What if Lou finished the year? Who manages?

[drcub1908]

If the Cubs played better or Lou stayed the entire season?

Do the Cubs hire Sandberg or go after Girardi?

 

Thoughts???

[UMFan83]

My thoughts are that it didn't happen that way so its fruitless to speculate on it.

 

But since you asked, no I don't think Mike Quade gets hired if Lou stays the entire season.

[jersey cubs fan]

You might have seen one of those other retreads get the job. It doesn't sound like Sandberg was ever realistic.

[davell]

My guess is Wedge or Melvin would have been our next manager if Lou had stayed. Which I wouldn't have wanted, but I also think that if Lou HAD stayed, we'd have finished out 13-24 or so, instead of 24-13. netting us a much better draft pick. Mainly because Lou simply didn't care at all near the end. One of the few times I actually think a manager COULD have made a difference in win-loss record substantially.

[dew1679666265]

My guess is Wedge or Melvin would have been our next manager if Lou had stayed. Which I wouldn't have wanted, but I also think that if Lou HAD stayed, we'd have finished out 13-24 or so, instead of 24-13. netting us a much better draft pick. Mainly because Lou simply didn't care at all near the end. One of the few times I actually think a manager COULD have made a difference in win-loss record substantially.

 

Just out of curiosity, what do you think Quade did to garner us that record that Lou did not?

[KingCubsFan]

My guess is Wedge or Melvin would have been our next manager if Lou had stayed. Which I wouldn't have wanted, but I also think that if Lou HAD stayed, we'd have finished out 13-24 or so, instead of 24-13. netting us a much better draft pick. Mainly because Lou simply didn't care at all near the end. One of the few times I actually think a manager COULD have made a difference in win-loss record substantially.

 

Just out of curiosity, what do you think Quade did to garner us that record that Lou did not?

I don't really believe managers have much impact on the win/loss record, but these types of changes may have had a short-term effect (from Bruce Levine's article):

The changes were not subtle. On Aug. 23, the team began to take early batting practice before regular batting practice, and it became routine. Quade made sure that players showed up for medicals on time, and if they didn't they were benched. Veterans began to have better communication with the coaching staff, knowing two to three days in advance when they would have a day off. Lineups were posted six hours before game time, something the players had requested while Piniella was still on the job. All of these little things added up to a regiment that defined him to the Cubs front office as the right man for the job.

[NCCubFan]

So basically it sounds like, once the Cubs got a manager who gives a damn, the players started giving a damn too.

[davell]

My guess is Wedge or Melvin would have been our next manager if Lou had stayed. Which I wouldn't have wanted, but I also think that if Lou HAD stayed, we'd have finished out 13-24 or so, instead of 24-13. netting us a much better draft pick. Mainly because Lou simply didn't care at all near the end. One of the few times I actually think a manager COULD have made a difference in win-loss record substantially.

 

Just out of curiosity, what do you think Quade did to garner us that record that Lou did not?

 

Yeah, it's basically what KingsCubFan posted. When I read that, it made me think Lou had totally mailed it in and that the players had actually quit on him. I usually don't believe in those type of things, but I think it does possibly matter in this case.

[dew1679666265]

Yeah, it's basically what KingsCubFan posted. When I read that, it made me think Lou had totally mailed it in and that the players had actually quit on him. I usually don't believe in those type of things, but I think it does possibly matter in this case.

 

I was curious since I didn't watch much after Lou left and the offensive numbers were worse after Quade took over. The stuff sounds good that Levine talked about, I'm not sure how much it had to do with us improving, though.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yeah, it's basically what KingsCubFan posted. When I read that, it made me think Lou had totally mailed it in and that the players had actually quit on him. I usually don't believe in those type of things, but I think it does possibly matter in this case.

 

I was curious since I didn't watch much after Lou left and the offensive numbers were worse after Quade took over. The stuff sounds good that Levine talked about, I'm not sure how much it had to do with us improving, though.

 

It didn't. They beat a couple more crappy teams late in the season. Big deal. It's not like they were beating SF, PHI or hell, even CIN. They played no better.

[Guest]

They were 8-5 against teams competing for the playoffs under Quade. Good, but not really significant of anything.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm just glad they went with a relatively low-key signing. I'm always opposed to "big ego" managers who use their legacies as a crutch like Dusty or Lou, and Sandberg and Girardi would have just been more of that.

[jersey cubs fan]

They were 8-5 against teams competing for the playoffs under Quade. Good, but not really significant of anything.

 

You are including free falling Cardinals and Padres teams there?

[Guest]

They were 8-5 against teams competing for the playoffs under Quade. Good, but not really significant of anything.

 

You are including free falling Cardinals and Padres teams there?

 

The first Cardinals series, not the second when they were all but eliminated. And yes, I included the Padres series where they were 1 game out and 7-7 in their last 14 going into the series.

[jersey cubs fan]

They were 8-5 against teams competing for the playoffs under Quade. Good, but not really significant of anything.

 

You are including free falling Cardinals and Padres teams there?

 

The first Cardinals series, not the second when they were all but eliminated. And yes, I included the Padres series where they were 1 game out and 7-7 in their last 14 going into the series.

 

And like 3-11 in their previous 14. San Diego was a mirage all season and it caught up to them. They were crap since the middle of August.

[Guest]

Okay?

[Soul]

I'm just glad they went with a relatively low-key signing. I'm always opposed to "big ego" managers who use their legacies as a crutch like Dusty or Lou, and Sandberg and Girardi would have just been more of that.

 

I'm on board with that sentiment.