5/18 White Sox (Humber) @ Cubs (SHARK) 1:20 WGN

[rocket]

winners wins these types of games

 

same with last night

 

You're the worst

 

The 2008 Cubs would've won it

 

I'm not implying this team is supposed to win, but it's still as painful as ever to watch.

 

The 2008 Cubs did lose baseball games.

 

but they ALWAYS came back down by 1 run with a runner on 2nd with 2 outs in the 9th inning.

Edited May 18, 2012 by rocket

[Guest]

winners wins these types of games

 

same with last night

 

You're the worst

 

The 2008 Cubs would've won it

 

 

What does that even mean?

[Schwarber Fan]

winners wins these types of games

 

same with last night

 

You're the worst

 

The 2008 Cubs would've won it

 

 

What does that even mean?

 

I'm just stating the obvious I guess... I just HATE losing to the White Sox.

[salukifudd]

Bruce Levine from espn1000 said Kerry has had a slight tear in his rotater cuff for years, not sure how true that is.

 

That's true. It isn't new information, either.

 

I didn't know, guess it explains what has transpired today.

[rocket]

Kerry Wood press conference

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=16645266&c_id=CHC&content_id=21544245&partnerId=aw-6916002559788803855-1023

[Bryants Disco Ball]

He knew going into the season that he was going to be on a bad team. As for being bad, yes he has been bad but it has been more lack of control than anything. I'm pretty sure if his arm was feeling strong he would have wanted to work through his control issues and finish the season rather than just quit.

 

I don't think he saw this team being so bad so early. There was still hope at the time they brought him back that they would actually go out and bring in players to help the team. But they are winning less than 40% of their games and he's been terrible, so I think that plays a part.

 

Respect your opinion, but will have to totally disagree. I'm quite certain he knew the team wasn't going to be good, and no, there wasn't much hope that when he signed that they were going to bring in players to help considering it was already the middle of January.

[jersey cubs fan]

He knew going into the season that he was going to be on a bad team. As for being bad, yes he has been bad but it has been more lack of control than anything. I'm pretty sure if his arm was feeling strong he would have wanted to work through his control issues and finish the season rather than just quit.

 

I don't think he saw this team being so bad so early. There was still hope at the time they brought him back that they would actually go out and bring in players to help the team. But they are winning less than 40% of their games and he's been terrible, so I think that plays a part.

 

Respect your opinion, but will have to totally disagree. I'm quite certain he knew the team wasn't going to be good, and no, there wasn't much hope that when he signed that they were going to bring in players to help considering it was already the middle of January.

 

there were still players out there to be signed

[Little Slide Rooter]

winners wins these types of games

 

same with last night

 

You're the worst

 

The 2008 Cubs would've won it

 

I'm not implying this team is supposed to win, but it's still as painful as ever to watch.

 

The 2008 Cubs did lose baseball games.

 

At least 3 that I can remember :(

[Bryants Disco Ball]

He knew going into the season that he was going to be on a bad team. As for being bad, yes he has been bad but it has been more lack of control than anything. I'm pretty sure if his arm was feeling strong he would have wanted to work through his control issues and finish the season rather than just quit.

 

I don't think he saw this team being so bad so early. There was still hope at the time they brought him back that they would actually go out and bring in players to help the team. But they are winning less than 40% of their games and he's been terrible, so I think that plays a part.

 

Respect your opinion, but will have to totally disagree. I'm quite certain he knew the team wasn't going to be good, and no, there wasn't much hope that when he signed that they were going to bring in players to help considering it was already the middle of January.

 

there were still players out there to be signed

 

Yes, but none that the Cubs planned to sign. As much as the fans might have been hoping that Prince Fielder would be signed or some stud pitcher was going to be traded for, that was never the plan this offseason.

 

I'm just confident that on Jan. 13, with spring training a month away, that Kerry Wood did not re-sign with the Cubs thinking that a bunch of pieces were soon going to be in place for this team to be any sort of good.

