2014 NFL Draft Thread

[Guest]

A stab at the top guys for 2015:

 

Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon

Randy Gregory, DE/OLB, Nebraska

Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State

Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford

Leonard Williams, DE, USC

Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA

Cedric Ogbuhei, OT, Texas A&M

Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan State

Noah Spence, DE, Ohio State

Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor

Michael Bennett, DT, Ohio State

PJ Williams, CB, Florida State

Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia - not sure what happens to a stud RB with the way the NFL now values RBs in the draft

Landon Collins, S, Alabama

Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State

Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa

Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama

Stefon Diggs, WR, Maryland

Alex Carter, CB, Stanford

Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon

[dew1679666265]

Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia - not sure what happens to a stud RB with the way the NFL now values RBs in the draft

 

This will be really interesting - maybe the most interesting storyline in next year's draft (and far better than the Manziel story this year). Stud RBs are still clearly very valuable in the NFL (Peterson, Forte, Charles, etc) and I think a stud RB is worth a 1st round pick (and probably a high 1st).

 

However, you better be certain that RB is a stud if you're going to use that pick on him. Is Gurley truly a stud back and will a team take that gamble? It'll be interesting to see, I think.

[jersey cubs fan]

Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia - not sure what happens to a stud RB with the way the NFL now values RBs in the draft

I think a true stud rb isn't dropping out of top half. You don't pay them much and burn through 3 affordable years with ease.

[jersey cubs fan]

Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia - not sure what happens to a stud RB with the way the NFL now values RBs in the draft

 

This will be really interesting - maybe the most interesting storyline in next year's draft (and far better than the Manziel story this year). Stud RBs are still clearly very valuable in the NFL (Peterson, Forte, Charles, etc) and I think a stud RB is worth a 1st round pick (and probably a high 1st).

 

However, you better be certain that RB is a stud if you're going to use that pick on him. Is Gurley truly a stud back and will a team take that gamble? It'll be interesting to see, I think.

I wouldn't pick a forte clone early in the first.

[dew1679666265]

I wouldn't pick a forte clone early in the first.

 

I'd be interested to see what his numbers looked like behind a better line. He's posted a steady 4.5 or so yards per carry each year and the Bear lines have been pretty abysmal. It would depend on the rest of the talent in the draft, but if Forte is a 5ish ypc guy behind a good line for 6+ years, that'd be hard to pass up.

 

He's on the low end of what I'd want, though. I'd definitely hope I was getting more of a Peterson or Charles type.

[jersey cubs fan]

I wouldn't pick a forte clone early in the first.

 

I'd be interested to see what his numbers looked like behind a better line. He's posted a steady 4.5 or so yards per carry each year and the Bear lines have been pretty abysmal. It would depend on the rest of the talent in the draft, but if Forte is a 5ish ypc guy behind a good line for 6+ years, that'd be hard to pass up.

 

He's on the low end of what I'd want, though. I'd definitely hope I was getting more of a Peterson or Charles type.

They've been horrible in pass protection but he's had run blockers before. And a true stud doesn't need to rely on a great line. Peterson would have been fine with Chicago. If you can't be a beast when everybody knows you're getting the ball, you aren't a first round stud.

Edited May 11, 2014 by jersey cubs fan

[dew1679666265]

Assuming he actually did sign with the Titans, I really like the Antonio Andrews pickup. Has the potential to replace Shonn Greene as the power back at a much cheaper price as early as this year.

[Soul]

I don't think I'd go RB in the top 15 unless it was Peterson or LT.

[dew1679666265]

They've been horrible in pass protection but he's had run blockers before.

 

Ah, didn't realize they had good run blocking lines. I knew the line had been terrible and assumed it was the case all the way around. It still depends on the quality of the draft. Forte has been extremely consistent and durable as well as being quite productive.

[jersey cubs fan]

They've been horrible in pass protection but he's had run blockers before.

 

Ah, didn't realize they had good run blocking lines. I knew the line had been terrible and assumed it was the case all the way around. It still depends on the quality of the draft. Forte has been extremely consistent and durable as well as being quite productive.

Yep, an ideal 2nd round pick.

[dew1679666265]

And a true stud doesn't need to rely on a great line. Peterson would have been fine with Chicago. If you can't be a beast when everybody knows you're getting the ball, you aren't a first round stud.

 

I'm not saying Forte relies on a great line, I'm saying with a better line his numbers might improve slightly. Same with Peterson, Charles, LT or any other back. Peterson has a career 5.0 ypc and Forte is at 4.3 - if a better line gave Forte a few tenths of a yard more, he'd be really close to Peterson.

 

Heck, he's already really close to Peterson if his first two years were more like the past 4. Not sure why he had the 2 years of slightly sub-4 ypc, but it's what's keeping him from being on Peterson's level.

[jersey cubs fan]

And a true stud doesn't need to rely on a great line. Peterson would have been fine with Chicago. If you can't be a beast when everybody knows you're getting the ball, you aren't a first round stud.

 

I'm not saying Forte relies on a great line, I'm saying with a better line his numbers might improve slightly. Same with Peterson, Charles, LT or any other back. Peterson has a career 5.0 ypc and Forte is at 4.3 - if a better line gave Forte a few tenths of a yard more, he'd be really close to Peterson.

 

Heck, he's already really close to Peterson if his first two years were more like the past 4. Not sure why he had the 2 years of slightly sub-4 ypc, but it's what's keeping him from being on Peterson's level.

