4/6 Cubs (Villanueva) @ Braves (Teheran) 6:10 p.m. CT, WGN

[Guest]

Marmol aside, this all goes back to not scoring one damn run with the bases loaded and no outs.

 

Fujikawa was awful, Marmol was Marmol, but it's all about stepping on their throat and they just didn't do it.

 

 

Not really.

 

Yeah, no kidding; the game was still easily winnable after the 8th. Winning by one run or eight is the same end result.

 

So scoring a couple runs when they had 1st and 3rd with one out in the seventh or bases loaded with no outs in the eighth with 1-2-3 in the order coming up wouldn't have mattered?

 

It was a total team fail today (sans Villanueva, who was pretty good). The offense could have (and should have) scored more and if the Cubs are up 8-1, there's obviously a better chance they win the game. But the pen should be able to close the game out up 5-1 going into the eighth.

[jersey cubs fan]

So is this still happening because he's a Proven Closer, because Hoyer is fantasizing over getting some 24-year-old A-ball pitching "prospect" at the deadline for him, or because Theo just doesn't care?

 

And which answer is less rage-inducing?

D: Because 2-3 months of good results outweigh 3 appearances.

 

The "good" results were somewhat overrated, and no, they don't necessarily do so in this case.

 

I know people love to spam "sample size," but there's also the matter of extremity. Extremely bad results are less likely to be sample-size flukes than ordinarily bad ones (and the same goes for good). Same argument as we had last year when Brett Jackson had a million Ks in 50 PAs or whatever.

 

13 batters faced:

2 BB

2 HBP

2 HR

2 K

5 BIP

 

That's bad enough to be legitimately concerned over, sample size or no.

Legitimately concerned, sure. Cut and run at first sign of difficulty, no. Velocity seems normal, location seems off, front office likely thinks he should get time to try to get control straightened out.

 

First sign? You'd have a point if that wasn't an absurdly wrong notion.

[jersey cubs fan]

Josh Hamilton is batting .0625 with 8K's in 16AB's. Is he broken, too? Or are we way too early to be drawing meaningful conclusions from what we're seeing.

 

Marmol's stuff is still there and he isn't missing his spots by that much. He'll be fine.

But Hamilton is a stud and marmol is awful. So there baseline of fine aren't comparable, thus comparing them makes no sense.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Marmol aside, this all goes back to not scoring one damn run with the bases loaded and no outs.

 

Fujikawa was awful, Marmol was Marmol, but it's all about stepping on their throat and they just didn't do it.

 

 

Not really.

 

Yeah, no kidding; the game was still easily winnable after the 8th. Winning by one run or eight is the same end result.

 

So scoring a couple runs when they had 1st and 3rd with one out in the seventh or bases loaded with no outs in the eighth with 1-2-3 in the order coming up wouldn't have mattered?

 

It was a total team fail today (sans Villanueva, who was pretty good). The offense could have (and should have) scored more and if the Cubs are up 8-1, there's obviously a better chance they win the game. But the pen should be able to close the game out up 5-1 going into the eighth.

 

Rizzo and Schierholtz say hi.

[Sammy Sofa]

Marmol aside, this all goes back to not scoring one damn run with the bases loaded and no outs.

 

Fujikawa was awful, Marmol was Marmol, but it's all about stepping on their throat and they just didn't do it.

 

 

Not really.

 

Yeah, no kidding; the game was still easily winnable after the 8th. Winning by one run or eight is the same end result.

 

So scoring a couple runs when they had 1st and 3rd with one out in the seventh or bases loaded with no outs in the eighth with 1-2-3 in the order coming up wouldn't have mattered?

 

Of course not, but to say it "all goes back to" them not scoring in those situations isn't accurate; a game is still overwhelmingly in the favor of the team leading, even just by one run, when the final half inning comes up. I was frustrated as hell when they didn't add on, but they still should have walked away with a win being up 5-4.

[23sharks]

Got home yesterday just in time for the fun stuff.....the 8th inning. Turned on the TV, saw they were up, thought I could enjoy the rest of their win. Called my Uncle and said I'm going to test my theory that I'm their jinx, that they really couldn't lose this game, could they????

Good news is I won't watch today.....so Shark probably throws a perfect game......

Seriously though, totally frustrating......

[Cubswin11]

I really wish that Baez for Justin Upton trade went through.....

 

Huh?

Theo reportedly offered Baez for Upton, Towers then asked for Castro for Upton. Towers wouldn't budge off of Castro.

[Tryptamine]

It seems fair right? One team gets asked for Didi Gregorious and the other gets asked for Castro.

[SABR Gamer]

It seems fair right? One team gets asked for Didi Gregorious and the other gets asked for Castro.

 

Gregorious had nothing to do with the Upton trade, unless I am missing information.

[Tryptamine]

It seems fair right? One team gets asked for Didi Gregorious and the other gets asked for Castro.

 

Gregorious had nothing to do with the Upton trade, unless I am missing information.

 

You're right, it was the Bauer trade. I just went brain dead.