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wonder if this is in response to jackson's injury, or if they've decided that he could use the vitters treatment (good contact skills, so rush him along and make him adjust at a higher level when he struggles)
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It's probably the latter because Jackson was only supposed to be out a week. Unless, they found that Jackson's injury is worse than first thought...
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Ha's certainly earned the promotion with his play to this point. It'll be interesting to see how they manage the OF rotation when Jackson comes back.
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I'm wondering who will fill the void left by Ha in Daytona. Kyung-Min Na was called up from EXST to fill Jackson's spot on the roster when he went on the DL. Na is hitless in 4 ABs at AA, so it's possible he gets sent down to Daytona, but is he's just 19 and didn't hit well at Boise last season. Daytona seems like a reach for him, but I understand he was looking good at Mesa, so maybe the Cubs feel comfortable sending to A+. Or...

 

The only OFer on the Peoria roster remotely deserving for a promotion is Szczur. He's only had 103 ABs at Peoria this season, 129 overall when you include last year. He's done well this season but with no power to speak of going .320/.398/.369. I know the Cubs are high on him, maybe he gets promoted. Seems a bit quick to me, but I'm no scout and if he has the athleticism they say he does, he could be ready. In which case, Na could go to Peoria. This one makes the most sense to me.

 

Any better scenarios out there that I'm missing?

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Ha's certainly earned the promotion with his play to this point. It'll be interesting to see how they manage the OF rotation when Jackson comes back.

If Ha has earned his promotion to Tennessee, and I agree he has, then Jackson has certainly earned a promotion to Iowa. If that happens, that would leave Nelson Perez, Ha, Ty Wright and James Adduci in a 4-man rotation that would seem pretty manageable. But when you add in Spencer, who would roll between 1B-OF, and Flaherty getting some time there as well, it will be an interesting juggling act, but not too difficult. Now if Jackson doesn't get promoted...

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Ha's certainly earned the promotion with his play to this point. It'll be interesting to see how they manage the OF rotation when Jackson comes back.

If Ha has earned his promotion to Tennessee, and I agree he has, then Jackson has certainly earned a promotion to Iowa. If that happens, that would leave Nelson Perez, Ha, Ty Wright and James Adduci in a 4-man rotation that would seem pretty manageable. But when you add in Spencer, who would roll between 1B-OF, and Flaherty getting some time there as well, it will be an interesting juggling act, but not too difficult. Now if Jackson doesn't get promoted...

 

Rubi Silva was promoted to Daytona and Kyung-Min Na was sent down to Peoria. I assume when Brett Jackson comes backs and gets his feet wet at Tennessee, he'll quickly be promoted to Iowa.

 

Na was only bumped up to Tennessee because of the emergency roster situation when Jackson and Jim Adduci were DLed.

 

Also, Ryan Cuneo was promoted from extended spring training to Peoria.

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I really want to love this move, and maybe he's more Castro than Vitters, but I can't help but be a tad wary of it right now. Just seems ... rushed. I fully admit I was off about Ha's talent level (thought he was a bit closer to Guyer last year, in terms of talent, but he's handling CF fairly well and his bat has much more potential), but I'm just wary.

 

Considering how great Bour and Ridling have been this year, I'm intrigued with Cuneo, who I liked a bit better out of college than Bour (marginally).

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Rubi Silva? Seriously? Talking about rushing somebody. .285/.305/.358. Yep, let's promote him.

 

toonster, somebody, help me understand why they would choose now as the time to move Silva up a level...

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Ha's certainly earned the promotion with his play to this point. It'll be interesting to see how they manage the OF rotation when Jackson comes back.

If Ha has earned his promotion to Tennessee, and I agree he has, then Jackson has certainly earned a promotion to Iowa. If that happens, that would leave Nelson Perez, Ha, Ty Wright and James Adduci in a 4-man rotation that would seem pretty manageable. But when you add in Spencer, who would roll between 1B-OF, and Flaherty getting some time there as well, it will be an interesting juggling act, but not too difficult. Now if Jackson doesn't get promoted...

Spencers like 26 years old I believe, so he could probably be sent to Iowa. As for Wright and Adduci, are they even considered prospects? If it came down to it, Ha and Perez should be considered no brainers over those 2. Of course I'm all for Jackson to Iowa as well. As someone else said, I just hope it doesn't mean that Jackson is expected to miss more time than they thought.

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Rubi Silva? Seriously? Talking about rushing somebody. .285/.305/.358. Yep, let's promote him.

 

toonster, somebody, help me understand why they would choose now as the time to move Silva up a level...

 

Silva played professionally in Cuba which probably helps the Cubs feel he's ready for the challenge of Daytona. Despite Silva's flaws, he's probably the best option to play CF in Daytona.

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Rubi Silva? Seriously? Talking about rushing somebody. .285/.305/.358. Yep, let's promote him.

 

toonster, somebody, help me understand why they would choose now as the time to move Silva up a level...

 

Silva played professionally in Cuba which probably helps the Cubs feel he's ready for the challenge of Daytona. Despite Silva's flaws, he's probably the best option to play CF in Daytona.

Right. And he's basically done what's expected of him. Good contact, no patience whatsoever, little power. Speed has been a disappointment though.

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Hadn't realized that Adduci was injured as well as Jackson.

 

somebody has to play CF for each of these teams, last night it was Marwin Gonzalez... And Daytona basically had nobody behind Ha. (Did you want turtle Burgess playing center???)

 

Makes sense that Ha, Silva, and Na would get promoted to populate the CF spots.

 

It might not bode well for Jackson being back on Wednesday, though.

