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The points allowed is good and we're creating turnovers. However it seems we're giving up a lot of yards so I'm not sure if the PA is a sign of defensive improvement or when we aren't facing Geno Smiths a lot of those FGs become redzone TDs. I'm not fearing a repeat of the '13 defense but still skeptical.

 

 

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Rodgers is such a douche.

Yet he gets to date Olivia Munn.

 

Front. He's gay as sandals.

I'll amend...

 

Yet he gets to pretend to date Olivia Munn.

 

Well, you say "gets to", but if that is true then it would be more like "feels forced to", and that's no good.

 

 

And it's not like the world's biggest douches haven't been tied to beautiful celebrities before.

 

And some of the world's biggest in-the-closet gays too.

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Why would we want to look at it like that?

 

You're right. We should look at it as we did when the schedule came out in July. Not as teams that have greatly struggled in 2/3 of the actual games played so far.

 

come on man you know i was joking

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The points allowed is good and we're creating turnovers. However it seems we're giving up a lot of yards so I'm not sure if the PA is a sign of defensive improvement or when we aren't facing Geno Smiths a lot of those FGs become redzone TDs. I'm not fearing a repeat of the '13 defense but still skeptical.

 

 

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Coming in everyone said if we could be an average defense, or least least a decent improvement over last years disaster, we could be a contender. So far, its played above average. I am not sure if yards allowed is a more accurate predictor of future performance than points allowed (although logically it makes sense to me), but even with some regression we are looking good.

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#Bears [Did Not Practice] on Wed. If they did practice, 8 players would've been held out: Allen (illness), Fiammetta, Garza, Marshall, McClellin, McManis..

 

(Cont)....Ratliff & Slauson. Limited would have been Conte & Mundy.
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I don't think it will be pretty, but I think the Bears win this one. Trestman seems to be able to handle Dom Capers way better than the previous Bears offensive "minds". They scored 27 and 28 points in the 2 games last year and should have won both. Packers are desperate and Bears haven't faced an elite passing QB yet, but Matthews might not play for the Packers D. I'll say Bears 24, Packers 23 in an excellent game.

 

If that actually happens, the Bears are in a pretty darn good spot considering they were a half of football vs. the 49ers away from possibly being done for the season.

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The points allowed is good and we're creating turnovers. However it seems we're giving up a lot of yards so I'm not sure if the PA is a sign of defensive improvement or when we aren't facing Geno Smiths a lot of those FGs become redzone TDs. I'm not fearing a repeat of the '13 defense but still skeptical.

 

 

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Coming in everyone said if we could be an average defense, or least least a decent improvement over last years disaster, we could be a contender. So far, its played above average. I am not sure if yards allowed is a more accurate predictor of future performance than points allowed (although logically it makes sense to me), but even with some regression we are looking good.

 

Everyone said that with the assumption that the offense would be healthy and among the league's best.

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The points allowed is good and we're creating turnovers. However it seems we're giving up a lot of yards so I'm not sure if the PA is a sign of defensive improvement or when we aren't facing Geno Smiths a lot of those FGs become redzone TDs. I'm not fearing a repeat of the '13 defense but still skeptical.

 

 

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Coming in everyone said if we could be an average defense, or least least a decent improvement over last years disaster, we could be a contender. So far, its played above average. I am not sure if yards allowed is a more accurate predictor of future performance than points allowed (although logically it makes sense to me), but even with some regression we are looking good.

 

Everyone said that with the assumption that the offense would be healthy and among the league's best.

 

Well yeah. I thought that was implied :)

 

So far none of the injuries are on offense are too devistating. Marshall and Jeffery haven't been 100% but should improve as the year goes on, but they are still playing every week. Trading Slauson for Ola hurts, but losing Garza for De La Puente has been a net gain so far.

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Marshall and Jeffery haven't been 100% but should improve as the year goes on,

 

Not sure why we should assume health improves during the season while they are still playing.

