Re: New GM/Cubs Future News Articles

[MSG T]

 

 

I think GM's get more credit and take more blame then they really should get anyway.

 

Theo is new blood to a lifeless orgainization and the GM position. I am excited but I have tempered expectations for the short term, greater for long term.

 

Who exactly deserves the credit and blame for successful/unsuccessful organizations if not the GM?

 

Gerald Perry.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

 

I think GM's get more credit and take more blame then they really should get anyway.

 

Theo is new blood to a lifeless orgainization and the GM position. I am excited but I have tempered expectations for the short term, greater for long term.

 

Who exactly deserves the credit and blame for successful/unsuccessful organizations if not the GM?

 

Let me play devils advocate:

 

Kenny Williams 2005

 

discuss.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

I wouldn't wipe my dick with this article.

 

and thats saying something considering where its been

 

Why do you think I'm wiping it so often?

[SouthSideRyan]

 

 

I think GM's get more credit and take more blame then they really should get anyway.

 

Theo is new blood to a lifeless orgainization and the GM position. I am excited but I have tempered expectations for the short term, greater for long term.

 

Who exactly deserves the credit and blame for successful/unsuccessful organizations if not the GM?

 

Let me play devils advocate:

 

Kenny Williams 2005

 

discuss.

 

He didn't say successful season.

[Guest]

My cube mate from Boston is rather bitter and doesn't give Theo any credit for the 2 World Series titles.

 

Sour grapes?

 

 

Nope. He's absolutely right. Listen to your bitter cube made from Boston.

 

 

I think GM's get more credit and take more blame then they really should get anyway.

 

Theo is new blood to a lifeless orgainization and the GM position. I am excited but I have tempered expectations for the short term, greater for long term.

 

Why do you feel this way? Considering they are the guy who puts a team together I can't agree with this. Aside from limitations placed upon them by owners and payroll I would think they have one of the biggest impacts on team performance.

 

If that's your stance then the Cubs made the biggest mistake by hiring Theo since his team just had an epic collapse of all time.

 

I prefer the body of work over time. I imagine so does everyone.

 

When did anybody say it wasn't about the body of work over time?

[Guest]

I wouldn't call myself happy, but I think I'm really pleased with Ricketts. For a while I thought he was a meathead, turns out I'm wrong.

 

How did you think he was a meathead?

Hanging out in the bleachers, the romanticism of watching the Cubs and meeting his wife, not firing Hendry. After Hendry was canned but stayed on to finish the trading period. My opinion changed. The family seems very astute.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

I wouldn't wipe my dick with this article.

 

and thats saying something considering where its been

 

Why do you think I'm wiping it so often?

 

my guess would be gonorrhea.

[Guest]

Seems like Cubs fans have a hard time differentiating successful organizations from successful seasons... it's as though they've never experienced the former.

 

#shocking

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

 

I think GM's get more credit and take more blame then they really should get anyway.

 

Theo is new blood to a lifeless orgainization and the GM position. I am excited but I have tempered expectations for the short term, greater for long term.

 

Who exactly deserves the credit and blame for successful/unsuccessful organizations if not the GM?

 

Let me play devils advocate:

 

Kenny Williams 2005

 

discuss.

 

He didn't say successful season.

 

ok. but I'm curious what ya'll think of him as a GM. did he just get lucky one season?

[Laura]

SI:

 

Sources indicate Epstein's move from the Red Sox should be completed within a couple of days. Sources say the two teams were still discussing Boston's compensation for allowing the move, but this is not expected to curtail a deal. It will either be cash or minor-league players going to Boston, but according to people familiar with the deal, the the Red Sox will be content with cash.

 

Cubs owner Tom Ricketts is said by people close to him to be working on other things now, a strong indication that he's confident his top priority -- a new GM --has been settled. Epstein has led the Cubs' wish list for a new GM since they began the process after parting ways with Jim Hendry this season. People who speak to Ricketts say he has long praised the "Red Sox model.''

[Benchwarmer]

Wait...what's wrong with Lichtman?

 

Enlighten me. Seriously.

 

Just kinda unlikeable and arrogant and hard to swallow.

 

I would have no problem with Theo hiring him to head up the stats department and lock him up in a dimly lit basement with an spreadsheet however. Tango or Dolphin either, for that matter.

 

Steve Jobs was arrogant and hard-headed.

 

So was Lou Piniella.

 

So's benchwarmer. Let's hire him!!

 

This team needs to be blown up and that's what Theo will do. It will take 2-3 years to get it on the right track.