 

I'm not keen on promoting Jackson. His average has been on a steady decline for a couple of weeks, and he's not real high in many of the Southern League stats (29th in batting average, 7th in OPS, tie with a bunch for 15th in HR's...) Not like he's crushing that league, and his K-rate is higher than ever, and 30K/4HR ratio isn't real impressive. I'd rather let him play in AA and see ifi he can get any better, or even sustain what he's been. He's got some progress to make, I think.

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I love the depth of CF's in the system, btw.

 

As I'm thinking through the progression of these guys to the majors, I'm realizing how athletic the team could be in the future. We could have tremendous defense in the OF and plenty of team speed. I know speed isn't nearly as important as a great hit tool or power, but there are definitely benefits to having great speed throughout the lineup.

 

On the other hand, I hope some of these guys hit well enough to man a corner position with league average (or better) production for the position.

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Are there any reports on Ha in CF?

 

I agree with Tim, the athleticism in the system is exciting and hopefully a couple guys develop enough power to be able to play left or right.

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I love the depth of CF's in the system, btw.

 

As I'm thinking through the progression of these guys to the majors, I'm realizing how athletic the team could be in the future. We could have tremendous defense in the OF and plenty of team speed. I know speed isn't nearly as important as a great hit tool or power, but there are definitely benefits to having great speed throughout the lineup.

 

On the other hand, I hope some of these guys hit well enough to man a corner position with league average (or better) production for the position.

Jonah Keri wrote a good piece on the new mold of LF like Fuld, Brantley, Gardner we're seeing a lot more of lately, echoing the same benefits you mentioned

 

that said, we still have a glaring need for a power bat or two, which hopefully gets resolved in a big way this offseason via a FA 1B

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Hadn't realized that Adduci was injured as well as Jackson.

 

somebody has to play CF for each of these teams, last night it was Marwin Gonzalez... And Daytona basically had nobody behind Ha. (Did you want turtle Burgess playing center???)

 

Makes sense that Ha, Silva, and Na would get promoted to populate the CF spots.

 

It might not bode well for Jackson being back on Wednesday, though.

 

I'm not keen on promoting Jackson. His average has been on a steady decline for a couple of weeks, and he's not real high in many of the Southern League stats (29th in batting average, 7th in OPS, tie with a bunch for 15th in HR's...) Not like he's crushing that league, and his K-rate is higher than ever, and 30K/4HR ratio isn't real impressive. I'd rather let him play in AA and see ifi he can get any better, or even sustain what he's been. He's got some progress to make, I think.

 

To be fair, Ha (plate discipline) and Silva (plate discipline, lack of power) have issues that should prevent them from being promoted too. That has never stopped the Cubs before. Na is probably the most ready for his promotion of the trio of CFs (if you ignore Na's 2 day layover at AA and consider him a promotion from extended spring training to Peoria).

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Are there any reports on Ha in CF?

 

I agree with Tim, the athleticism in the system is exciting and hopefully a couple guys develop enough power to be able to play left or right.

 

He looks like he has the range for CF. The only concern will be what happens when he gets bigger and stronger down the line.

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I love the depth of CF's in the system, btw.

 

As I'm thinking through the progression of these guys to the majors, I'm realizing how athletic the team could be in the future. We could have tremendous defense in the OF and plenty of team speed. I know speed isn't nearly as important as a great hit tool or power, but there are definitely benefits to having great speed throughout the lineup.

 

On the other hand, I hope some of these guys hit well enough to man a corner position with league average (or better) production for the position.

Jonah Keri wrote a good piece on the new mold of LF like Fuld, Brantley, Gardner we're seeing a lot more of lately, echoing the same benefits you mentioned

 

that said, we still have a glaring need for a power bat or two, which hopefully gets resolved in a big way this offseason via a FA 1B

 

Hmm, sounds like you may have someone particular in mind

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I love the depth of CF's in the system, btw.

 

As I'm thinking through the progression of these guys to the majors, I'm realizing how athletic the team could be in the future. We could have tremendous defense in the OF and plenty of team speed. I know speed isn't nearly as important as a great hit tool or power, but there are definitely benefits to having great speed throughout the lineup.

 

On the other hand, I hope some of these guys hit well enough to man a corner position with league average (or better) production for the position.

Jonah Keri wrote a good piece on the new mold of LF like Fuld, Brantley, Gardner we're seeing a lot more of lately, echoing the same benefits you mentioned

 

that said, we still have a glaring need for a power bat or two, which hopefully gets resolved in a big way this offseason via a FA 1B

 

Sam Fuld is a new breed of LF? Is that breed really bad LFers? Players like this are only useful if they make the bare minimum and play on a team with actual hitters. The best teams in the league don't stay that way via team speed. You get the occasional Florida Marlins team that wins and makes all the followers out there try and replicate it. But you win with production at the plate and pitching.

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While I'm not sure Ha is truly ready for AA, I am excited to see how he'll do at least. Yeah, he needs to learn some serious plate discipline obviously and rushing him isn't the way to go about teaching that to him either. But, his hit tool must really be solid, as evidenced by his low K rate and high number of extra base hits. He's not going to be a Vlad, but if he's a guy who winds up as a 300ish hitter with 15-20 homer power, we've found ourselves a bigtime bargain, considering we spent like 200,000 or so to sign him.

 

Silva's numbers aren't anything special, by any means, but it's probably the right corresponding move. He's 21, has played at a high level in Cuba and we gave him a very nice bonus, to top things off. See what he's got: I wasn't that hyped about him, after reading the scouting reports as it is, so hell, maybe he surprises us.

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