Week 7 - Bears (4-2) @ Humanskins (1-3) 12 pm CT FOX

[Brian]

Over/Under on Packers punts on MNF at 1

[Rex Buckingham]

This is the play that just boggled my mind. How is that hold is not called?

 

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g109/scarey23/redskinsholding.png

 

not to mention what looks like illegal hands to the face right by the LOS

 

edit: though looking closely it is hard to tell whether it's in his face or his shoulder pad and the pad is pushing his helmet up

[cubbyvirus00]

Just my 2 cents.

Conte and Major Wright are being exposed to the horrific play of the Dline.

 

Cutler will be retained. The injury does not give him much leverage if at all as he'll have to include performance escalators in his contract based on starts and injuries.

I say bring back Tillman, Wootten, Anderson for sure.

Melton if he's willing to budge on cost.

Slauson makes sense to re-sign, he's still fairly young.

 

Replace everybody else on D including Peppers, Wright, DJ (Bostic) and Jennings. The Bears will have significant cap room especially considering we'll likely cut Peppers, Hester, Bush and Earl Bennett. The offense looks fine with the exception of adding a speed compliment to the WRs, a Center and a backup TE.

 

I thought Bostic played fine. We can reasonably expect both him and Greene to improve with more snaps. The silver lining with the injuries to the linebackers is to develop for next year. Frey hasn't been exposed, not sure what his grade is at PFF, but he's looked average at least. The defense is really lacking youth and developmental prospects. David Bass looked good yesterday as a 7th round pick.

[rawaction]

I was positive on resigning Wright and Tillman, but Peanut has finished what? 1 game? Wright has been extremely shitty and looks to be much better than Conte who has been terrible. Really bad game yesterday for both.

 

I'm not a 3-4 guy at all, but I feel like teams that change defensive schemes can greatly improve faster. NO has done it this year. GB did it before they became unbeatable. Dallas did it and are the only team to completely shut down the Eagles. Just seems like they need a fresh start. They don't have to be good, just better than they have been. Cant allow a game winning TD and 45 points. No excuse tfor that whatsoever.

[Guest]

I was positive on resigning Wright and Tillman, but Peanut has finished what? 1 game? Wright has been extremely [expletive] and looks to be much better than Conte who has been terrible. Really bad game yesterday for both.

 

I'm not a 3-4 guy at all, but I feel like teams that change defensive schemes can greatly improve faster. NO has done it this year. GB did it before they became unbeatable. Dallas did it and are the only team to completely shut down the Eagles. Just seems like they need a fresh start. They don't have to be good, just better than they have been. Cant allow a game winning TD and 45 points. No excuse tfor that whatsoever.

 

That's one of the main reasons I'm in favor of shifting to the 3-4.

[UK1679666180]

I was positive on resigning Wright and Tillman, but Peanut has finished what? 1 game? Wright has been extremely [expletive] and looks to be much better than Conte who has been terrible. Really bad game yesterday for both.

 

I'm not a 3-4 guy at all, but I feel like teams that change defensive schemes can greatly improve faster. NO has done it this year. GB did it before they became unbeatable. Dallas did it and are the only team to completely shut down the Eagles. Just seems like they need a fresh start. They don't have to be good, just better than they have been. Cant allow a game winning TD and 45 points. No excuse tfor that whatsoever.

 

That's one of the main reasons I'm in favor of shifting to the 3-4.

 

I think it plays into their main strength, which is their LB core. Much easier to bring back Williams and JA or Shea, to have a solid starting core.

 

But, both of you are right, it does seem to jumpstart a defense and if this offense has 2-3 years max, they'll need it.

[Guest]

Just my 2 cents.

Conte and Major Wright are being exposed to the horrific play of the Dline.

 

Cutler will be retained. The injury does not give him much leverage if at all as he'll have to include performance escalators in his contract based on starts and injuries.

I say bring back Tillman, Wootten, Anderson for sure.

Melton if he's willing to budge on cost.

Slauson makes sense to re-sign, he's still fairly young.

 

Replace everybody else on D including Peppers, Wright, DJ (Bostic) and Jennings. The Bears will have significant cap room especially considering we'll likely cut Peppers, Hester, Bush and Earl Bennett. The offense looks fine with the exception of adding a speed compliment to the WRs, a Center and a backup TE.

 

I thought Bostic played fine. We can reasonably expect both him and Greene to improve with more snaps. The silver lining with the injuries to the linebackers is to develop for next year. Frey hasn't been exposed, not sure what his grade is at PFF, but he's looked average at least. The defense is really lacking youth and developmental prospects. David Bass looked good yesterday as a 7th round pick.

