Week 15 Green Bay @ Lovie's Chokers (No GB Fans Allowed)

[rawaction]

That is Hester's fault. But Cutler tried to force that throw, to a WR that you can't force the ball too. Some of that is on Cutler. His 3 INTs the last 2 games have led to 21 of the 35 points the D has allowed.

[Soul]

So typical that I was just thinking how, on balance, things were going well.

[SpongeWorthy]

You know Cutler didn't have to throw that ball in the first place. But nothing is ever his fault around here.

 

He's just a guy at this point.

 

Yeah, it's not like it was painfully obvious that the defender read Hester like the moronic open book that he is or anything.

 

KYP. The QB should know that more than anyone.

 

How about Cutler double pumping flat footed in the pocket? That's not taught at any level of football.

[Careless]

Carimi at RT now? ha

[Wilson A2000]

You know Cutler didn't have to throw that ball in the first place. But nothing is ever his fault around here.

 

He's just a guy at this point.

 

Qbs have to be able to throw to a spot. All good qbs do.

 

You can't expect Hester to be able to know how to do that. Jay has to know that by now. Hester can only be thrown to when he's clearly open.

Edited December 16, 2012 by Wilson A2000

[mul21]

I fully believe that was Hester's fault.

same

 

Yeah, it's hard to believe Cutler would make that kind of throw. It's not a difficult pass.

 

It's hard to believe Cutler would make a dreadful decision/pass?

 

Have you followed his career? He exhibits dreadful footwork in the pocket and compounds it by thinking he can stick any throw.

 

Going down this path after a play where Hester clearly ran the wrong route is really pretty pointless.

[Old Style]

Great. Now Scott is hurt.

[kujay]

Lovie you gutless piece of [expletive]. Get that son of a bitch out of town now.

[Careless]

You know Cutler didn't have to throw that ball in the first place. But nothing is ever his fault around here.

 

He's just a guy at this point.

 

Yeah, it's not like it was painfully obvious that the defender read Hester like the moronic open book that he is or anything.

I don't know how reading Hester would help if Hester doesn't know his own route

[Sammy Sofa]

That is Hester's fault. But Cutler tried to force that throw, to a WR that you can't force the ball too.

 

The [expletive] you can't. At the very least you should be able to expect that your receiver is going to be in the vicinity of the ball and can fight for it, even if it's just to prevent a pick.

[Guest]

You know Cutler didn't have to throw that ball in the first place. But nothing is ever his fault around here.

 

He's just a guy at this point.

Excuse me while I ignore the QB analysis of a guy who thinks Mark Sanchez is good.

[rawaction]

Fans are stupid. Yeah, go for the score with 28 seconds left and no kicker right after throwing an INT.

[BigSlick]

So typical that I was just thinking how, on balance, things were going well.

Yeah I mean I have been histrionic in this thread but theres basically no universe that the Bears win this game in

 

To go back to general manager decisions though: You can't force a team to play a player that CAN'T PLAY even when its tacitly acknowledge he's done as a Bears. Its bad football, its bad economics. Sunk cost, sunk cost, sunk cost.

Edited December 16, 2012 by BigSlick

[Fred Hornkohl]

                 1  2  3  4      T
Green Bay        0 14           14
BEARS            0  7            7

 

 

Half

 

 

             Green Bay         BEARS
First downs         10             7
Total Yards        196           123
Passing            151            51
Rushing             45            72
Sacked / yds      3/13          1/07
Yds per rush       3.8           4.5
Yds per pass att   7.5           6.4
Penalties / yds   3/26          4/25
Turnovers            0             1
Punts / avg       3/36          4/35
Time of Poss.    14:29         15:31

 

 

 

Green Bay                                             BEARS


Passing                                               Passing
            Comp  Att  Yds   TD  Int Rating                       Comp  Att  Yds   TD  Int Rating
A Rodgers      14   22  164    2    0 116.48          J Cutler        6    9   58    1    1  81.94

