Buehrle to Marlins (p. 5)

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Ken_Rosenthal: Buerhle to #Marlins: 4 yrs, $58M. #MLB

[JockJones]

The Marlins are getting after it.

[UMFan83]

I'm trying to figure out if I would be mad or happy if I was a Marlins fan. Happy that Miami is being agressive and spending money of course. But pissed that the team cried poor for years, almost lost the franchise because the team wouldn't pay up for a stadium and now all the sudden they go from acting like one of the most frugal teams in baseball to acting like a big market team competing with the Red Sox and Yankees.

[RynoRules]

Wow. That seems like a lot for Buehrle.

[Pushfrog98]

I'm trying to figure out if I would be mad or happy if I was a Marlins fan. Happy that Miami is being agressive and spending money of course. But pissed that the team cried poor for years, almost lost the franchise because the team wouldn't pay up for a stadium and now all the sudden they go from acting like one of the most frugal teams in baseball to acting like a big market team competing with the Red Sox and Yankees.

Especially roping the people to pay for MOST of the stadium because they don't have any money. Yeah, I'd be ticked if I lived in that area.

[Clem Fandango]

$14.5 AAV. He's been worth roughly $15M each of the past 3 seasons according to FanGraphs. Paying for past performance, obviously, but Buehlre has been a pretty consistent pitcher his entire career.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm trying to figure out if I would be mad or happy if I was a Marlins fan. Happy that Miami is being agressive and spending money of course. But pissed that the team cried poor for years, almost lost the franchise because the team wouldn't pay up for a stadium and now all the sudden they go from acting like one of the most frugal teams in baseball to acting like a big market team competing with the Red Sox and Yankees.

 

If I was a Marlins fan I really have a hard time imagining that I would be mad at all.

[Guest]

cst_Cowley cst_Cowley

Theo said they checked in on Buehrle early and he was a pitcher they would have loved to have. Too much money for them.

3 minutes ago

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[Omar]

I'm trying to figure out if I would be mad or happy if I was a Marlins fan. Happy that Miami is being agressive and spending money of course. But pissed that the team cried poor for years, almost lost the franchise because the team wouldn't pay up for a stadium and now all the sudden they go from acting like one of the most frugal teams in baseball to acting like a big market team competing with the Red Sox and Yankees.

 

If I was a Marlins fan I really have a hard time imagining that I would be mad at all.

 

If I was a Marlins fan, I probably would not exist.

[dew1679666265]

cst_Cowley cst_Cowley

Theo said they checked in on Buehrle early and he was a pitcher they would have loved to have. Too much money for them.

3 minutes ago

Retweeted by dan_bernstein

 

I would have loved to have him too - on a 2/26 or so deal. 4 years and $15 mil a year for a 33 year old pitcher is crazy, though, no matter how consistent he's been.

[SouthSideRyan]

If I was a Marlins fan I'd have killed myself by now out of guilt.

[17 Seconds]

that's a lot of money for a 33 year old pitcher who has averaged 111 strikeouts over the last 6 seasons (all 200+ IP)

[KingCubsFan]

cst_Cowley cst_Cowley

Theo said they checked in on Buehrle early and he was a pitcher they would have loved to have. Too much money for them.

3 minutes ago

Retweeted by dan_bernstein

 

I would have loved to have him too - on a 2/26 or so deal. 4 years and $15 mil a year for a 33 year old pitcher is crazy, though, no matter how consistent he's been.

Aren't you one of the strongest advocates for CJ Wilson? Seems strange you'd be hesitant to give a extremely durable 33 year old pitcher 4 years, but have no problem giving a 31 year-old (and less durable) a more expensive 6 year contract.

[SouthSideRyan]

There is the fact that CJ Wilson is a better pitcher.

[Backtobanks]

The worst part of all of this Marlin stuff is that it will make Ozzie look like a good manager when they win some games.

[dew1679666265]

Aren't you one of the strongest advocates for CJ Wilson? Seems strange you'd be hesitant to give a extremely durable 33 year old pitcher 4 years, but have no problem giving a 31 year-old (and less durable) a more expensive 6 year contract.

 

Good question, and yes I've been a very strong CJ advocate. The difference between the two is multi-layered. First off, I'm not in favor of giving CJ a 6 year contract - I might if the money is lower than I expect, but my top offer has been 5/90 for him. If it goes above that, I'm ok with us missing out.

 

However, the differences between CJ and Buehrle are what makes me want CJ more than Buehrle. CJ is 31, has thrown right around 700 MLB innings to this point, has been a 5 WAR pitcher on average the past two years, and his K/9 and BB/9 are better than or comparable to Buehrle's and they've gotten better from year one starting to year two starting. Buehrle is 33, has thrown 2,476 MLB innings, has reached a WAR of 5 once in his career, and strikes out close to half the guys per 9 that Wilson does.

 

Wilson is much, much better than Buehrle, younger, and has less mileage on his arm.

[treebird]

If I was a Marlins fan I'd have killed myself by now out of guilt.

 

and now i have an answer for the next time someone asks me what i'd do if i had a time machine

[jersey cubs fan]

The worst part of all of this Marlin stuff is that it will make Ozzie look like a good manager when they win some games.

 

It'll make him look worse when they completely bomb in their new building with no fans.

[SouthSideRyan]

If I was a Marlins fan I'd have killed myself by now out of guilt.

 

and now i have an answer for the next time someone asks me what i'd do if i had a time machine

 

How would you go about making me a Marlins fan?

[treebird]

If I was a Marlins fan I'd have killed myself by now out of guilt.

 

and now i have an answer for the next time someone asks me what i'd do if i had a time machine

 

How would you go about making me a Marlins fan?

 

i'll get jeff conine to pee in your bed in 1993

[Guest]

For SSR:

 

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal

Buerhle with #Marlins: $6M in 12, 11M in 13, 18M in 14 and 19M in 15. Deal also includes 4M signing bonus, deferred without interest. #MLB

[TruffleShuffle]

hahaha. if they're lucky they'll be able to pawn him off while chipping in half the money they owe him in those last two years.

[SouthSideRyan]

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