Bears game 9: Sunday Nov. 14 vs MIN on FOX

[jersey cubs fan]

That is my biggest hope for a win here, Favre giving it away. I think he can do it, and I want to count on him, but it's not enough to have confidence.

[soapy]

That is my biggest hope for a win here, Favre giving it away. I think he can do it, and I want to count on him, but it's not enough to have confidence.

 

The problem is they have to put pressure on him to force him into making horrible throws, which they've been unable to do with most QBs so far this season. He's not going to make those terrible decisions and throws if he has time.

[jersey cubs fan]

That is my biggest hope for a win here, Favre giving it away. I think he can do it, and I want to count on him, but it's not enough to have confidence.

 

The problem is they have to put pressure on him to force him into making horrible throws, which they've been unable to do with most QBs so far this season. He's not going to make those terrible decisions and throws if he has time.

 

You underestimate his resolve.

[JonJayCutler]

i really wish favre would st phone it in, hang it up and tarvaris jackson was playing.

 

We have a better chance of winning with Favre playing versus Jackson.

[hawkeyecub]

i really wish favre would st phone it in, hang it up and tarvaris jackson was playing.

 

We have a better chance of winning with Favre playing versus Jackson.

 

Wrong.

 

When our starting center is playing and our line isn't having meltdowns like they did early in the year, he's been a much better option. He's been really good the last two weeks. His INT against NE was on a Percy drop/bobble where the ball was stolen out of his arms and the one last week was when he got hit 1.2 seconds after getting the snap from the blind side. There's no chance in hell Tarvaris wins that game last week.

[SpongeWorthy]

Is Rice gonna play or what?

[hawkeyecub]

Is Rice gonna play or what?

 

Probably won't know until the end of the week. He practiced last week but a lot of it was with the scout team. Everyone said physically he looked 100% in pregame on Sunday and some think he definitely will. Childress seemed to downplay it yesterday. Basically a matter of how his conditioning is and how sore he is recovering. He has until Saturday to be activated.

[JonJayCutler]

i really wish favre would st phone it in, hang it up and tarvaris jackson was playing.

 

We have a better chance of winning with Favre playing versus Jackson.

 

Wrong.

 

When our starting center is playing and our line isn't having meltdowns like they did early in the year, he's been a much better option. He's been really good the last two weeks. His INT against NE was on a Percy drop/bobble where the ball was stolen out of his arms and the one last week was when he got hit 1.2 seconds after getting the snap from the blind side. There's no chance in hell Tarvaris wins that game last week.

 

It's ridiculous how much confidence you all of a sudden have in your team after one comeback win. You're still 3-5 and Favre has still been bad this year. Stop trying to deny that.

[hawkeyecub]

i really wish favre would st phone it in, hang it up and tarvaris jackson was playing.

 

We have a better chance of winning with Favre playing versus Jackson.

 

Wrong.

 

When our starting center is playing and our line isn't having meltdowns like they did early in the year, he's been a much better option. He's been really good the last two weeks. His INT against NE was on a Percy drop/bobble where the ball was stolen out of his arms and the one last week was when he got hit 1.2 seconds after getting the snap from the blind side. There's no chance in hell Tarvaris wins that game last week.

 

It's ridiculous how much confidence you all of a sudden have in your team after one comeback win. You're still 3-5 and Favre has still been bad this year. Stop trying to deny that.

 

What the hell are you talking about? Give me an indication of where I've displayed this extreme amount of confidence? You're completely making that up out of nowhere.

 

Favre is better than Tarvaris and has been really good the last two games. That has nothing to do with confidence in the team.

[JonJayCutler]

i really wish favre would st phone it in, hang it up and tarvaris jackson was playing.

 

We have a better chance of winning with Favre playing versus Jackson.

 

Wrong.

 

When our starting center is playing and our line isn't having meltdowns like they did early in the year, he's been a much better option. He's been really good the last two weeks. His INT against NE was on a Percy drop/bobble where the ball was stolen out of his arms and the one last week was when he got hit 1.2 seconds after getting the snap from the blind side. There's no chance in hell Tarvaris wins that game last week.

 

It's ridiculous how much confidence you all of a sudden have in your team after one comeback win. You're still 3-5 and Favre has still been bad this year. Stop trying to deny that.

 

What the hell are you talking about? Give me an indication of where I've displayed this extreme amount of confidence? You're completely making that up out of nowhere.

 

Favre is better than Tarvaris and has been really good the last two games. That has nothing to do with confidence in the team.

 

It's just hard to imagine a Vikings fan defending Favre like this if they lose that game and are sitting at 2-6. Maybe I'm wrong. But I've talked to a lot of Vikings fans the past couple days who seem to think Favre saved their season on Sunday. I just don't get it. The fact that he helped engineer a comeback victory doesn't change the fact that he's had a pretty horrible first half and that the Vikings are still a rather unimpressive team. And I'm not sure I'd consider his game against the Pats to be "really good". It was alright.

[SpongeWorthy]

Well I can tell you as a Bears fan I'd sure as [expletive] rather have Jackson in there over Favre.