[SouthSideRyan]

Watching Sox and Cardinal fans on facebook get all pissy about this is kind of fun.

 

links

 

It boils down to people saying that the Cubs players still suck, as if the GM has no power to replace them and then they just say John Lackey and Carl Crawford repeatedly.

 

I have a Cubs fan bitching because he wanted Friedman, and is convinced Ricketts is broke and will drop the payroll to 80M

[rocket]

 

 

I think GM's get more credit and take more blame then they really should get anyway.

 

Theo is new blood to a lifeless orgainization and the GM position. I am excited but I have tempered expectations for the short term, greater for long term.

 

Who exactly deserves the credit and blame for successful/unsuccessful organizations if not the GM?

 

Let me play devils advocate:

 

Kenny Williams 2005

 

discuss.

 

He didn't say successful season.

 

ok. but I'm curious what ya'll think of him as a GM. did he just get lucky one season?

 

he made some moves that worked out very well for him. i don't think he's a brilliant gm, but he's not one of the worst.

[Guest]

SI:

 

People who speak to Ricketts say he has long praised the "Red Sox model.''

That's an understatement. But then, again there is a lot to admire.

[Guest]

Watching Sox and Cardinal fans on facebook get all pissy about this is kind of fun.

 

links

 

It boils down to people saying that the Cubs players still suck, as if the GM has no power to replace them and then they just say John Lackey and Carl Crawford repeatedly.

 

I have a Cubs fan bitching because he wanted Friedman, and is convinced Ricketts is broke and will drop the payroll to 80M

 

You can thank B&B for spreading that idea.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

 

I think GM's get more credit and take more blame then they really should get anyway.

 

Theo is new blood to a lifeless orgainization and the GM position. I am excited but I have tempered expectations for the short term, greater for long term.

 

Who exactly deserves the credit and blame for successful/unsuccessful organizations if not the GM?

 

Let me play devils advocate:

 

Kenny Williams 2005

 

discuss.

 

He didn't say successful season.

 

ok. but I'm curious what ya'll think of him as a GM. did he just get lucky one season?

 

Middle of the road and getting worse

[minnesotacubsfan]

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ok. but I'm curious what ya'll think of him as a GM. did he just get lucky one season?

 

he made some moves that worked out very well for him. i don't think he's a brilliant gm, but he's not one of the worst.

 

 

I agree. and I think he gets more credit then Ozzie should for the WS even though he isn't a Beane or Cashman or (ORGASM) Epstein.

[bcl412]

Watching Sox and Cardinal fans on facebook get all pissy about this is kind of fun.

 

links

 

It boils down to people saying that the Cubs players still suck, as if the GM has no power to replace them and then they just say John Lackey and Carl Crawford repeatedly.

 

I have a Cubs fan bitching because he wanted Friedman, and is convinced Ricketts is broke and will drop the payroll to 80M

 

Yeah, I'm arguing with some of these people and I don't really know why.

[abuck1220]

i hope praising the red sox model means having a gigantic payroll.

[UMFan83]

My cube mate from Boston is rather bitter and doesn't give Theo any credit for the 2 World Series titles.

 

Sour grapes?

 

Would Duquette have realized the potential in Ortiz and pull him off the scrap heap? Would the Sox win the title in 04 and 07 without him? Would Duquette have sacrificed his Thanksgiving to fly to Arizona and pitch Curt on his plan for the Red Sox and how they plan to build a perrenial contender?

 

Would Duquette have been able to build a competent farm system to develop players like Pedroia, Ellsbury, Papelbon, Buchholtz, Lester, etc.?

 

Nope, Theo just sat around played his guitar and let Carmine handle everything. The only reason Theo was needed was because computer programs cannot be GMs because they can not sign legal documents.

Edited October 12, 2011 by UMFan83

[minnesotacubsfan]

it probably means having the second highest payroll in the division.

[Guest]

Did anyone catch this??

 

georgeofman George ofman

Surprised Sandberg not on Theo's short list. Even more surprised Quade could be back.

49 minutes ago

[minnesotacubsfan]

oh [expletive]

[Shilzzz]

yearly success on a high level no matter difficulty of competition with a team which is balanced between home grown talent and outside acquisitions brought in through either a well handled budget or use of major market status to overhype prospects for effect. that model.

[El Duderino]

Did anyone catch this??

 

georgeofman George ofman

Surprised Sandberg not on Theo's short list. Even more surprised Quade could be back.

49 minutes ago

 

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