2014 Chicago Bears Offseason Thread

[Guest]

Most of the stuff he said made no sense and wasn't funny.

[cubbyvirus00]

Weird mock over at NFLDraftTek has the Bears taking CJ Mosely over Dennard, Donald, etc. and all of the DT's sans Nix falling to the early 2nd. I'm wary of Donald as a combine-hyped prospect, but I still can't see that happening.

 

Donald isn't your typical combine-hyped prospect though. Dude's numbers were ridiculous. 28.5 TFL and 11 sacks from the DT position. 63 TFL and 27.5 sacks in the last 3 years. He's the real deal. The only concern is if the lack of size hampers him at the next level.

 

I don't get the amount of concern over his size. His weight is fine and sure he's a little short. But there's already proven success with that body type at the NFL level (Geno Atkins among others).

[dcvalpo]

Most of the stuff he said made no sense and wasn't funny.

 

Yeah, it was just weird. But you guys, feel free to enjoy.

[rawaction]

Weird mock over at NFLDraftTek has the Bears taking CJ Mosely over Dennard, Donald, etc. and all of the DT's sans Nix falling to the early 2nd. I'm wary of Donald as a combine-hyped prospect, but I still can't see that happening.

 

Donald isn't your typical combine-hyped prospect though. Dude's numbers were ridiculous. 28.5 TFL and 11 sacks from the DT position. 63 TFL and 27.5 sacks in the last 3 years. He's the real deal. The only concern is if the lack of size hampers him at the next level.

 

I don't get the amount of concern over his size. His weight is fine and sure he's a little short. But there's already proven success with that body type at the NFL level (Geno Atkins among others).

 

There's also proven failure with that body type. I don't really question if Donald won't fail, but I'm not sure if he's the next Geno Atkins or the next Chris Zorich.

[Splendid Splinter]

Weird mock over at NFLDraftTek has the Bears taking CJ Mosely over Dennard, Donald, etc. and all of the DT's sans Nix falling to the early 2nd. I'm wary of Donald as a combine-hyped prospect, but I still can't see that happening.

 

Donald isn't your typical combine-hyped prospect though. Dude's numbers were ridiculous. 28.5 TFL and 11 sacks from the DT position. 63 TFL and 27.5 sacks in the last 3 years. He's the real deal. The only concern is if the lack of size hampers him at the next level.

 

I don't get the amount of concern over his size. His weight is fine and sure he's a little short. But there's already proven success with that body type at the NFL level (Geno Atkins among others).

 

Who? Lets make it 6'1" or shorter and 290 or less... Lets also make it in the last 10 years. I'll wait while you make a list.

[RynoRules]

I think its my own bias, but anything under 3-bills seems smallish for DT. I thought that about Melton in spite of his production.

[Guest]

Weird mock over at NFLDraftTek has the Bears taking CJ Mosely over Dennard, Donald, etc. and all of the DT's sans Nix falling to the early 2nd. I'm wary of Donald as a combine-hyped prospect, but I still can't see that happening.

 

Donald isn't your typical combine-hyped prospect though. Dude's numbers were ridiculous. 28.5 TFL and 11 sacks from the DT position. 63 TFL and 27.5 sacks in the last 3 years. He's the real deal. The only concern is if the lack of size hampers him at the next level.

 

I don't get the amount of concern over his size. His weight is fine and sure he's a little short. But there's already proven success with that body type at the NFL level (Geno Atkins among others).

 

There's also proven failure with that body type. I don't really question if Donald won't fail, but I'm not sure if he's the next Geno Atkins or the next Chris Zorich.

Zorich had success.

[rawaction]

Weird mock over at NFLDraftTek has the Bears taking CJ Mosely over Dennard, Donald, etc. and all of the DT's sans Nix falling to the early 2nd. I'm wary of Donald as a combine-hyped prospect, but I still can't see that happening.

 

Donald isn't your typical combine-hyped prospect though. Dude's numbers were ridiculous. 28.5 TFL and 11 sacks from the DT position. 63 TFL and 27.5 sacks in the last 3 years. He's the real deal. The only concern is if the lack of size hampers him at the next level.

 

I don't get the amount of concern over his size. His weight is fine and sure he's a little short. But there's already proven success with that body type at the NFL level (Geno Atkins among others).

 

There's also proven failure with that body type. I don't really question if Donald won't fail, but I'm not sure if he's the next Geno Atkins or the next Chris Zorich.

Zorich had success.

 

Yes, he had a solid 6 year career with 2 very good years. And I expect Donald to have success, which is why I didn't pick a complete failure. But with the 14th pick, I want more than a solid career. I don't know if he's a potential 1st team all pro like Atkins.

[Banedon]

http://footballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=66555

[Guest]

Apparently Eric Weems did take a paycut and will make $730,000 next year.