 

The safeties were so poor in pass coverage, I'm not sure you can just blame it on the poor d-line.

[Guest]

Is Hardin on the practice squad?

[UK1679666180]

Is Hardin on the practice squad?

 

No, he was cut.

[Guest]

Haha:

 

Emery on McClellin: "In terms of playing team defense, Shea is doing a great job of that."

[Guest]

@mikecwright: Steve Maneri released to make room for Jordan Palmer. Ricardo Lockett also released. Can say it now that it's official.

[jersey cubs fan]

Haha:

 

Emery on McClellin: "In terms of playing team defense, Shea is doing a great job of that."

 

Is he saying something about McClellin keeping contain on the edge, since he's always 10 yards away from the QB?

[Banedon]

Haha:

 

Emery on McClellin: "In terms of playing team defense, Shea is doing a great job of that."

 

Is he saying something about McClellin keeping contain on the edge, since he's always 10 yards away from the QB?

 

He specifically said he thought Shea played the run well.

[UK1679666180]

Haha:

 

Emery on McClellin: "In terms of playing team defense, Shea is doing a great job of that."

 

While being dominated, he is taking one player out of the equation for the opponent.

[UK1679666180]

Haha:

 

Emery on McClellin: "In terms of playing team defense, Shea is doing a great job of that."

 

Is he saying something about McClellin keeping contain on the edge, since he's always 10 yards away from the QB?

 

He specifically said he thought Shea played the run well.

 

He has to defend as much as possible, he bashes him, the next question becomes why did he draft him.

 

I hate stupid answers like that.

[Rex Buckingham]

Say Cutler is indeed out for the season and the Bears finish with around the 10th pick... Do you see if you can get a guy like Sammy Watkins out of Clemson to play in the slot or do you go after some young guys on D?

[treebird]

Say Cutler is indeed out for the season and the Bears finish with around the 10th pick... Do you see if you can get a guy like Sammy Watkins out of Clemson to play in the slot or do you go after some young guys on D?

 

we'll be going after d harder than [whatever inappropriate joke you like]

[Guest]

Say Cutler is indeed out for the season and the Bears finish with around the 10th pick... Do you see if you can get a guy like Sammy Watkins out of Clemson to play in the slot or do you go after some young guys on D?

 

Adding a Sammy Watkins to this offense would make it special but addressing defense has to be the number one priority. Of course it all depends on how the draft plays out by the time they pick.

[cubbyvirus00]

Angelo left this team with only Forte as a somewhat building block for life moving forward. He was an absolute shitty GM who boned this franchise. I'm thinking we need more then 1 draft class to be a real contender. This team can't replenish the defense in 1 season and expect a middle of the pack defensive ranking IMO

[WrigleyField 22]

Angelo left this team with only Forte as a somewhat building block for life moving forward. He was an absolute [expletive] GM who boned this franchise. I'm thinking we need more then 1 draft class to be a real contender. This team can't replenish the defense in 1 season and expect a middle of the pack defensive ranking IMO

Uh, Cutler?

[Splendid Splinter]

Say Cutler is indeed out for the season and the Bears finish with around the 10th pick... Do you see if you can get a guy like Sammy Watkins out of Clemson to play in the slot or do you go after some young guys on D?

 

I am totally on board with Watkins in the draft... assuming that like 90% of that cap space Bears will have this offseason (plus cutting Peppers), goes toward the D. The other 10% goes to re-signing Cutler.

[UMFan83]

Angelo left this team with only Forte as a somewhat building block for life moving forward. He was an absolute [expletive] GM who boned this franchise. I'm thinking we need more then 1 draft class to be a real contender. This team can't replenish the defense in 1 season and expect a middle of the pack defensive ranking IMO

 

I dont know I go back to the fact that the Packers and Giants both had pretty bad defenses the years they won the Super Bowl. It's an offensive league now. If we are legit good on offense and sign a few band aids on D and focus on defense in the draft, we can make due and contend.

[WrigleyField 22]

Say Cutler is indeed out for the season and the Bears finish with around the 10th pick... Do you see if you can get a guy like Sammy Watkins out of Clemson to play in the slot or do you go after some young guys on D?

 

I am totally on board with Watkins in the draft... assuming that like 90% of that cap space Bears will have this offseason (plus cutting Peppers), goes toward the D. The other 10% goes to re-signing Cutler.

