Shea McClellin

[apete6]

He sucks.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14937/shea-mcclellin

 

And here are the DE drafted after him. Jones and Mercilus are far better. The rest also suck. Why, oh why, could we not have drafted Jones or Mercilus? Disclaimer that the Texans run the 3-4 and you could argue that Mercilus would have the same problems as McClellin does in the 4-3.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14927/chandler-jones

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14936/whitney-mercilus

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14929/nick-perry

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14970/courtney-upshaw

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14952/andre-branch

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14959/vinny-curry

[jersey cubs fan]

He had that one real nice play, and was the only guy who could bring down Jacobs on another run.

[apete6]

He had that one real nice play, and was the only guy who could bring down Jacobs on another run.

 

So....he sucks.

[Banedon]

He had that one real nice play, and was the only guy who could bring down Jacobs on another run.

 

I don't like Alex Brown as an analyst, but he had a point about McClellin this morning, that Rosie Colvin was telling Alex how bad Urlacher was when they first had him at the SAM backer spot, but then the move him a few feet to the middle, and he's a hall of famer. That sometimes it's not necessarily the player, but it's the coach using the player correctly. Not sure what else we can do with him without switching to a 3-4. Plus, the line is sooooo thin, it's not like we can bump him back to a LB spot.

 

Maybe we could trade him for a DT?

[Guest]

He sucks.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14937/shea-mcclellin

 

And here are the DE drafted after him. Jones and Mercilus are far better. The rest also suck. Why, oh why, could we not have drafted Jones or Mercilus? Disclaimer that the Texans run the 3-4 and you could argue that Mercilus would have the same problems as McClellin does in the 4-3.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14927/chandler-jones

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14936/whitney-mercilus

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14929/nick-perry

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14970/courtney-upshaw

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14952/andre-branch

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14959/vinny-curry

 

Perry and Upshaw are also 3-4 OLBs.

 

Of course that's probably what McClellin is too.

[Soul]

He had that one real nice play, and was the only guy who could bring down Jacobs on another run.

 

I don't like Alex Brown as an analyst, but he had a point about McClellin this morning, that Rosie Colvin was telling Alex how bad Urlacher was when they first had him at the SAM backer spot, but then the move him a few feet to the middle, and he's a hall of famer. That sometimes it's not necessarily the player, but it's the coach using the player correctly. Not sure what else we can do with him without switching to a 3-4. Plus, the line is sooooo thin, it's not like we can bump him back to a LB spot.

 

Maybe we could trade him for a DT?

 

Arena leaguer? Sure.

[rawaction]

He's not a lost cause yet. And he's actually probably played the run better than the past so far. But he's clearly proven to me that he's a 25-30 snap per game player. He can't hold up for 45-50 plays. I wonder if some wide-9 formations might help him. Getting him a good 3 yards outside of the tackle and letting him go straight downhill at the QB.

[cubbyvirus00]

The problem is he's 1 move and stonewalled 95% of the time. Once a lineman puts hands on him, he doesn't have the strength to fight off the block. I think he can be a 3-4 OLB, but that is exactly why Emery should be held accountable for making a shitty draft pick. Chandler Jones or Mercilus were the clear cut picks at that position.

[Banedon]

The problem is he's 1 move and stonewalled 95% of the time. Once a lineman puts hands on him, he doesn't have the strength to fight off the block. I think he can be a 3-4 OLB, but that is exactly why Emery should be held accountable for making a [expletive] draft pick. Chandler Jones or Mercilus were the clear cut picks at that position.

 

It was his first draft pick, and it sucked, no doubt. But it looks like he might've hit a home run with the Kyle Long pick, another one that was....debated. Plus there's been some good non-first round picks as well. If we're holding Emery accountable for a bad pick, he's got to get credit for the good ones as well.

[cubbyvirus00]

The problem is he's 1 move and stonewalled 95% of the time. Once a lineman puts hands on him, he doesn't have the strength to fight off the block. I think he can be a 3-4 OLB, but that is exactly why Emery should be held accountable for making a [expletive] draft pick. Chandler Jones or Mercilus were the clear cut picks at that position.

