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What do you think the record is for most managers hired by a single, non-WS winning General Manager?

 

JH is at 3 now.

 

Doug Melvin's going on at least 4.

 

Just looked it up, he's actually only hiring his 3rd this offseason. He was hiring in October 2002, he hired Yost for 2003, then Yost was famously fired in September 2008 and replaced by Dale Sveum. But he was only an interim manager, and to me that doesn't count because it doesn't go against his GM track record. Then after that season he fired Ken Macha for the last 2 years and now will be hiring his 3rd. But Hendry beat him to the punch.

 

I looked up Dombrowski, Jocketty, Colletti, Sabean and none of them have made 3 managerial hires at their current (or St. Louis for Jocketty) position.

 

Dombrowski and Jocketty have won WS, no?

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What do you think the record is for most managers hired by a single, non-WS winning General Manager?

 

JH is at 3 now.

 

Doug Melvin's going on at least 4.

 

Just looked it up, he's actually only hiring his 3rd this offseason. He was hiring in October 2002, he hired Yost for 2003, then Yost was famously fired in September 2008 and replaced by Dale Sveum. But he was only an interim manager, and to me that doesn't count because it doesn't go against his GM track record. Then after that season he fired Ken Macha for the last 2 years and now will be hiring his 3rd. But Hendry beat him to the punch.

 

I looked up Dombrowski, Jocketty, Colletti, Sabean and none of them have made 3 managerial hires at their current (or St. Louis for Jocketty) position.

 

Dombrowski and Jocketty have won WS, no?

 

Ahh yes that too

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What do you think the record is for most managers hired by a single, non-WS winning General Manager?

 

JH is at 3 now.

 

Doug Melvin's going on at least 4.

 

Just looked it up, he's actually only hiring his 3rd this offseason. He was hiring in October 2002, he hired Yost for 2003, then Yost was famously fired in September 2008 and replaced by Dale Sveum. But he was only an interim manager, and to me that doesn't count because it doesn't go against his GM track record. Then after that season he fired Ken Macha for the last 2 years and now will be hiring his 3rd. But Hendry beat him to the punch.

 

I looked up Dombrowski, Jocketty, Colletti, Sabean and none of them have made 3 managerial hires at their current (or St. Louis for Jocketty) position.

 

Does re-hiring the same manager count? It is still a managerial hiring decision.

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Colletti hired Little, Torre, and now Mattingly.

 

Geez, he hasn't even been there that long has he? Little quit pretty quickly and then Torre quit after a couple years too, right?

 

That's right I forgot about Torre leaving and Mattingly replacing him. So theres 3 of them. And only 1 is quasi respected, and that's because he's been able to build an almost respectable team in a tiny market (at least for a couple of years until he traded everyone away for a wild card appearance).

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Don't take that [expletive] from a filthy Texan.

 

I want to see a duel.

Slow down, Skippy. Just because I live in Texas now doesn't mean I am a Texan.

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For those who didn't watch the last 37 games of this dreadful season, how is Quade as a manager in terms of decisions? His record is good, at 24-13, sure, but did he get lucky or did he manage really well?

 

No one has responded... Something tells me only Fred can answer this question.

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For those who didn't watch the last 37 games of this dreadful season, how is Quade as a manager in terms of decisions? His record is good, at 24-13, sure, but did he get lucky or did he manage really well?

 

No one has responded... Something tells me only Fred can answer this question.

 

The answers you seek are within this thread.

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I'm happy. Spending big money on a manager is pointless; they mostly don't matter. Quade did relatively well as manager, I thought -- handled the bullpen pretty well, realized Soto was better than Hill, etc. The Castro thing was dumb, but I'm over it.

 

I was honestly really worried they'd try to make a big splash with a manager and sell that to fans as the major off-season acquisition. Not that I think they will necessarily sign a big free agent, but at least they don't have the crutch of the "big name/move" manager.

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No point in spending big money on a manager in order to manage a team that probably won't be able to contend next season. Good move to sign Quade and save money. Bring in Adam Dunn now, please.
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he's not sandberg, so whatever.

 

that's how low my expectations are with this organization's decision making right now. my hopes for a successful offseason were "hire whoever, just not sandberg"

 

you never let me down, cubs.

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I think he will be the Cubs' manager for a long, long time.

 

If you're right, it will mean he'll get decent results in 2011 and 2012 despite Hendry being GM, which would be fine with me.

 

I think Quade is a good fit for the team in the state it's in now, so I'm fine with this hire.

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The implication that Sandberg was wronged somehow is ludicrous.

 

The Cubs gave the man four years to make a case for himself - and he failed.

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It's not that he necessarily "failed;" it's that in the grand scheme of things he has barely any managing experience at all yet people are expecting the job to be served to him on a silver platter because of who he was as a player. It's hilarious listening to the radio shows where the hosts and callers try to make it sound Sandberg was slighted because he toiled so hard for four whole years in the minors. OH GOD, NOT FOUR YEARS, HOW DID HE EVER SURVIVE.
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The implication that Sandberg was wronged somehow is ludicrous.

 

The Cubs gave the man four years to make a case for himself - and he failed.

 

And it's not just the drooling buffoons. There was moderate support for "Sandberg was screwed" on BTF.

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I am thrilled with the Cubs giving the job to Quade. I think he will be the Cubs' manager for a long, long time.

 

 

Agree!....Think he will surprise a lot of people.

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No point in spending big money on a manager in order to manage a team that probably won't be able to contend next season.

 

I know this is popular sentiment but there is really no reason this team can't contend for the division in 2011.

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No point in spending big money on a manager in order to manage a team that probably won't be able to contend next season.

 

I know this is popular sentiment but there is really no reason this team can't contend for the division in 2011.

 

That, and I don't understand why he says the Cubs won't contend but also that he wants them to go out and sign Dunn.

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No point in spending big money on a manager in order to manage a team that probably won't be able to contend next season.

 

I know this is popular sentiment but there is really no reason this team can't contend for the division in 2011.

There's a lot to be done. They're not particularly good at anything, besides quality starts.

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No point in spending big money on a manager in order to manage a team that probably won't be able to contend next season.

 

I know this is popular sentiment but there is really no reason this team can't contend for the division in 2011.

There's a lot to be done. They're not particularly good at anything, besides quality starts.

 

As bad as this division is they really don't need to "do" much in terms of how the team is constructed right now. Adding someone like Dunn would go a long way.

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For those who didn't watch the last 37 games of this dreadful season, how is Quade as a manager in terms of decisions? His record is good, at 24-13, sure, but did he get lucky or did he manage really well?

 

No one has responded... Something tells me only Fred can answer this question.

 

The answers you seek are within this thread.

 

Luke, just use the force.

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No point in spending big money on a manager in order to manage a team that probably won't be able to contend next season.

 

I know this is popular sentiment but there is really no reason this team can't contend for the division in 2011.

There's a lot to be done. They're not particularly good at anything, besides quality starts.

 

There's a lot to be done to make this a really good team, but you don't have to be really good to win the NL Central. The 2008 Cubs are the only team in the division over the past five years to win more than 91 games, and 2 out of those 5 took 85 or less. There isn't an early 2000's Cardinals juggernaut to contend with. This team could make one or two moves and get just a little bit of luck and win 85-89 and be in contention for the division. The Giants weren't all that special this year but they are poised to knock out the dominant Phillies. Without the Yankees or Red Sox in their league, let alone division, anything can happen.

 

The Cubs should be doing what the Phillies have been doing the past 8 years, finishing over .500 every season, winning 90+ and the division with regularity and representing the NL in multiple WS. But before that happens, they can still contend.

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