Tony Campana

[oldunclemark]

To all..

 

 

I think 'Little Tony' is the perfect leadoff man and a solid underrated defensive player..

..but he cant fall behind in the count and strikeout so much in the leadoff spot..

He's part of the reason we get shut out...so much

 

He can be a major success by just hitting ground balls..no one has an answer for him defensively onthe bases...but he seems so anxious.

I want to stick with him..because if he can gain confidence and hit line drives and ground

balls 90% of the time...he'd be a major force..a player unlike any other in the Cubs organization...

 

...but eventually (re: the all-star break) Brett Jackson gets to Chicago and takes his place...

...making him a bench player forever..

 

In a lost season..what do you want to do with Tony Campana.?

[Bote McBoteface]

He adds value on the bases. He isn't good in the leadoff spot because he isn't a good hitter. You keep him on the bench to pinch run until your roster becomes too talented to keep him on it just to run.

[manbearcub]

In a lost season I don't really care what he does. But on a good team I love him as a 25th man.

[Guest]

something something thick onion gravy in your car?

[Sosa21MVP]

On a good team, I'd say he is a nice bench player for pinch-running and defensive replacement. In other words, I could see keeping him in the 25 man roster going forward but as a starter, not so much.

[Little Slide Rooter]

As long as he's cheap, he's perfectly fine for what he is. I'd certainly take him over giving Reed Johnson or a similar player another 1.25 mil. He's a great fielder and set of legs, but what it comes down to is that unless he can work on getting the OBP higher, and more complete players like Jackson, Sappelt, Szczur, and maybe Ha and Andreoli coming up behind him in the not too distant future, he'll be on borrowed time and likely be kicked around the league for the next several years between AAA and the bigs.

[biittner77]

Tony Campana: A Doug Dascenzo for the new generation of Cub fans. Unless he sleeps with Castro's wife, in which case he becomes Dave Martinez.

[CyHawk_Cub]

:shrug: Campana is what he is--a bench guy to spot start & use as a late inning pinch runner. Cubs have much bigger issues than what to do w/ Tony Campana.

[sneakypower]

we're still waiting on Campana's first career FB hit

[Ding Dong Johnson]

we're still waiting on Campana's first career FB hit

Clearly he should only bunt or hit line drives.

[oldunclemark]

All good answers..(except the food channel response) :-k

 

But what do you want to do right NOW... until September when Jackson gets here

 

Give him a chance to prove himself and be Juan Pierre....(who played on a title team)

 

....or give upon him after 13 of a season...at age 26.. Do you KNOW how good he can get?

 

He has never hit homers and has never driven in runs. but he;s stolen 50-60

 

And we dont have a better defensive center fielder..

 

Eventually..Bret Jackson plays CF....1/2 of his hits are extra base hits..and he steals, too

 

Jackson is Campana on steroids.

 

...

 

 

What Campana is auditioning for is the LF spot when Sori is gone...

 

He is NOT the new regime's kind of player who takes picthes and gets deep in the count.

 

CHOICES:

 

1. Play his only against righties....and cite the numbers

 

2. Drop him to the 2nd or 8th spot and play him against everybody..in the hope that he starts making more contact...Its a lost season. You may find a gem. He really hasnt started that many games yet...and he's always hit

 

3. Give up on him as an everyday player...and tell him that some folks are netter suited for bench play.

Play 'Super Joe' Mather everyday and use Campana as the pinch run/base steal weapon off the bench.

Ask him to accept that role....like Reed Johnson and Jeff baker accept their bit roles.

Tell him the alternative to such acceptance is Iowa.

 

4. Do Dusty a favor and trade him to Cincy where he'd be a hometown hero and would help their pennant drive.

If you ever listen to Cincy radio when they play the Cubs. They love him.

[Cubswin11]

As long as he's cheap, he's perfectly fine for what he is. I'd certainly take him over giving Reed Johnson or a similar player another 1.25 mil. He's a great fielder and set of legs, but what it comes down to is that unless he can work on getting the OBP higher, and more complete players like Jackson, Sappelt, Szczur, and maybe Ha and Andreoli coming up behind him in the not too distant future, he'll be on borrowed time and likely be kicked around the league for the next several years between AAA and the bigs.

Do the stats back that? I know there is a pretty small sample size. I hear people say that he is a great fielder all the time, but is that just because he is fast and hustles? Or is he really a good fielder?

[oldunclemark]

As long as he's cheap, he's perfectly fine for what he is. I'd certainly take him over giving Reed Johnson or a similar player another 1.25 mil. He's a great fielder and set of legs, but what it comes down to is that unless he can work on getting the OBP higher, and more complete players like Jackson, Sappelt, Szczur, and maybe Ha and Andreoli coming up behind him in the not too distant future, he'll be on borrowed time and likely be kicked around the league for the next several years between AAA and the bigs.

Do the stats back that? I know there is a pretty small sample size. I hear people say that he is a great fielder all the time, but is that just because he is fast and hustles? Or is he really a good fielder?

 

 

There are no fielding stats (not even the newer ones) that are accurate...for outfielders...

 

You cant judge him much fastre he is than Sori..How many more balls he'd get to.

 

Sometimes just getting to the ball stops the runner.

 

You can only use the 'eye-test on that..

 

He has speed that takes away hits..obviously and his arm is average.

 

 

But you are right, in my mind. his sample size is VERY small.

 

He's been used as a bit player until now and he hasnt played as much as we think he has...