 

It was his first draft pick, and it sucked, no doubt. But it looks like he might've hit a home run with the Kyle Long pick, another one that was....debated. Plus there's been some good non-first round picks as well. If we're holding Emery accountable for a bad pick, he's got to get credit for the good ones as well.

 

 

The Long pick is different. Long was regarded as the next best pick at the Guard position. While he was drafted too early, he wasn't asked to make a position switch or to change his body type to be successful. However, if you're a fan of the BPA approach, Emery failed here too because Sharrif Floyd would a clear cut top 10 pick that fell and Dline was still a need.

 

Also it's safe to say that the 2012 draft as a whole was pretty bad. Alshon is the only saving grace and if he somehow doesn't turn out to be an above average player, then the draft class would be an utter disaster.

Edited October 11, 2013 by cubbyvirus00

[Sammy Sofa]

"Held accountable?" Meaning, what, he should be fired for drafting Shea McClellin?

[cubbyvirus00]

"Held accountable?" Meaning, what, he should be fired for drafting Shea McClellin?

 

Stop trolling.

[Sammy Sofa]

What? I'm asking what you mean by "held accountable," that seemingly implies there should be some sort of consequence. Calm down.

[Banedon]

Yeah, I'm not sure what you're wanting done here. Plenty of people are saying Shea was a bad pick. It's not like he's getting a pass. But it was his first draft, and he's done well in a lot of other areas.

 

How has Sharrif Floyd been? Better at his position than Long is at his? I honestly don't know.

[cubbyvirus00]

What? I'm asking what you mean by "held accountable," that seemingly implies there should be some sort of consequence. Calm down.

 

Emery was brought in to end the dark age of Angelo drafting. There are only 2 players worth a damn left over from the 2012 draft in Jeffrey and Frey after ONE year. Without looking I'll wager that we're the only team with only 3 players remaining from that draft with the 6 (?) picks we had. My comment was implying that it should be simply be noted that he had an awful first draft during a time that we desperately needed good young talent.

Edited October 11, 2013 by cubbyvirus00

[Banedon]

What? I'm asking what you mean by "held accountable," that seemingly implies there should be some sort of consequence. Calm down.

 

Emery was brought in to end the dark age of Angelo drafting. There are only 2 players worth a damn left over from the 2012 draft in Jeffrey and Frey. My comment was implying that it should be simply be noted that he had an awful first draft during a time that we desperately needed good young talent.

 

Who are you wanting to note this that isn't?

[Sammy Sofa]

It's been noted practically since day one; it was a debated pick at the time and he's taken a ton of [expletive] for it since he selected him.

[Guest]

The problem is he's 1 move and stonewalled 95% of the time. Once a lineman puts hands on him, he doesn't have the strength to fight off the block. I think he can be a 3-4 OLB, but that is exactly why Emery should be held accountable for making a [expletive] draft pick. Chandler Jones or Mercilus were the clear cut picks at that position.

 

It was his first draft pick, and it sucked, no doubt. But it looks like he might've hit a home run with the Kyle Long pick, another one that was....debated. Plus there's been some good non-first round picks as well. If we're holding Emery accountable for a bad pick, he's got to get credit for the good ones as well.

 

 

The Long pick is different. Long was regarded as the next best pick at the Guard position. While he was drafted too early, he wasn't asked to make a position switch or to change his body type to be successful. However, if you're a fan of the BPA approach, Emery failed here too because Sharrif Floyd would a clear cut top 10 pick that fell and Dline was still a need.

 

Also it's safe to say that the 2012 draft as a whole was pretty bad. Alshon is the only saving grace and if he somehow doesn't turn out to be an above average player, then the draft class would be an utter disaster.

 

Isaiah Frey has a chance to be a good starting CB.

[cubbyvirus00]

What? I'm asking what you mean by "held accountable," that seemingly implies there should be some sort of consequence. Calm down.

 

Emery was brought in to end the dark age of Angelo drafting. There are only 2 players worth a damn left over from the 2012 draft in Jeffrey and Frey. My comment was implying that it should be simply be noted that he had an awful first draft during a time that we desperately needed good young talent.