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/04/11/bears-wr-eric-weems-accepts-pay-cut/

[Soul]

I think its my own bias, but anything under 3-bills seems smallish for DT. I thought that about Melton in spite of his production.

 

Wasn't Tommie Harris a tad shy of 300 out of college?

[Guest]

I think its my own bias, but anything under 3-bills seems smallish for DT. I thought that about Melton in spite of his production.

 

Wasn't Tommie Harris a tad shy of 300 out of college?

And he was considered smallish. Though as a 3 - technique he's fine.

[RynoRules]

I think I am still longing for the days of Washington and Traylor.

[Guest]

Give me Tommie and Tank every time.

[jersey cubs fan]

Give me Tommie and Tank every time.

Yeah the stout run defenders don't do much for me.

[cubbyvirus00]

I think its my own bias, but anything under 3-bills seems smallish for DT. I thought that about Melton in spite of his production.

 

Wasn't Tommie Harris a tad shy of 300 out of college?

 

Darnell Dockett's listed playing weight is under 300 lb FWIW

[rawaction]

Give me Tommie and Tank every time.

Yeah the stout run defenders don't do much for me.

 

That's because it's not 1998 anymore.

[RynoRules]

Give me Tommie and Tank every time.

Yeah the stout run defenders don't do much for me.

 

That's because it's not 1998 anymore.

 

"Hello - we all weigh over 300 lbs. " - Geno Atkins / Haloti Ngata / Vincent Wilfork / Jay Ratliff / Randy Starks / Linval Joseph / Michael Brockers / Kevin Williams / Marcel Dareus / Ndamukong Suh / Nick Fairley / Kyle Williams

 

EDIT: My point is that if you are drafting a 1st or 2nd Rnd DT he should be able to stop the run and collapse the pocket. Having smaller DT's that get pushed backwards was a big part of our problem last season.

Edited April 15, 2014 by RynoRules

[jersey cubs fan]

Give me Tommie and Tank every time.

Yeah the stout run defenders don't do much for me.

 

That's because it's not 1998 anymore.

 

"Hello - we all weigh over 300 lbs. " - Geno Atkins / Haloti Ngata / Vincent Wilfork / Jay Ratliff / Randy Starks / Linval Joseph / Michael Brockers / Kevin Williams / Marcel Dareus / Ndamukong Suh / Nick Fairley / Kyle Williams

 

EDIT: My point is that if you are drafting a 1st or 2nd Rnd DT he should be able to stop and the run and collapse the pocket. Having smaller DT's that get pushed backwards were a big part of our problem last season.

 

The problem with the DTs they had last year is they were 5th stringers and mostly garbage.

[Soul]

"Hello - we all weigh over 300 lbs. " - Geno Atkins / Haloti Ngata / Vincent Wilfork / Jay Ratliff / Randy Starks / Linval Joseph / Michael Brockers / Kevin Williams / Marcel Dareus / Ndamukong Suh / Nick Fairley / Kyle Williams

 

Pretty sure not all of those guys were 300+ out of college, though.

[JonJayCutler]

Give me Tommie and Tank every time.

Yeah the stout run defenders don't do much for me.

 

That's because it's not 1998 anymore.

 

"Hello - we all weigh over 300 lbs. " - Geno Atkins / Haloti Ngata / Vincent Wilfork / Jay Ratliff / Randy Starks / Linval Joseph / Michael Brockers / Kevin Williams / Marcel Dareus / Ndamukong Suh / Nick Fairley / Kyle Williams

 

EDIT: My point is that if you are drafting a 1st or 2nd Rnd DT he should be able to stop and the run and collapse the pocket. Having smaller DT's that get pushed backwards were a big part of our problem last season.

 

The problem with the DTs they had last year is they were 5th stringers and mostly garbage.

 

This. Landon Cohen should never see an NFL field. I think there was another scrub too but I forgot his name, and rightfully so.

[weis21]

"Hello - we all weigh over 300 lbs. " - Geno Atkins / Haloti Ngata / Vincent Wilfork / Jay Ratliff / Randy Starks / Linval Joseph / Michael Brockers / Kevin Williams / Marcel Dareus / Ndamukong Suh / Nick Fairley / Kyle Williams

 

Pretty sure not all of those guys were 300+ out of college, though.

Linval Joseph was listed at 322 at ECU

[RynoRules]

"Hello - we all weigh over 300 lbs. " - Geno Atkins / Haloti Ngata / Vincent Wilfork / Jay Ratliff / Randy Starks / Linval Joseph / Michael Brockers / Kevin Williams / Marcel Dareus / Ndamukong Suh / Nick Fairley / Kyle Williams

 

Pretty sure not all of those guys were 300+ out of college, though.

Linval Joseph was listed at 322 at ECU

 

He's probably right about guys like Atkins and the Williams boys, but I think the rest were there.

[UMFan83]

Aldon Smith anyone?

[Butterscup1679666578]

it'd be nice to get a couple games out of him before he shoots someone. why not.