 

 

Dale has been patient with him the last week..as Dale has been with Ian Stewart..who has much more of a track record ..

 

For the record..I'd play him against right handers and use him as the 'bench weapon' when lefties start.

 

If Sori is moved this year..LaHair will go to left and Tony would be the late inning 'caddy'

[oldunclemark]

As long as he's cheap, he's perfectly fine for what he is. I'd certainly take him over giving Reed Johnson or a similar player another 1.25 mil. He's a great fielder and set of legs, but what it comes down to is that unless he can work on getting the OBP higher, and more complete players like Jackson, Sappelt, Szczur, and maybe Ha and Andreoli coming up behind him in the not too distant future, he'll be on borrowed time and likely be kicked around the league for the next several years between AAA and the bigs.

Do the stats back that? I know there is a pretty small sample size. I hear people say that he is a great fielder all the time, but is that just because he is fast and hustles? Or is he really a good fielder?

 

 

There are no fielding stats (not even the newer ones) that are accurate...for outfielders...

 

You cant judge him much fastre he is than Sori..How many more balls he'd get to.

 

Sometimes just getting to the ball stops the runner.

 

You can only use the 'eye-test on that..

 

He has speed that takes away hits..obviously and his arm is average.

 

 

But you are right, in my mind. his sample size is VERY small.

 

He's been used as a bit player until now and he hasnt played as much as we think he has...

 

 

Dale has been patient with him the last week..as Dale has been with Ian Stewart..who has much more of a track record ..

 

For the record..I'd play him against right handers and use him as the 'bench weapon' when lefties start.

 

If Sori is moved this year..LaHair will go to left and Tony would be the late inning 'caddy'

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Your writing style is ... interesting?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Peculiar maybe?

[Little Slide Rooter]

As long as he's cheap, he's perfectly fine for what he is. I'd certainly take him over giving Reed Johnson or a similar player another 1.25 mil. He's a great fielder and set of legs, but what it comes down to is that unless he can work on getting the OBP higher, and more complete players like Jackson, Sappelt, Szczur, and maybe Ha and Andreoli coming up behind him in the not too distant future, he'll be on borrowed time and likely be kicked around the league for the next several years between AAA and the bigs.

Do the stats back that? I know there is a pretty small sample size. I hear people say that he is a great fielder all the time, but is that just because he is fast and hustles? Or is he really a good fielder?

 

I know what you're saying. I mean that in the sense that he's gritty and gives it his all ala Reed Johnson, Sam Fuld , and various other small white guys that managers and casual fans love.

[Cubswin11]

As long as he's cheap, he's perfectly fine for what he is. I'd certainly take him over giving Reed Johnson or a similar player another 1.25 mil. He's a great fielder and set of legs, but what it comes down to is that unless he can work on getting the OBP higher, and more complete players like Jackson, Sappelt, Szczur, and maybe Ha and Andreoli coming up behind him in the not too distant future, he'll be on borrowed time and likely be kicked around the league for the next several years between AAA and the bigs.

Do the stats back that? I know there is a pretty small sample size. I hear people say that he is a great fielder all the time, but is that just because he is fast and hustles? Or is he really a good fielder?

 

 

There are no fielding stats (not even the newer ones) that are accurate...for outfielders...

 

You cant judge him much fastre he is than Sori..How many more balls he'd get to.

 

Sometimes just getting to the ball stops the runner.

 

You can only use the 'eye-test on that..

 

He has speed that takes away hits..obviously and his arm is average.

But you are right, in my mind. his sample size is VERY small.

 

He's been used as a bit player until now and he hasnt played as much as we think he has...

 

 

Dale has been patient with him the last week..as Dale has been with Ian Stewart..who has much more of a track record ..

 

For the record..I'd play him against right handers and use him as the 'bench weapon' when lefties start.

 

If Sori is moved this year..LaHair will go to left and Tony would be the late inning 'caddy'

 

I know he's fast, but just because you are fast and dive at a lot of balls doesn't make you a good defensive OF if you take shitty routes/can't read a ball off the bat/have a bad arm you can be the fastest player in the league (Pierre/Nyjer Moragn) and still be bad defensively. I haven't watched enough games with him in to really know if he's a good fielder by the eye test. Just wanted to know what the defensive metrics say on him.

[chuckywang]

The kid plays hard and everything, but come on ... .277/.319/.313/.632 players are a dime a dozen.

[sneakypower]

sure they are, if you completely ignore speed, which provides significant value for him

 

just factoring in SB (with wOBA), you see that his .616 OPS the last two seasons has actually been (ever so slightly) more productive than Barney's .687 OPS and Soto's .690 OPS

Edited June 7, 2012 by sneakypower

[MembersOnlyJacket]

Nothing like a little white dude with intangibles to tug at the heart strings of Cub fans.

 

He's somewhere between a Doug Dascenzo and a high-ceiling Dave Roberts.

[Sammy Sofa]

Your writing style is ... interesting?

 

I didn't think someone could make it sound like they were out of breath through the words they typed...yet here we are.

[NewUserName]

I want him to play everyday this season so he can prove to the meatballs that he is not an everyday player.

[Cubswin11]

I want him to play everyday this season so he can prove to the meatballs that he is not an everyday player.

As long as he keeps bunting, attempting steals, diving for balls in the OF and sliding into first, it won't matter what his stat line is at the end of the year they will still be demanding he be the Cubs starting CF for the next decade.

[Smack]

we're still waiting on Campana's first career FB hit

 

How is that possible, good God.