 

Who are you wanting to note this that isn't?

 

I'm responding to N&G's confusion over whether I'm demanding Emery's head after 2 drafts.

[Sammy Sofa]

Damn, dude, quit freaking out and just use your words better.

[cubbyvirus00]

The problem is he's 1 move and stonewalled 95% of the time. Once a lineman puts hands on him, he doesn't have the strength to fight off the block. I think he can be a 3-4 OLB, but that is exactly why Emery should be held accountable for making a [expletive] draft pick. Chandler Jones or Mercilus were the clear cut picks at that position.

 

It was his first draft pick, and it sucked, no doubt. But it looks like he might've hit a home run with the Kyle Long pick, another one that was....debated. Plus there's been some good non-first round picks as well. If we're holding Emery accountable for a bad pick, he's got to get credit for the good ones as well.

 

 

The Long pick is different. Long was regarded as the next best pick at the Guard position. While he was drafted too early, he wasn't asked to make a position switch or to change his body type to be successful. However, if you're a fan of the BPA approach, Emery failed here too because Sharrif Floyd would a clear cut top 10 pick that fell and Dline was still a need.

 

Also it's safe to say that the 2012 draft as a whole was pretty bad. Alshon is the only saving grace and if he somehow doesn't turn out to be an above average player, then the draft class would be an utter disaster.

 

Isaiah Frey has a chance to be a good starting CB.

 

Based on what? He had a great training camp since being waived and brought back on the practice squad and hasn't really stood out as a nickel although I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing. He had a few really bad missed tackles last night.

[XZero771679666304]

Yeah, I'm with N&G here. Saying he should be "held accountable" clearly implies some kind of punitive action. I'm pretty sure everyone has noticed his picks.

 

In lieu of firing, maybe a pillory or stocks could be erected outside of Halas Hall where Emery could be shamed and pelted with rotten food.

[rawaction]

The problem is he's 1 move and stonewalled 95% of the time. Once a lineman puts hands on him, he doesn't have the strength to fight off the block. I think he can be a 3-4 OLB, but that is exactly why Emery should be held accountable for making a [expletive] draft pick. Chandler Jones or Mercilus were the clear cut picks at that position.

 

It was his first draft pick, and it sucked, no doubt. But it looks like he might've hit a home run with the Kyle Long pick, another one that was....debated. Plus there's been some good non-first round picks as well. If we're holding Emery accountable for a bad pick, he's got to get credit for the good ones as well.

 

 

The Long pick is different. Long was regarded as the next best pick at the Guard position. While he was drafted too early, he wasn't asked to make a position switch or to change his body type to be successful. However, if you're a fan of the BPA approach, Emery failed here too because Sharrif Floyd would a clear cut top 10 pick that fell and Dline was still a need.

 

Also it's safe to say that the 2012 draft as a whole was pretty bad. Alshon is the only saving grace and if he somehow doesn't turn out to be an above average player, then the draft class would be an utter disaster.

 

Isaiah Frey has a chance to be a good starting CB.

 

Based on what? He had a great training camp since being waived and brought back on the practice squad and hasn't really stood out as a nickel although I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing. He had a few really bad missed tackles last night.

 

Frey has had a really solid year. He held his own vs. Cruz in the slot last night (All his catches came on the outside). Gave up nothing vs. NO. I think he could be a solid starter at some point, though he might have found a good niche. I would say he's been clearly better than Hayden was at nickel last year, and probably about as good as DJ Moore was at his best. He'll get tested in Green Bay in a few weeks though.

[Banedon]

He had a few really bad missed tackles last night.

 

The whole damn team missed tackles. They all forgot they had arms.

[rawaction]

FWIW, I hated the Alshon Jeffery pick. I thought best case scenario was he was too much like Marshall. I wanted a faster WR like Reuben Randle or Stephen Hill. If I was the GM last year, the Bears would have Mercilus and Randle. I wasn't a Chandler Jones fan (wrong), but we'd have an upgrade at DE and a downgrade at WR based on those picks.