2012 Draft Day Thread + Cubs Picks Discussion

[davell]

I think Underwood will get signed, but I kind of agree with Craig. His struggles this past year should factor in to where he's ranked in our system. Blackburn seems much more polished and a much safer bet to become a help to us in the future. But I do love Underwood's possible upside.

 

On a side note, the PSD guys seem to treat ABTY as if he's Marlin. I don't see it. To my knowledge, he's never actually broken anything and when he comes in with something substantial, there always ends up a caveat at the end, that kind of lets him off the hook. I'm sure he knows a few scouts, but he's not nearly on the same level as Marlin. Not in my eyes.

[El Duderino]

Mariners signed Zunino for 1.2 million under slot.

[davell]

Muskat tweeted 18 of our top 20 picks have signed, so evidently Justin Amlung has signed.

[Wrigley Rat]

The Chicago Cubs have thus far signed 18 of their first 20 picks and 27 players overall selected in the 2012 First-Year Player Draft, including right-handed pitcher Ryan McNeil out of Nipomo (Calif.) High School, who was selected by the Cubs in the third round of the draft.

 

In addition to McNeil, the list of new Cubs signees includes right-handed pitcher Trey Lang (sixth round), right-handed pitcher Justin Amlung (12th round) and infielder David Bote (18th round).

 

McNeil, 18, logged a 1.10 ERA and held the opposition to a .175 batting average last season for Nipomo High School. He struck out 94 hitters in 57.1 innings pitched, good for an average of 14.76 strikeouts per 9.0 innings, while walking just 21 hitters. The 6-foot-3, 210-pound McNeil hit .392 (20-for-51) with four doubles, a triple, two home runs and 18 RBI.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120703&content_id=34381026&vkey=pr_chc&c_id=chc

[ctcf]

In case someone was still worried for some reason:

 

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisBA

Yes. Don't sweat it. Can spend almost $5 mil combined if will eat tax. @bengrimley: think #Cubs can get Underwood and Almora? #mlbdraft

[BeerHere]

In case someone was still worried for some reason:

 

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisBA

Yes. Don't sweat it. Can spend almost $5 mil combined if will eat tax. @bengrimley: think #Cubs can get Underwood and Almora? #mlbdraft

Who gets the proceeds of the "tax"?

[Vinestal]

In case someone was still worried for some reason:

 

Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisBA

Yes. Don't sweat it. Can spend almost $5 mil combined if will eat tax. @bengrimley: think #Cubs can get Underwood and Almora? #mlbdraft

Who gets the proceeds of the "tax"?

I believe it goes into a pool and then to low revenue teams in some manor.

[Rizzo Smash]

Dunder_wood3 Next week I will officially be a Major League Baseball player for the Chicago Cubs Organization #gocubs

https://twitter.com/Dunder_wood3/status/221035698294231040

[El Duderino]

Yeeeesshhhh

[Guest]

19 down...1 to go.

[CyHawk_Cub]

Dunder_wood3 Next week I will officially be a Major League Baseball player for the Chicago Cubs Organization #gocubs

https://twitter.com/Dunder_wood3/status/221035698294231040

 

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :good: :good: :good:

[davell]

Awesome. Highest upside arm in the system? I guess it's either him or Maples.

[tgkimmel]

Should make the Almora negotiation simple. "This is how much we have, want it?"

[Guest]

Should make the Almora negotiation simple. "This is how much we have, want it?"

Except we still want some left over to sign some upside guys from later rounds.

[pitchcs]

Should make the Almora negotiation simple. "This is how much we have, want it?"

Except we still want some left over to sign some upside guys from later rounds.

 

Haha, simple for Boras. "This is how much you have left, we want it!"

[Guest]

Should make the Almora negotiation simple. "This is how much we have, want it?"

Except we still want some left over to sign some upside guys from later rounds.

 

Haha, simple for Boras. "This is how much you have left, we want it!"

There ya go.

[davell]

Underwood got 1.050 mill.