Rushing                                               Rushing
               Car  Yds   Avg   TD  Lng                              Car  Yds   Avg   TD  Long
A Green           7   31   4.4    0    8              M Forte          13   58   4.5    0   22    
A Rodgers         1    6   6.0    0    6              J Cutler          1    9   9.0    0    9    
J Kuhn            1    4   4.0    0    4              A Allen           2    5   2.5    0    3    
R Grant           3    4   1.3    0    2                                                          
                                                     Receiving
Receiving                                                             Rec  Yds   Avg   TD  Lng
               Rec  Yds   Avg   TD  Lng              B Marshall        4   34   8.5    1   15    
R Cobb            4   76  19.0    0   31              A Allen           1   15  15.0    0   15    
J Jones           3   43  14.3    2   29              M Forte           1    9   9.0    0    9    
J Finley          3   21   7.0    0    8                                                          
G Jennings        1   19  19.0    0   19                                                          
A Green           1    7   7.0    0    7                                                          

[Sammy Sofa]

You know Cutler didn't have to throw that ball in the first place. But nothing is ever his fault around here.

 

He's just a guy at this point.

 

Yeah, it's not like it was painfully obvious that the defender read Hester like the moronic open book that he is or anything.

I don't know how reading Hester would help if Hester doesn't know his own route

 

Because reading Hester amounts to, "holy [expletive], what is that idiot doing? Even I know how this play is supposed to work."

[Soul]

So typical that I was just thinking how, on balance, things were going well.

Yeah I mean I have been histrionic in this thread but theres basically no universe that the Bears win this game in

 

I mean, that's OK but they were competing just fine. No reason to just blow up in 5 seconds.

Edited December 16, 2012 by Soul

[SpongeWorthy]

You know Cutler didn't have to throw that ball in the first place. But nothing is ever his fault around here.

 

He's just a guy at this point.

Excuse me while I ignore the QB analysis of a guy who thinks Mark Sanchez is good.

 

I said his first three seasons were following a reasonably good developmental path, but ok.

 

[expletive] off.

[rawaction]

That is Hester's fault. But Cutler tried to force that throw, to a WR that you can't force the ball too.

 

The [expletive] you can't. At the very least you should be able to expect that your receiver is going to be in the vicinity of the ball and can fight for it, even if it's just to prevent a pick.

 

At some point, you have to realize it's been 4 years and Hester hasn't done that ever. That was a forced throw. The underneath WR was open.

[Banedon]

Can figure out what cutler was saying there. "F these stupid......"

[Sammy Sofa]

You know Cutler didn't have to throw that ball in the first place. But nothing is ever his fault around here.

 

He's just a guy at this point.

 

Yeah, it's not like it was painfully obvious that the defender read Hester like the moronic open book that he is or anything.

 

KYP. The QB should know that more than anyone.

 

How about Cutler double pumping flat footed in the pocket? That's not taught at any level of football.

 

Cutler has flaws up the butt. That play ended in disaster because of Hester.

[scarey]

Fans are stupid. Yeah, go for the score with 28 seconds left and no kicker right after throwing an INT.

 

And with a new right tackle that was removed from the position earlier in the year.

[kujay]

Fans are stupid. Yeah, go for the score with 28 seconds left and no kicker right after throwing an INT.

 

Let's just pack up and call it a game then.

[BigSlick]

Has Cutler completed a pass to a wide reciever other than Marshall today? I know he's thrown a couple to Forte

[Soul]

He can't run an offense. His defenses collapse in the 2nd half of the season.

 

His choices for coordinator are extremely suspect.

 

His drafts are marginal.

 

And -- the idea of good discipline and good coaching is out the window.

 

What exactly does Lovie offer as a head coach now?

[scarey]

Fans are stupid. Yeah, go for the score with 28 seconds left and no kicker right after throwing an INT.

 

Let's just pack up and call it a game then.

 

Or... you go into half, try to make some adjustments, show your new right tackle some looks at the defense, get your QB cooled down, and see if you can come back from a daunting 7 point deficit in more than 28 seconds.