2014 Draft Discussion

[mul21]

I heard an interesting interview with Tommy John the other day. He theorizes that there's more pitcher injuries now because these kids don't get the down time to let their arms recover in the off season because they're essentially playing year round. I hadn't heard that particular theory before and coming from a running background, it completely makes sense. I've seen a ton of runners ramp back up too quickly after a marathon and end up injured when if they had taken a month or two and just done some low, easy mileage they more than likely would have avoided any issues. With all the fall ball and summer leagues, these guys just don't get enough of a break.

[Vinestal]

@aaronfitt: I have confirmed that #UNLV ace RHP Erick Fedde will have Tommy John surgery. Was regarded as a potential top-10 overall #mlbdraft pick.

[Guest]

I heard an interesting interview with Tommy John the other day. He theorizes that there's more pitcher injuries now because these kids don't get the down time to let their arms recover in the off season because they're essentially playing year round. I hadn't heard that particular theory before and coming from a running background, it completely makes sense. I've seen a ton of runners ramp back up too quickly after a marathon and end up injured when if they had taken a month or two and just done some low, easy mileage they more than likely would have avoided any issues. With all the fall ball and summer leagues, these guys just don't get enough of a break.

Average fastball velocity is up like 10 mph since TJ pitched. That takes its toll.

[davell]

I heard an interesting interview with Tommy John the other day. He theorizes that there's more pitcher injuries now because these kids don't get the down time to let their arms recover in the off season because they're essentially playing year round. I hadn't heard that particular theory before and coming from a running background, it completely makes sense. I've seen a ton of runners ramp back up too quickly after a marathon and end up injured when if they had taken a month or two and just done some low, easy mileage they more than likely would have avoided any issues. With all the fall ball and summer leagues, these guys just don't get enough of a break.

Average fastball velocity is up like 10 mph since TJ pitched. That takes its toll.

 

That can't be true, can it? Without looking or even if its possible to find this out.... My guess is you'd have to go back to the 50's, maybe even the 40's, to get a 10MPH average discrepancy.

[Guest]

Well, Tommy John pitched for 26 years, so "when he pitched" has a number of interpretations.

[Guest]

I heard an interesting interview with Tommy John the other day. He theorizes that there's more pitcher injuries now because these kids don't get the down time to let their arms recover in the off season because they're essentially playing year round. I hadn't heard that particular theory before and coming from a running background, it completely makes sense. I've seen a ton of runners ramp back up too quickly after a marathon and end up injured when if they had taken a month or two and just done some low, easy mileage they more than likely would have avoided any issues. With all the fall ball and summer leagues, these guys just don't get enough of a break.

Average fastball velocity is up like 10 mph since TJ pitched. That takes its toll.

 

That can't be true, can it? Without looking or even if its possible to find this out.... My guess is you'd have to go back to the 50's, maybe even the 40's, to get a 10MPH average discrepancy.

Yes, I exaggerated. Fastball velocity in MLB averaged 92.0 mph last year across all of baseball. They didn't average 82 mph in the '70's. However, I'd be surprised if the average at that time were as high as 87 mph. There were certainly guys that threw faster, but this is the average of every fastball thrown in the bigs - including your soft-tossing lefties we're talking about.

[RammyFanny]

I might just take Gordon now. Or Jackson if they think he's better, but it sounds like Gordon.

[Redfoot]

Fedde needing Tommy John shouldn't come as a surprise.

 

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[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Fedde needing Tommy John shouldn't come as a surprise.

 

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the dreaded inverted w. or m

[Guest]

Nola was primarily working 90-91 in his last start according to the announcers. Topped out at 94.

 

That's not what you want with the 4th pick.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

It was also a shutout with 9/0 K/BB. Not that I know if Alabama is any good.

[CubInOK]

It was also a shutout with 9/0 K/BB. Not that I know if Alabama is any good.

It's SEC baseball. They're all AA teams.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

It was also a shutout with 9/0 K/BB. Not that I know if Alabama is any good.

It's SEC baseball. They're all AA teams.

That's pretty ridiculous. Any short-season A-ball team would probably be better than every team in college baseball.

[Guest]

It was also a shutout with 9/0 K/BB. Not that I know if Alabama is any good.

It's SEC baseball. They're all AA teams.

That's pretty ridiculous. Any short-season A-ball team would probably be better than every team in college baseball.

 

Haha, you're new here.

[Guest]

It was also a shutout with 9/0 K/BB. Not that I know if Alabama is any good.

 

Alabama is a top 20 team. College stats don't mean much when you're scouting for future potential. His velocity is going to drop a couple mph like every college P when he starts throwing every 5th day and racking up over 150 IP a season.

[imb]

It was also a shutout with 9/0 K/BB. Not that I know if Alabama is any good.

It's SEC baseball. They're all AA teams.

That's pretty ridiculous. Any short-season A-ball team would probably be better than every team in college baseball.

 

Haha, you're new here.

 

Lol hashtag classic

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I want one of the top 3 as much as the next guy, I just don't think you automatically take Jackson or Gordon over Nola.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

It was also a shutout with 9/0 K/BB. Not that I know if Alabama is any good.

It's SEC baseball. They're all AA teams.

That's pretty ridiculous. Any short-season A-ball team would probably be better than every team in college baseball.

 

Haha, you're new here.

 

Lol hashtag classic

what am i missing here

[Guest]

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[Guest]

Daytona News-Journal[/url]"]Chicago Cubs president Theo Epstein stopped by the Jack on Monday night to watch the D-Cubs. Epstein was in the area to scout a high school prospect (Orlando Olympia infielder/RHP Nick Gordon) in preparation for next month's draft. Gordon is the son of retired MLB pitcher Tom “Flash” Gordon, who longtime D-Cubs fans may remember from injury rehab stints here in 2001 and '02.

[imb]

I read nothing about Nick Gordon until people started mentioning him like 2 weeks ago. Even Law only has a brief profile (that I can find) that mostly focuses on "he's flash gordon's son lol but he's not dee gordon."

 

So uh raisin can you hook me up? I love me some athletes.

[A New Era]

He's almost completely unknown to me too. One scout said he likes Gordon better than he liked Lindor back in 2011. I'd love Gordon if he could be a stellar defender with good plate approach and a good bat. With plus speed. I don't know if that's who he is. But you can bet if it is, then our FO will likely draft him.

[RammyFanny]

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 29m

 

Wouldn't say reach, has boosted stock, but not sure I'd take him that high. @Skin_Graph: Aaron Nola at 1.4 too much of a reach? @MLBDraft

[Guest]

Hoffman was my pick of the top four guys. With him going down, I think I'm in the Nick Gordon / Alex Jackson camp. I kinda hate waiting on HS bats to develop at this point, though.

 

ugh, just not excited about anyone here. This would be a perfect year to trade down.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I'd love to trade down and get Nola.