Random Cubs Musings

[davell]

I remember trading a kid a box of commons for Sandberg 1984 Topps, Donruss, and Fleer rookie cards. Our door bell rang and it was the kids mom. With my box of commons, telling my grandparents her son had taken advantage of me and she was making him undo the deal. This was in 1990. When Sandberg's cards were worth 20-40 dollars or so. My grandparents attempted to reason with the woman, saying I was happy with the deal, but she was adamant that 500 cards were worth more than 3 cards. I was thinking this was the lady's way of getting back the valuable cards, until she finally decided to halve the box of commons between us, with me keeping the Sandbergs.

[Guest]

I had 4 big paper grocery bags full of football and baseball cards from the early 1970s to the late 1980s in my parents basement that my mom tossed a couple of years ago. I'm not sentimental or interested but there had to be some cool cards in there.

[Clem Fandango]

That Trout card is probably a 2nd year card or third year card as there's no "Rookie Card" insignia on it. A good card, but not a valuable card outside of it being worth probably like $10 max. In other words, if you were gonna get him to autograph a card, that was a good one to do it with.

 

To get things grades I think it costs something like $20-$30 just to get one thing graded. Grading can do crazy things to cards. The Griffey Jr UD Rookie Card is only book valued at like $80 or something (maybe a little more or a little less) but I saw a BGS graded 9.5 sell for like $1,500 on Ebay. That's insane. Nuts what grading can do for a products value.

 

http://www.beckett.com/grading/current_promotion_details/SEPTEMBER0914

 

Sounds like if you have multiple cards now is the time to do it. And it looks like they'll certify autographs, too, so you could send the Trout in as well if you want to give it some sort of authenticity.

EDIT: Eh, sounds like it needs to be a certified auto card, like one that was p t in the set. So maybe not. But regular grading is only $12, so it's not terribly expensive.

[Clem Fandango]

I remember trading a kid a box of commons for Sandberg 1984 Topps, Donruss, and Fleer rookie cards. Our door bell rang and it was the kids mom. With my box of commons, telling my grandparents her son had taken advantage of me and she was making him undo the deal. This was in 1990. When Sandberg's cards were worth 20-40 dollars or so. My grandparents attempted to reason with the woman, saying I was happy with the deal, but she was adamant that 500 cards were worth more than 3 cards. I was thinking this was the lady's way of getting back the valuable cards, until she finally decided to halve the box of commons between us, with me keeping the Sandbergs.

 

My brother was gifted that Topps RC for his birthday back when it was $30 and going up. I think it's only worth like $15 now. Unless it went up since his induction into the HOF.

 

I hate how values can change for no seemingly good reason at all. "Oh, this card has been worth $40 for 7 years now? Well now it's $20. Deal with it". MY Fielder Auto RC was worth $120 for a couple years, it's only worth like $60 now, and that was AFTER he had got even better and more popular.

[davell]

I was a Star Wars nerd as a kid and wound up making lots of Star Wars for memorabilia trades in my late teens.

 

As far as memorabilia goes, I bought an absolute [expletive] ton of stuff from a place called Sports Card Heaven(or Haven) out of Florida in my college years. And one day I got my SCD in the mail and they were the lead story for selling fraudulent [expletive] lol. Were actually caught by Dan Marino at a show.

[Splendid Splinter]

That Trout card is probably a 2nd year card or third year card as there's no "Rookie Card" insignia on it. A good card, but not a valuable card outside of it being worth probably like $10 max. In other words, if you were gonna get him to autograph a card, that was a good one to do it with.

 

To get things grades I think it costs something like $20-$30 just to get one thing graded. Grading can do crazy things to cards. The Griffey Jr UD Rookie Card is only book valued at like $80 or something (maybe a little more or a little less) but I saw a BGS graded 9.5 sell for like $1,500 on Ebay. That's insane. Nuts what grading can do for a products value.

 

http://www.beckett.com/grading/current_promotion_details/SEPTEMBER0914

 

Sounds like if you have multiple cards now is the time to do it. And it looks like they'll certify autographs, too, so you could send the Trout in as well if you want to give it some sort of authenticity.

