twitter....Schefter ignores criticism, while Florio doubles down on the stupid.

 

I think Ufford was a little presumptuous to assume the military angle. The fact is there are much more dangerous jobs with much less compensation. I don't see what is so stupid about pointing it out. The media hysteria over concussions has gone a little overboard, but at the same time the water carrying of the NFL by Florio, Schefter, King and others have been gross.

[sneakypower]

What the [expletive]? What was Florio's original point even supposed to be??? That Boland shouldn't quit because coal miners and soldiers get paid less more for more danger?

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[RynoRules]

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[ctcf]

MY UNCLE GOT DECAPITATED IN A COAL MINE, HOW DARE YOU TURN DOWN THAT NFL CONTRACT

[RynoRules]

Florio getting in on the stupid.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/ZLOIhbe.jpg

 

 

Like it was pointed out on twitter....Schefter ignores criticism, while Florio doubles down on the stupid.

 

I think Ufford was a little presumptuous to assume the military angle. The fact is there are much more dangerous jobs with much less compensation. I don't see what is so stupid about pointing it out. The media hysteria over concussions has gone a little overboard, but at the same time the water carrying of the NFL by Florio, Schefter, King and others have been gross.

 

That was my point as well. It looked to me like Ufford was baiting him or putting words in his mouth.

[ctcf]

That awkward moment where even Jon Heyman tells you you're being a doofus:

 

Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS

@AdamSchefter in not many jobs are 24-year-olds risking their long-term health, either

[Banedon]

Florio getting in on the stupid.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/ZLOIhbe.jpg

 

 

Like it was pointed out on twitter....Schefter ignores criticism, while Florio doubles down on the stupid.

 

I think Ufford was a little presumptuous to assume the military angle. The fact is there are much more dangerous jobs with much less compensation. I don't see what is so stupid about pointing it out. The media hysteria over concussions has gone a little overboard, but at the same time the water carrying of the NFL by Florio, Schefter, King and others have been gross.

 

Not at all defending Ufford...he ws definitely presumptious. But Florio's first tweet was dumb, and then doubled down on it to "defend" himself.

[Banedon]

That awkward moment where even Jon Heyman tells you you're being a doofus:

 

Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS

@AdamSchefter in not many jobs are 24-year-olds risking their long-term health, either

 

Brian Hartline also replied, questioning the assertion that NFL players only work for 6 months.

[RynoRules]

Assuming you are fully informed of the risks, it becomes a personal choice. This notion that people should be influenced or governed somehow by the fact that there are other risky jobs is nonsense.