[Rizzo Smash]

Underwood got 1.050 mill.

http://ht.ly/c39Yy

The Cubs and Duane Underwood have agreed on a $1.05 million bonus, pending a physical on Monday. That's the third-highest bonus in the second round this year, trailing only Carson Kelly ($1.6 million, Cardinals) and Joe DeCarlo ($1.3 million, Mariners).

 

A righthander from Pope HS in Marietta, Ga., Underwood was inconsistent this spring but lights out at his best. At times, his fastball sits at 91-94 mph and tops out at 98, and he also shows aptitude for spinning a curveball. One of the youngest players in the 2012 draft—he doesn't turn 18 until July 20—he had committed to Georgia.

 

Though Underwood's bonus exceeds the $769,600 assigned value for his No. 67 slot, the Cubs are still $276,200 under budget for their signings in the top 10 rounds. Their only unsigned player in that range is No. 6 overall choice Albert Almora, whom Chicago can pay up to $3,922,895 without forfeiting a future first-round selection.

[Guest]

Up-to-minute figures:

 

2012 Bonus Pool: $7,933,900

2012 Bonus Pool Including 5% Overage: $8,330,595

2012 Bonus Pool Spending: $4,407,700

2012 Bonus Pool +/-: $276,200 Under Budget

2012 Bonus Pool +/- Including 5% Overage: $510,395 Under Budget

 

That means the Cubs can offer up to $3,922,895 to Almora without forfeiting a draft pick next year. Obviously that means they can't pay a cent more than $100,000 to any of their other unsigned picks.

[Guest]

Up-to-minute figures:

 

2012 Bonus Pool: $7,933,900

2012 Bonus Pool Including 5% Overage: $8,330,595

2012 Bonus Pool Spending: $4,407,700

2012 Bonus Pool +/-: $276,200 Under Budget

2012 Bonus Pool +/- Including 5% Overage: $510,395 Under Budget

 

That means the Cubs can offer up to $3,760,395 to Almora without forfeiting a draft pick next year. Obviously that means they can't pay a cent more than $100,000 to any of their other unsigned picks.

Shouldn't the number they can offer Almora simply be the pool including 5% overage - current spending? That would be a shade over $3.9M.

[Guest]

Up-to-minute figures:

 

2012 Bonus Pool: $7,933,900

2012 Bonus Pool Including 5% Overage: $8,330,595

2012 Bonus Pool Spending: $4,407,700

2012 Bonus Pool +/-: $276,200 Under Budget

2012 Bonus Pool +/- Including 5% Overage: $510,395 Under Budget

 

That means the Cubs can offer up to $3,760,395 to Almora without forfeiting a draft pick next year. Obviously that means they can't pay a cent more than $100,000 to any of their other unsigned picks.

Shouldn't the number they can offer Almora simply be the pool including 5% overage - current spending? That would be a shade over $3.9M.

 

Yes. Time to check my math and see why my figures didn't match up.

 

Anyways, the max Almora can be offered is actually $3,922,895. Let me edit that post.

[davell]

I'd honestly have liked our draft more if we had taken Fried and had the rest of that cash to spend on some of our guys after the 10th round. Granted, if Almora signs for close to slot and we still get a few of the others, I'm happy. But I figure that winds up being the price for dealing with Boras. And if it is, I really hope we can avoid him next draft, if possible.

[illiniguy]

I'd honestly have liked our draft more if we had taken Fried and had the rest of that cash to spend on some of our guys after the 10th round. Granted, if Almora signs for close to slot and we still get a few of the others, I'm happy. But I figure that winds up being the price for dealing with Boras. And if it is, I really hope we can avoid him next draft, if possible.

I don't think we should avoid Boras, he has the best talent.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'd honestly have liked our draft more if we had taken Fried and had the rest of that cash to spend on some of our guys after the 10th round. Granted, if Almora signs for close to slot and we still get a few of the others, I'm happy. But I figure that winds up being the price for dealing with Boras. And if it is, I really hope we can avoid him next draft, if possible.

 

Rehash No. 15 of this same idea, but paaaaasss. We liked Almora. We thought Almora was the best talent available. I don't want to be making suboptimal picks in the top 10 of the first round just so we can try to grab a few extra 4th-round talents in the 11th round and onward.

[Guest]

Agree with illiniguy and Kyle.