EDIT: Eh, sounds like it needs to be a certified auto card, like one that was p t in the set. So maybe not. But regular grading is only $12, so it's not terribly expensive.

 

 

It's a 2010 card so it's a 2nd year. I was trying to get a 2009 card, but all I saw were refractor auto cards. Do they put a "Rookie Card" insignia for guys like Trout in '09/'10 and even '11 as he wasn't in the majors yet when those cards came out? I've never really paid attention to prospect cards.

 

Thanks for the grading info. What you said about Griffey Jr RC is why I want to get a few of mine graded. Like my '55 Hank Sauer card for example.

[Clem Fandango]

That Trout card is probably a 2nd year card or third year card as there's no "Rookie Card" insignia on it. A good card, but not a valuable card outside of it being worth probably like $10 max. In other words, if you were gonna get him to autograph a card, that was a good one to do it with.

 

To get things grades I think it costs something like $20-$30 just to get one thing graded. Grading can do crazy things to cards. The Griffey Jr UD Rookie Card is only book valued at like $80 or something (maybe a little more or a little less) but I saw a BGS graded 9.5 sell for like $1,500 on Ebay. That's insane. Nuts what grading can do for a products value.

 

http://www.beckett.com/grading/current_promotion_details/SEPTEMBER0914

 

Sounds like if you have multiple cards now is the time to do it. And it looks like they'll certify autographs, too, so you could send the Trout in as well if you want to give it some sort of authenticity.

EDIT: Eh, sounds like it needs to be a certified auto card, like one that was p t in the set. So maybe not. But regular grading is only $12, so it's not terribly expensive.

 

 

It's a 2010 card so it's a 2nd year. I was trying to get a 2009 card, but all I saw were refractor auto cards. Do they put a "Rookie Card" insignia for guys like Trout in '09/'10 and even '11 as he wasn't in the majors yet when those cards came out? I've never really paid attention to prospect cards.

 

Thanks for the grading info. What you said about Griffey Jr RC is why I want to get a few of mine graded. Like my '55 Hank Sauer card for example.

 

If some of those old cards have bvious damage I don't know that I'd spend the coin unless you want to do it to preserve them specifically. Unless it's an elite old card that would benefit from grading regardless of condition, it can bring down card values if the card isn't in above average condition.

 

As for the RC thing, Bowman pretty much has the stranglehold on prospects. Whenever a first Bowman card is released of a prospect, that's considered their true rookie card but it likely won't have the RC insignia. It's considered the RC because it's their first appearance on a baseball card, usually. When they reach the majors they'll get the RC insignia. For example, Topps and UD when they make their basic set, they don't include prospects, it's just every MLB player. If they're a rookie that year, they'll ave a rookie card, which does hold value, but it's not their first card. Back in the day a RC meant it was their first true card, but with stuff like Bowman out there it's not the case any more.

 

Example... 2011 Topps Finest Superfractor Mike Trout Auto RC:

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/8r6DtTU.jpg

 

 

That's the only one in existence and it's from his rookie year. It's currently being offered on Ebay for $11,999 with 93 people watching it. It's the only one in existence, a very valuable card. Now...

 

A 2009 Bowman Chrome Mike Trout Red Refractor Autograph:

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/QESSlBy.jpg?1

 

 

Currently being offered on Ebay for $72,727.27 with 133 people watching. There's only 5 of them in existence. Even if you step down, a gold refractor version, of which there are 50 of, is being offered for $14,999, which is still more than his only-one-in-existence rookie card.

 

Now, they probably won't sell for that much, but what they're asking for shows you how much value people put on their first Bowman cards vs. their rookie cards. They consider the Bowman's to be the true rookie card. It's why Bowman has a "1st Bowman Card" insignia they put on new players cards.

[Pushfrog98]

Read it and weep:

http://imagehost.epier.com/5769/yawn.jpg

[CincyCubsFan]

I need to dig out my old cards one of these days. My friends and I collected for years.