[Guest]

 

Yes, but none that the Cubs planned to sign. As much as the fans might have been hoping that Prince Fielder would be signed or some stud pitcher was going to be traded for, that was never the plan this offseason.

 

I'm just confident that on Jan. 13, with spring training a month away, that Kerry Wood did not re-sign with the Cubs thinking that a bunch of pieces were soon going to be in place for this team to be any sort of good.

 

Clearly, you know this.

 

 

That's why they bid on Darvish. That's why they reportedly made offers to both Pujols and Fielder (both of whom they were, unsurprisingly, outbid on because AL teams have more leeway to go nuts on guys like that).

 

But, since it didn't happen, that was never in the plans.

[Guest]

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[Rizzo Smash]

winners wins these types of games

 

same with last night

 

You're the worst

 

The 2008 Cubs would've won it

 

 

What does that even mean?

 

I'm just stating the obvious I guess... I just HATE losing to the White Sox.

Who cares about the White Sox?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

 

Yes, but none that the Cubs planned to sign. As much as the fans might have been hoping that Prince Fielder would be signed or some stud pitcher was going to be traded for, that was never the plan this offseason.

 

I'm just confident that on Jan. 13, with spring training a month away, that Kerry Wood did not re-sign with the Cubs thinking that a bunch of pieces were soon going to be in place for this team to be any sort of good.

 

Clearly, you know this.

 

 

That's why they bid on Darvish. That's why they reportedly made offers to both Pujols and Fielder (both of whom they were, unsurprisingly, outbid on because AL teams have more leeway to go nuts on guys like that).

 

But, since it didn't happen, that was never in the plans.

 

 

There were reports that they didn't make serious bids on either of those players. Interesting that you choose to take one set of reports as gospel and completely ignore the others.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

 

Yes, but none that the Cubs planned to sign. As much as the fans might have been hoping that Prince Fielder would be signed or some stud pitcher was going to be traded for, that was never the plan this offseason.

 

I'm just confident that on Jan. 13, with spring training a month away, that Kerry Wood did not re-sign with the Cubs thinking that a bunch of pieces were soon going to be in place for this team to be any sort of good.

 

Clearly, you know this.

 

 

That's why they bid on Darvish. That's why they reportedly made offers to both Pujols and Fielder (both of whom they were, unsurprisingly, outbid on because AL teams have more leeway to go nuts on guys like that).

 

But, since it didn't happen, that was never in the plans.

 

The Cubs didn't sign any of them. Had they wanted to, they could have. That's my evidence.

 

Where is yours?

[Guest]

 

Yes, but none that the Cubs planned to sign. As much as the fans might have been hoping that Prince Fielder would be signed or some stud pitcher was going to be traded for, that was never the plan this offseason.

 

I'm just confident that on Jan. 13, with spring training a month away, that Kerry Wood did not re-sign with the Cubs thinking that a bunch of pieces were soon going to be in place for this team to be any sort of good.

 

Clearly, you know this.

 

 

That's why they bid on Darvish. That's why they reportedly made offers to both Pujols and Fielder (both of whom they were, unsurprisingly, outbid on because AL teams have more leeway to go nuts on guys like that).

 

But, since it didn't happen, that was never in the plans.

 

 

There were reports that they didn't make serious bids on either of those players. Interesting that you choose to take one set of reports as gospel and completely ignore the others.

 

Because all I have to do is present evidence for the possibility that they were to refute his statement that they weren't in the plans, which he obviously knows somehow.

[Guest]

 

Yes, but none that the Cubs planned to sign. As much as the fans might have been hoping that Prince Fielder would be signed or some stud pitcher was going to be traded for, that was never the plan this offseason.

 

I'm just confident that on Jan. 13, with spring training a month away, that Kerry Wood did not re-sign with the Cubs thinking that a bunch of pieces were soon going to be in place for this team to be any sort of good.

 

Clearly, you know this.

 

 

That's why they bid on Darvish. That's why they reportedly made offers to both Pujols and Fielder (both of whom they were, unsurprisingly, outbid on because AL teams have more leeway to go nuts on guys like that).