I know what you are saying, and my response is if you are actually a stud worth a top of 1st pick, you would be Peterson and not forte. Everything ap has done is with a non-qb.

Edited May 11, 2014 by jersey cubs fan

[dew1679666265]

They've been horrible in pass protection but he's had run blockers before.

 

Ah, didn't realize they had good run blocking lines. I knew the line had been terrible and assumed it was the case all the way around. It still depends on the quality of the draft. Forte has been extremely consistent and durable as well as being quite productive.

Yep, an ideal 2nd round pick.

 

If the draft is strong enough to push him down, sure. I don't think a first round grade would be out of line, though.

[dew1679666265]

I know what you are saying, and my response is if you are actually a stud worth a top of 1st pick, you would be Peterson and not forte. Everything ap has done is with a non-qb.

 

I probably wouldn't take Forte early in the first unless it was a pretty barren draft. I wouldn't rule him out of the entire first, though.

[Slugger_16]

Woo, Bruce Ellington is the first South Carolina basketball player to be drafted since Renaldo Balkman in 2006. This video clip with Ellington is still hilarious two seasons later: http://deadspin.com/5943840/heres-a-south-carolina-trainer-eyefucking-bruce-ellington

 

Also pretty cool having the #1 pick in the draft.

[Guest]

Vikings have done well in UDFA: Tennessee St TE AC Leonard, Tennessee OT Antonio Richardson, Northwestern WR Kain Colter. All guys I would have loved to see the Bears sign.

[Guest]

Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia - not sure what happens to a stud RB with the way the NFL now values RBs in the draft

 

This will be really interesting - maybe the most interesting storyline in next year's draft (and far better than the Manziel story this year). Stud RBs are still clearly very valuable in the NFL (Peterson, Forte, Charles, etc) and I think a stud RB is worth a 1st round pick (and probably a high 1st).

 

However, you better be certain that RB is a stud if you're going to use that pick on him. Is Gurley truly a stud back and will a team take that gamble? It'll be interesting to see, I think.

 

I think Gurley is a stud and there are a couple of other talented RBs next year who would have gone in the first round in years past (Melvin Gordon of Wisconsin and Mike Davis of South Carolina).

[dew1679666265]

I think Gurley is a stud and there are a couple of other talented RBs next year who would have gone in the first round in years past (Melvin Gordon of Wisconsin and Mike Davis of South Carolina).

 

Gurley definitely is a freakish athlete. I want to see him another year before feeling confident that I'd take him in the first round, but I think he's probably worth it.

 

Davis is really good as well, possibly a first round quality RB too. Not familiar enough with Gordon yet - I need to watch some Wisconsin games.

[OleMissCub]

Aye Carumba

 

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/05/nfl-draft-picks-purchases-from-jacob-the-jeweler-revealed/#qTL4A0BZY7FsMcYe.99

 

Clowney hit up Gabriel Jacobs from Rafaello & Co. in New York on Thursday and treated himself to some top quality items including:

 

– 24k gold necklace with 10 ounce gold bar surrounded in a frame peppered in diamonds (estimated value: $20k)

– Presidential Rolex watch with black face (estimated value: $45k)

– Gold angel pendant with diamonds (estimated value: unknown but expensive)

 

Greg Robinson (#2 pick) All-black diamond Phantom Rafello Tourbillon watch

– estimated cost: $123k

 

Khalil Mack (#5 pick) 18k Gold Cartier Santos XL watch

– estimated cost: $84k

 

Mike Evans (#7 pick) Rolex Deep Sea Covered Watch (all VVS-quality diamonds) and custom diamond bracelet

– estimated cost: $43k

 

Brandin Cooks (#20 pick) White gold & diamond Presidential Rolex watch

– estimated value: $46k

 

Ha Ha Clinton Dix (#21 pick) All diamond Presidential Rolex and Cuban Link diamond bracelet with diamnod studs

– estimated value: $55k

 

Johnny Manziel (#22 pick) Rose gold Presidential Rolex

– estimated value: $30k

 

Jason Verrett (#25 pick) Solid gold 18k Breitling Bentley watch with diamond studs

– estimated value: $30k

[Guest]

Can't believe they didn't just load up on camping supplies like I would have.

[WrigleyField 22]

None of them went and opened an IRA?

[jersey cubs fan]

marshall henderson ‏@NativeFlash22 10m

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marshall henderson ‏@NativeFlash22 50m

Boycotting sportscenter til this michael sam nasty ass [expletive] is off .... My brothers are 7 and 11 and saw that!!! #SICKENING

[WrigleyField 22]

I agree, kissing on TV/Movies is totally inappropriate which is why when I have kids they are only allowed to watch Bollywood films.

[Banedon]

marshall henderson ‏@NativeFlash22 10m

Im sorry, but I DO NOT AGREE WHATSOEVER that should be shown to where innocent eyes can see!!!

marshall henderson ‏@NativeFlash22 50m

Boycotting sportscenter til this michael sam nasty ass [expletive] is off .... My brothers are 7 and 11 and saw that!!! #SICKENING

 

Derrick Ward was tweeting similar thoughts.

[WrigleyField 22]

Henderson is not expected to be drafted in his sport in June

 

Fortunately, it’s almost assured that Henderson’s younger brothers won’t be exposed to any coverage of him getting selected in the NBA Draft when it rolls around in June.