 

I remember when I was 9, my dad used to pick me up a pack of cards on his way home from work every week or so. One day, he brought home two packs of 1993 Upper Deck SP. I pulled three of their foil rookie cards out of those two packs -- Johnny Damon, Manny Ramirez, and Derek Jeter. Last I remember, the Jeter listed for like $100 in Beckett.

 

Those cards have been sitting in screw-down cases for the past 21 years. I've always meant to get them graded. I need to pick up a Beckett one of these days.

[Clem Fandango]

Read it and weep:

http://imagehost.epier.com/5769/yawn.jpg

 

I wonder if that's en error card because it was a mirrored image

[Clem Fandango]

Last I remember, the Jeter listed for like $100 in Beckett.

 

It's still valuable...

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xderek+jeter+upper+deck+sp+rookie+card+foil&_nkw=derek+jeter+upper+deck+sp+rookie+card+foil&_sacat=0

 

It's selling for more than $100 which means it likely books at probably double that at least.

 

Actually, I just checked a sports card forum I used to frequent. Strange... a few years back people were selling them with high grades (9.5 or higher) for like $1,500. But I see some on Ebay that were completed and sold for like $150.

 

Looks like it's book value is probably somewhere in the $150-$300 range. Not sure why there were so many selling for over $1,000 a few years back. Either way, if it's stil in good condition, get it graded immediately. Could make it's value twice as high.

 

Well now it's just random I guess... there are some selling for over $2,000 at 9.5 grades.

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&_nkw=derek+jeter+upper+deck+sp+foil&_sop=16

[CincyCubsFan]

50k for a 10.0? Schwing!!!

[Guest]

One of my favorite parts of randomly seeing old card collections are the ridiculous future star ones that have three dudes I never heard of outside of the card I saw them on in the first place.

 

Yep. My dad and I went through my old baseball cards a couple months ago and it was hilarious looking at those cards. I'd recognize maybe one of the four player on each one and it was rare that one even did anything significant.

[Guest]

The Cubs have used 46 players so far this year, for a net total of 30.7 fWAR:

Name                     fWAR
Edwin Jackson             0.8

 

How is this even possible?

 

Because fWAR uses FIP and Edwin's is only 4.33. bWAR goes by runs allowed so by that metric he's -2.0 for the year.

[Sammys Boombox]

I have a Kerry Wood signed ticket stub from May 6, 1998 in awesome condition. No clue how you get something like that "graded." Long story short my dad's boss is loaded and it was his son's (he was at the game). Somehow my dad's boss got it and gave it to me (I'm guessing his son owed him money). This would have been 2000/2001.

 

Due to the conditions that day there cannot be very many ticket stubs from that game in awesome condition and signed by Wood.

[Guest]

ssr is not going to like addison's shirt

 

[Guest]

maybe he could be the 3rd flowbro

[Gmoney08]

ssr is not going to like addison's shirt

 

 

Where is this at?

[Vinestal]

There are pictures of rookie dress up day being posted on twitter, if I knew how to post pics here I'd post em. Soler as superman, Schilter as Wonder Woman amoung others.

[Vinestal]

@CarrieMuskat: Rosscup was Catwoman, Szczur as Spiderman, Baez was Bat Girl, Hendricks and Jokisch as Mario and Luigi. #Cubs

 

No pics of Baez I need to see that

[Vinestal]

Link to the Instagram pic of the whole rookie team:

http://instagram.com/p/sqWp-tLfrY/

Baez as supergirl apparently lol

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

schlitter as wonder woman, dear god

[Guest]

Has Jose Veras pitched significantly better for Houston this year than he did for the Cubs? Of course he has.

 

2.63 ERA, 3.42 FIP and 1.25 WHIP compared to 8.10, 6.28 and 1.73 with the Cubs.

 

[expletive] you, Jose Veras.

[Outshined_One]

Link to the Instagram pic of the whole rookie team:

http://instagram.com/p/sqWp-tLfrY/

Baez as supergirl apparently lol

 

Pretty sure Soler is Superman, which is apt.

 

I demand a full lineup.

[JennieGarthAlgar]

Contra is Batgirl, Baez is Superwoman?