Russell Martin

[jersey cubs fan]

@pgammo Told Toronto got Martin for "McCann money"

 

Whelp, they can have him at that price.

 

Tired of this refrain.

 

You are upset the Cubs didn't beat 5yr/$80mil?

it's not your money

[Guest]

5/82 for Martin

[Smack]

5/82 for Martin

 

Plus he's from Toronto. Pretty nice homecoming for him.

[jersey cubs fan]

5/82 for Martin

 

Plus he's from Toronto. Pretty nice homecoming for him.

 

I didn't know he was Canadian, now I am glad.

[Guest]

5/82 for Martin

I would not have been happy with that contract.

 

Yoga or no yoga, there is a really high probability of having 1-2 years of dead money on that deal.

[Elrhino]

@pgammo Told Toronto got Martin for "McCann money"

 

Whelp, they can have him at that price.

 

Tired of this refrain.

 

You are upset the Cubs didn't beat 5yr/$80mil?

 

I would rather have Martin at that price than pay Shields like an ace.

 

Cubs absolutely have to go all in for Lester now, regardless of the price. No excuses.

[sneakypower]

i did keep saying he was getting McCann money

 

btw, FG had 5/90 estimate on Hanley...i'd kinda love to do that and then just make a bunch of weird trades

[XZero771679666304]

This is disappointing, but like Kyle, more because I just want the Cubs to get something rather than being a huge fan of signing Russell Martin. At that price, it probably wasn't worth it.

 

Maybe they can swing a trade for Montero.

[Guest]

Grandal?

[jersey cubs fan]

Grandal?

 

Is that 1,000 grundles?

[Elrhino]

@pgammo Told Toronto got Martin for "McCann money"

 

Whelp, they can have him at that price.

 

Tired of this refrain.

 

You are upset the Cubs didn't beat 5yr/$80mil?

Basically if it's just an extra year at the same rate we were discussing for a four year deal I'd be a little annoyed, but it really comes down to what else they do. If we have a clean sweep of missing FA over a bunch of extra one years or minimal cost/year figures I'll be definitely disappointed.

 

 

We just can't expect to compete on the open market with the free spending teams like the Toronto Blue Jays who are willing to (potentially) eat a bad contract year in 2019 to upgrade a current roster weakness to compete in 2015-2016.

Edited November 17, 2014 by Elrhino

[imb]

can we have dioner back plz he was a cool fatman

[Cubswin11]

Maybe they can swing a trade for Montero.

That's what I'm hoping

[Cubbie Swagger]

That extra year was really enough for Martin to prefer to play for the Blue Jays?

 

Whatever. We just saved a bunch of cash that we can spend elsewhere.

 

Plus... Schwarber.

[Guest]

I wonder what the difference would be after taking into account the tax stuff.

[abuck1220]

that's crazy money for martin, but they better just push all that $ into the pile they have waiting for lester.

[Guest]

that's crazy money for martin, but they better just push all that $ into the pile they have waiting for lester.

 

 

that's basically my feeling. better get more aggressive on the other guys now with the extra $15-16M.

[Elrhino]

The pursuit of Martin had me reading up on pitch framing to the point that I'm pretty convinced that Castillo's is a major problem for us.

 

Please get Montero, if possible

 

 

Seriously, does it not bother people that really, really smart and data driven front offices seem to value it a lot?

[XZero771679666304]

that's crazy money for martin, but they better just push all that $ into the pile they have waiting for lester.

 

 

that's basically my feeling. better get more aggressive on the other guys now with the extra $15-16M.

 

Well, minus whatever they have to pay the catcher I'm still assuming that they'll get.

[d_money]

that's crazy money for martin, but they better just push all that $ into the pile they have waiting for lester.

They can add it to the Tanaka money pile

[sneakypower]

The pursuit of Martin had me reading up on pitch framing to the point that I'm pretty convinced that Castillo's is a major problem for us.

 

Please get Montero, if possible

 

 

Seriously, does it not bother people that really, really smart and data driven front offices seem to value it a lot?

we've still got this guy

http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/SamardzijaBall.gif.opt_.gif

 

 

http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/samardzijaball.png

 

[Guest]

Ugh.

[Cubswin11]

We're going to get nothing good again, aren't we? Because we either didn't go an extra year or offer an extra $5-10 mil a year. I'm not saying Martin was necessarily that guy to do it for, but it seems like we'll be in the same boat with Lester, Scherzer, etc. within a few weeks from now when they sign.

[XZero771679666304]

We're going to get nothing good again, aren't we? Because we either didn't go an extra year or offer an extra $5-10 mil a year. I'm not saying Martin was necessarily that guy to do it for, but it seems like we'll be in the same boat with Lester, Scherzer, etc. within a few weeks from now when they sign.

 

I'm pretty certain that we'll get Lester. Beyond that, I don't know.

[Fro]

I'm not sold on Montero... think we can get someone cheaper who knows the pitch framing voodoo magic