 

Because Marshall and Jeffery were both improved on Monday? Marshall got re-injured. Maybe the MNF injury doesn't happen if he didn't already have a bad ankle, but Jeffery went from out 2nd half week 1, to not being able to stretch it out and go deep week 2, to having no visible limitations going deep or elevating in week 3, to not on the injury report to start week 4.

 

Marshall was better physically in SF than he was to end Week 1. He was better physically to start Week 3 than he was to start Week 2.

 

If your argument is the risk of re-injury, it's not really going to change at any point without extended rest.

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Marshall and Jeffery haven't been 100% but should improve as the year goes on,

 

Not sure why we should assume health improves during the season while they are still playing.

 

Because Marshall and Jeffery were both improved on Monday? Marshall got re-injured. Maybe the MNF injury doesn't happen if he didn't already have a bad ankle, but Jeffery went from out 2nd half week 1, to not being able to stretch it out and go deep week 2, to having no visible limitations going deep or elevating in week 3, to not on the injury report to start week 4.

 

Marshall was better physically in SF than he was to end Week 1. He was better physically to start Week 3 than he was to start Week 2.

 

If your argument is the risk of re-injury, it's not really going to change at any point without extended rest.

 

Also, eventually (in 5 weeks), there is a bye week, and if they were still hobbled at that point they would have 2 weeks to rest their injuries and become healthy for the 2nd half of the season.

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Marshall and Jeffery haven't been 100% but should improve as the year goes on,

 

Not sure why we should assume health improves during the season while they are still playing.

 

Because Marshall and Jeffery were both improved on Monday? Marshall got re-injured. Maybe the MNF injury doesn't happen if he didn't already have a bad ankle, but Jeffery went from out 2nd half week 1, to not being able to stretch it out and go deep week 2, to having no visible limitations going deep or elevating in week 3, to not on the injury report to start week 4.

 

Marshall was better physically in SF than he was to end Week 1. He was better physically to start Week 3 than he was to start Week 2.

 

If your argument is the risk of re-injury, it's not really going to change at any point without extended rest.

 

That is some really odd thinking.

 

Marshall has been hurt in every game and was hurt again on Monday. He would have been unavailable to practice today.

 

Getting hurt early in the season is bad and assuming they will improve throughout the season, while still playing, is silly.

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Yeah, it really would have been smart to sit Marshall for the Jets game. Division games are clearly more important than road AFC games...MNF or not. Now we have an important home division game, and 2 road NFC games before we have another AFC game that you could consider "less important". With a short week, it seems like past week would've been the right week to let Marshall rest.
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Marshall and Jeffery haven't been 100% but should improve as the year goes on,

 

Not sure why we should assume health improves during the season while they are still playing.

 

Because Marshall and Jeffery were both improved on Monday? Marshall got re-injured. Maybe the MNF injury doesn't happen if he didn't already have a bad ankle, but Jeffery went from out 2nd half week 1, to not being able to stretch it out and go deep week 2, to having no visible limitations going deep or elevating in week 3, to not on the injury report to start week 4.

 

Marshall was better physically in SF than he was to end Week 1. He was better physically to start Week 3 than he was to start Week 2.

 

If your argument is the risk of re-injury, it's not really going to change at any point without extended rest.

 

That is some really odd thinking.

 

Marshall has been hurt in every game and was hurt again on Monday. He would have been unavailable to practice today.

 

Getting hurt early in the season is bad and thinking they will improve throughout the season, while still playing, is silly.

 

Ignoring the fact that they were both healthier to start Week 3 than they were in Week 1 is sillier. Jeffery has clearly improved throughout the season while still playing as I pointed out in my last post. How can you not dispute that and then say it's silly to think that they will improve?

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Ugh, McClellin already ruled out.

 

Bostic played well Monday but it would have been nice to have both.

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Did Shae lose a hand or something?

 

yeah i really thought they'd just put it in one of those club-cast things and he'd be good to go

Me too.

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