 

But, since it didn't happen, that was never in the plans.

 

The Cubs didn't sign any of them. Had they wanted to, they could have. That's my evidence.

 

Where is yours?

 

I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. At all.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Because all I have to do is present evidence for the possibility that they were to refute his statement that they weren't in the plans, which he obviously knows somehow.

 

 

That doesn't refute the idea that the Cubs weren't trying to sign them. You can certainly argue that we don't know for certain either way, but I don't think it's somehow been refuted that they didn't really try.

[Guest]

Because all I have to do is present evidence for the possibility that they were to refute his statement that they weren't in the plans, which he obviously knows somehow.

 

 

That doesn't refute the idea that the Cubs weren't trying to sign them. You can certainly argue that we don't know for certain either way, but I don't think it's somehow been refuted that they didn't really try.

 

Which is all I did.

[Guest]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-4fb67ef5/turbine/chi-rogers-on-wood-smart-enough-to-call-it-a-d-001/600

 

I guess he went up into the bleachers during BP. That's kinda cool.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Because all I have to do is present evidence for the possibility that they were to refute his statement that they weren't in the plans, which he obviously knows somehow.

 

 

That doesn't refute the idea that the Cubs weren't trying to sign them. You can certainly argue that we don't know for certain either way, but I don't think it's somehow been refuted that they didn't really try.

 

Which is all I did.

 

Listen, I'm sorry if I didn't soften my statement by saying that the Cubs might have tried to want to sort of get these guys, but they just lost out on them.

 

The Cubs didn't sign Pujols or Fielder. And it's my opinion that Theo knew they weren't going to sign them for what the market was going to pay them. Sorry, I don't have an actual quote that says that. I just think that.

 

The bottom line remains: I don't believe Kerry Wood really thought the Cubs were going to add a bunch of pieces after he signed in the middle of January.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

 

Yes, but none that the Cubs planned to sign. As much as the fans might have been hoping that Prince Fielder would be signed or some stud pitcher was going to be traded for, that was never the plan this offseason.

 

I'm just confident that on Jan. 13, with spring training a month away, that Kerry Wood did not re-sign with the Cubs thinking that a bunch of pieces were soon going to be in place for this team to be any sort of good.

 

Clearly, you know this.

 

 

That's why they bid on Darvish. That's why they reportedly made offers to both Pujols and Fielder (both of whom they were, unsurprisingly, outbid on because AL teams have more leeway to go nuts on guys like that).

 

But, since it didn't happen, that was never in the plans.

 

The Cubs didn't sign any of them. Had they wanted to, they could have. That's my evidence.

 

Where is yours?

 

I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. At all.

 

Do you have a story to prove this?

[Guest]

Why would they even make a bid on Darvish if they had no intention whatsoever of signing him?

 

Purely for PR? Like most of the meatballs who would be swayed by something like that give a [expletive] or even are aware of the posting process and what is going on (or who he even is)?

[Rizzo Smash]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-4fb67ef5/turbine/chi-rogers-on-wood-smart-enough-to-call-it-a-d-001/600

 

I guess he went up into the bleachers during BP. That's kinda cool.

He said he took his son up into the scoreboard for one last look.

[Guest]

 

Do you have a story to prove this?

 

Andre Dawson and CJ Wilson

 

and countless other examples of players choosing to go where they want to go.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Why would they even make a bid on Darvish if they had no intention whatsoever of signing him?

 

Purely for PR? Like most of the meatballs who would be swayed by something like that give a [expletive] or even are aware of the posting process and what is going on (or who he even is)?

 

No, because Theo is about value. And had Yu come at the price that he felt was good, he would have signed him. But I'd bet more that Theo knew his bid wouldn't win than it would. Again, I have no prove, but I feel Theo is the smartest man in all of baseball. So, I want to believe he realized he wasn't going to get Yu and what it would take, but certainly wanted to put in a bid in case fellow GM's were idiots.