[hawkeyecub]

It's just hard to imagine a Vikings fan defending Favre like this if they lose that game and are sitting at 2-6. Maybe I'm wrong. But I've talked to a lot of Vikings fans the past couple days who seem to think Favre saved their season on Sunday. I just don't get it. The fact that he helped engineer a comeback victory doesn't change the fact that he's had a pretty horrible first half and that the Vikings are still a rather unimpressive team. And I'm not sure I'd consider his game against the Pats to be "really good". It was alright.

 

Well none of that has anything to do with this supposed high level of confidence you claimed.

 

He did save things on Sunday. It doesn't mean the season is going anywhere but when it was dead and everyone else looked like they had one foot in the parking lot, he played a tremendous game and brought them back. As far as the Patriots game he was 22-32 for 260. His one pick was on a ball that Harvin had caught but then had it stolen away. He could have had a TD if Moss didn't give up and he was knocked out of the game one play before Tarvaris came in and hit Tahi with no one around him. He played a really good game.

He hasn't had a good year and made a lot of costly mistakes. But the record isn't all on him and his last two games give me some hope. He's a better option when healthy and protected than Tarvaris.

 

As far as the season it all comes down to the next two games. Win them both and they're 1 back in the division with 6 to go and not a terribly difficult schedule. They're a talented team that had a brutal schedule in the first 7 games and were within 5 points in the last few minutes of every loss. There's a chance to salvage things but they have to be more consistent and play better on the road. Lose 1 of these 2 and they're probably done.

[Soul]

The Packers are really rounding into form now. I think it's WC or bust for both the Bears & Vikes.

[hawkeyecub]

Hub claims he was hearing last night it was still only 50/50 for Childress to coach Sunday and even now it's only 60/40 through the next 36 hours. Where does he get this stuff? If he was going to make the move he would have done it before the off day and sure as hell isn't going to wait until Wednesday night or Thursday. He also seems to be the only guy in the country reporting it as a possibility.

[jersey cubs fan]

Hub claims he was hearing last night it was still only 50/50 for Childress to coach Sunday and even now it's only 60/40 through the next 36 hours. Where does he get this stuff? If he was going to make the move he would have done it before the off day and sure as hell isn't going to wait until Wednesday night or Thursday. He also seems to be the only guy in the country reporting it as a possibility.

 

That's what Hub does.

[DivineBovine]

How often is a 3-5 team favored on the road vs a 5-3 team?

 

I do agree with it though.

[SpongeWorthy]

How often is a 3-5 team favored on the road vs a 5-3 team?

 

I do agree with it though.

 

Not sure but the Niners (2-6) are giving 6 at home to the Rams (4-4).

[cubweiser03]

So has the media come off the stance that the Bears just need to try and run more and it will all of a sudden work? After Sundays performance to the worst running defense i think its pretty obvious the problems isnt the strategy but the offensive line. Hopefully sunday put all that to rest and the blame can be pinned on the line and Angelo.

[hawkeyecub]

I'd really like to see them run 20-25 times for 40-50 yards, but I'm sure they're going all Martzy this week and not even trying to maintain balance in their play calling.

[Banedon]

I'd really like to see them run 20-25 times for 40-50 yards, but I'm sure they're going all Martzy this week and not even trying to maintain balance in their play calling.

 

Actually, I bet they do exactly that...run 20-25 times for 40-50 yards. It was enough to keep the help keep the pass rush off Cutler to some extent last week.

[jersey cubs fan]

So has the media come off the stance that the Bears just need to try and run more and it will all of a sudden work? After Sundays performance to the worst running defense i think its pretty obvious the problems isnt the strategy but the offensive line. Hopefully sunday put all that to rest and the blame can be pinned on the line and Angelo.

 

Has the media come off their stance? The media is praising the balance from Sunday and are practically taking credit for the win by insisting that Martz run more.

[soapy]

So has the media come off the stance that the Bears just need to try and run more and it will all of a sudden work? After Sundays performance to the worst running defense i think its pretty obvious the problems isnt the strategy but the offensive line. Hopefully sunday put all that to rest and the blame can be pinned on the line and Angelo.

 

Has the media come off their stance? The media is praising the balance from Sunday and are practically taking credit for the win by insisting that Martz run more.

 

Right. People seem to be taking the absurd position that running more = win, despite how ineffective the running game actually is. If anything, the insistance on more running plays has/will only increase.

[JonJayCutler]

Lol the Bears fall from 17th to 19th in ESPN's Power Rankings despite winning their game, a road game at that. People keep underestimating the Bills, but whatever. This isn't the 2008 Lions we're talking about here.

 

But this is good. The Bears seem to play better when they're disrespected by the media.

[jersey cubs fan]

Lol the Bears fall from 17th to 19th in ESPN's Power Rankings despite winning their game, a road game at that. People keep underestimating the Bills, but whatever. This isn't the 2008 Lions we're talking about here.

 

But this is good. The Bears seem to play better when they're disrespected by the media.

 

They've been disrespected the past 3 years and are under .500.

[UMFan83]

Lol the Bears fall from 17th to 19th in ESPN's Power Rankings despite winning their game, a road game at that. People keep underestimating the Bills, but whatever. This isn't the 2008 Lions we're talking about here.

 

But this is good. The Bears seem to play better when they're disrespected by the media.

 

I was just about to post that. Oh well. There is a 5-4 team, three 4-4 teams and a 4-5 team ahead of them.