I don't think you can pass up a talent like Watkins if we end up in a position to draft him, but I think you need more than FA to build up the D so it puts some pressure to find some mid round hits. There should be some good DL available though in the first and I don't ultimately think we'll be in a position to draft Watkins by combination of him shooting up boards and the Bears not finishing with a worse enough record. Even without Cutler, I'm a little more bullish on the Bears than finishing top 10 range.

[Banedon]

Mike Silver is spreading a bunch of silliness..

 

while it generally has been presumed that Cutler, whose contract expires after the 2013 season, will remain Chicago's quarterback in 2014 and beyond -- whether via the franchise tag or a lucrative, long-term contract -- there is a very real possibility that the Bears' powers that be (Trestman and general manager Phil Emery) will elect to set him free.

 

Yes, Cutler has a great arm and has done his best to adapt to Trestman's system -- his coach told me early in the season that the quarterback had "bought in completely," a statement corroborated by others close to the situation.

 

That said, some of the old, bad habits that dogged Cutler in past regimes, such as waiting too long to throw the ball and holding it too low as he stands in the pocket, have resurfaced at inopportune times. He had four turnovers in the Bears' first defeat of the season, a 40-32 setback to the Detroit Lions three weeks ago. In seven games, he's totaled seven interceptions and four fumbles.

 

Trestman, who was the Oakland Raiders' offensive coordinator during Rich Gannon's MVP season in 2002 and won a pair of Grey Cups in the Canadian Football League with Anthony Calvillo running the Montreal Alouettes' attack, might not place as much of a premium on arm strength as some of his peers.

 

"Think about it -- he had his greatest success with Rich Gannon, who was smart and moved well but wasn't anybody's idea of a big thrower," said one source familiar with the Bears' situation. "If you're him, do you want to spend $20 million a year on Cutler, who might not be the best fit, or do you want to find someone you can mold who's efficient? And if you think about how deep this (next) draft class might be, he can identify his guy and get him relatively cheap for the next few years."

 

I'm not saying this will happen, but the reasoning is sound. If Trestman can finesse a playoff berth despite Cutler's absence, it's tough to imagine the franchise extending a contract offer to the quarterback in the Matt Ryan/Joe Flacco/Tony Romo price range, or even close to it.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000267354/article/sam-bradford-jay-cutler-leave-rams-bears-facing-uncertainty

[UMFan83]

Mike Silver is spreading a bunch of silliness..

 

while it generally has been presumed that Cutler, whose contract expires after the 2013 season, will remain Chicago's quarterback in 2014 and beyond -- whether via the franchise tag or a lucrative, long-term contract -- there is a very real possibility that the Bears' powers that be (Trestman and general manager Phil Emery) will elect to set him free.

 

Yes, Cutler has a great arm and has done his best to adapt to Trestman's system -- his coach told me early in the season that the quarterback had "bought in completely," a statement corroborated by others close to the situation.

 

That said, some of the old, bad habits that dogged Cutler in past regimes, such as waiting too long to throw the ball and holding it too low as he stands in the pocket, have resurfaced at inopportune times. He had four turnovers in the Bears' first defeat of the season, a 40-32 setback to the Detroit Lions three weeks ago. In seven games, he's totaled seven interceptions and four fumbles.

 

Trestman, who was the Oakland Raiders' offensive coordinator during Rich Gannon's MVP season in 2002 and won a pair of Grey Cups in the Canadian Football League with Anthony Calvillo running the Montreal Alouettes' attack, might not place as much of a premium on arm strength as some of his peers.

 

"Think about it -- he had his greatest success with Rich Gannon, who was smart and moved well but wasn't anybody's idea of a big thrower," said one source familiar with the Bears' situation. "If you're him, do you want to spend $20 million a year on Cutler, who might not be the best fit, or do you want to find someone you can mold who's efficient? And if you think about how deep this (next) draft class might be, he can identify his guy and get him relatively cheap for the next few years."

 

I'm not saying this will happen, but the reasoning is sound. If Trestman can finesse a playoff berth despite Cutler's absence, it's tough to imagine the franchise extending a contract offer to the quarterback in the Matt Ryan/Joe Flacco/Tony Romo price range, or even close to it.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000267354/article/sam-bradford-jay-cutler-leave-rams-bears-facing-uncertainty

 

YES WE NEED A GAME MANAGER. Get rid of the million dollar arm that can make throws that most QBs only dream of. We don't need that here.