College Basketball 2011-2012

[XZero771679666304]

Leonard averages 20-10 vs Iowa, and they call him soft.

 

That's what I love about Iowa fans. Give them an inch of success and they get cocky/mouthy as hell. Growing up amidst that is what has made me hate Iowa so.

[hawkeyecub]

Leonard averages 20-10 vs Iowa, and they call him soft.

 

Because most of the time we were guarding him with a 6'7 guy who will be playing about 10 minutes per game next year.

Edited March 8, 2012 by hawkeyecub

[Magnetic Curses]

it's hard to even get up hatred for iowa anymore.

[hawkeyecub]

it's hard to even get up hatred for iowa anymore.

 

When two gingers are running wild on you along with a really goofy looking 7 footer, you'll get it back.

[hawkeyecub]

Leonard averages 20-10 vs Iowa, and they call him soft.

 

Did he play in the 2nd half today?

[Magnetic Curses]

but i'll admit, fran's doing a great job and i like him as a coach, they did a great job with that hire. iowa will never challenge for big ten titles with consistency, though. we all should be worried about that veritable fab 5 they have coming in next year.

[Magnetic Curses]

and i know they're really proud of those guys. so more power to them

[Smack]

and i know they're really proud of those guys. so more power to them

 

They've got 4-Star guys coming in at their two biggest positions of need....

[SouthSideRyan]

Leonard averages 20-10 vs Iowa, and they call him soft.

 

Did he play in the 2nd half today?

 

Never saw him.

[Bruno7481]

Honest question, what is it about Howard that most Illini fans I know consider him to be such a prize? I'm not dogging him, I know he's a former player, is it all recruiting related?

[SouthSideRyan]

Honest question, what is it about Howard that most Illini fans I know consider him to be such a prize? I'm not dogging him, I know he's a former player, is it all recruiting related?

 

He doesn't look like this:

 

http://www.btownbanners.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/TCcaffeine-300x145.jpg

[hawkeyecub]

Leonard averages 20-10 vs Iowa, and they call him soft.

 

Did he play in the 2nd half today?

 

Never saw him.

 

LOL. It is mind boggling the way they ignored him when he destroyed us in the first 3 halves and we had the same personnel on him. Iowa did pressure the ball more though and I thought he quit fighting for position when he wasn't getting touches.

[SouthSideRyan]

Leonard averages 20-10 vs Iowa, and they call him soft.

 

Did he play in the 2nd half today?

 

Never saw him.

 

LOL. It is mind boggling the way they ignored him when he destroyed us in the first 3 halves and we had the same personnel on him. Iowa did pressure the ball more though and I thought he quit fighting for position when he wasn't getting touches.

 

If the rest of the season is any indication, he probably had played the entire game and had 2 guys on him the entire time. That tends to exhaust a 19 year old.

[Magnetic Curses]

and i know they're really proud of those guys. so more power to them

 

They've got 4-Star guys coming in at their two biggest positions of need....

 

yeah, i said that we're all really worried about that.

[SouthSideRyan]

and i know they're really proud of those guys. so more power to them

 

They've got 4-Star guys coming in at their two biggest positions of need....

 

And are losing their best player.

[Bruno7481]

Thanks for answering. I'll just assume he is a legend in Illini mind only then.

[hawkeyecub]

and i know they're really proud of those guys. so more power to them

 

They've got 4-Star guys coming in at their two biggest positions of need....

 

I have no idea what to expect of Woodbury next year because big guys are such a crapshoot as freshmen. The one thing that's encouraging early is how he got a top 50 ranking. He doesn't have anywhere near the upside of guys like Leonard or other 7 footers who are raw skill-wise early on but have athleticism and a body. He's really skilled with both hands right now. Short arms for a 7 footer and can't jump but he's a good passer and crafty in the post.

 

Gesell is going to be a stud and far more of an impact guy early on. I think he's more of a top 60-75 guy. ESPN had him there earlier, think he's around 80 or so now.

 

The other two guards will really upgrade the athleticism, depth and perimeter D. Add them with some decent returning core pieces and I think they'll finally have middle of the pack B1G talent for the first time in 6-7 years.

[Magnetic Curses]

the illini have a bunch of 4-star guys all over their roster and the best pg and sg in the state (as juniors in a stacked class) coming in in 2013. big whoop, you don't see us talking much about it.

[hawkeyecub]

the illini have a bunch of 4-star guys all over their roster and the best pg and sg in the state (as juniors in a stacked class) coming in in 2013. big whoop, you don't see us talking much about it.

 

That was all we heard about for the last 4 years.

[Magnetic Curses]

Thanks for answering. I'll just assume he is a legend in Illini mind only then.

 

i have no idea what he does as far as coaching goes. he's been extremely instrumental on the recruiting trail and everyone from chicago to downstate loves him. that's a powerful assistant to have on your bench and the reason why we all want to retain him.

[Magnetic Curses]

the illini have a bunch of 4-star guys all over their roster and the best pg and sg in the state (as juniors in a stacked class) coming in in 2013. big whoop, you don't see us talking much about it.

 

That was all we heard about for the last 4 years.

 

and the reason why the coach is being fired tonight. fran better watch his back.

[bukie]

Thanks for answering. I'll just assume he is a legend in Illini mind only then.

Basically, prior to Howard, the best recruiting talent Weber could land was Jamar Smith and Chester Frazier. However, those teams also overperformed. So, Howard is bringing in fantastic talent, but Weber hasn't been able to use it well.

 

Hopes are that a new coach and a new offensive scheme that actually utilizes the talent would be a good thing, and Howard would continue to facilitate that talent rolling in, instead of watching it leave for Duke/UNC/Kentucky/Kansas all the time.

[Smack]

the illini have a bunch of 4-star guys all over their roster and the best pg and sg in the state (as juniors in a stacked class) coming in in 2013. big whoop, you don't see us talking much about it.

 

That was all we heard about for the last 4 years.

 

seriously

[Magnetic Curses]

the illini have a bunch of 4-star guys all over their roster and the best pg and sg in the state (as juniors in a stacked class) coming in in 2013. big whoop, you don't see us talking much about it.

 

That was all we heard about for the last 4 years.

 

seriously

 

we can't all get jay simpson-level recruits

[Smack]

the illini have a bunch of 4-star guys all over their roster and the best pg and sg in the state (as juniors in a stacked class) coming in in 2013. big whoop, you don't see us talking much about it.

 

That was all we heard about for the last 4 years.

 

seriously

 

we can't all get jay simpson-level recruits

 

What's wrong with Jay Simpson? Hopefully his career will be as bad against Illinois as LewJack's was.