NFL Week 6

[Soul]

I don't think the Vikings are as flawed as they are off to a slow start. I think the Vikings should be considered the favorites at this point. The Packers are very hobbled but should stay in contention. The Bears? I have no clue but my gut says a level below those 2. Vikings still have to go 8-3 if they want to win 10 games. Packers have to go 7-3, Bears 6-4

 

It does look like a 9 win ballclub might win the North.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't think the Vikings are as flawed as they are off to a slow start. I think the Vikings should be considered the favorites at this point. The Packers are very hobbled but should stay in contention. The Bears? I have no clue but my gut says a level below those 2. Vikings still have to go 8-3 if they want to win 10 games. Packers have to go 7-3, Bears 6-4

 

I think they are off to a slow start due in large part to their biggest flaw, relying on an old prima donna QB who refuses to practice.

[Flames24Rulz]

I don't think the Vikings are as flawed as they are off to a slow start. I think the Vikings should be considered the favorites at this point. The Packers are very hobbled but should stay in contention. The Bears? I have no clue but my gut says a level below those 2. Vikings still have to go 8-3 if they want to win 10 games. Packers have to go 7-3, Bears 6-4

 

I think they are off to a slow start due in large part to their biggest flaw, relying on an old prima donna QB who refuses to practice.

 

I was watching the Vikes-Cowboys game with a few friends and I think all of us decided that the weak link of that team is none other than the QB himself. You can make the argument that they have no real legitimate WR's right now but over the course of the last 15 years, I've heard that Brett Favre makes wide receivers. That Percy Harvin guy isn't all that bad either.

 

I think the Vikings have the fewest flaws right now in the division, though. I don't really think it's particularly close either. The Packers and Bears both have pretty big question marks in quite a few areas on the field. Once Minnesota gets out of this tough part of their schedule, they'll be able to see light at the end of the tunnel. We're banged up and in the midst of our tough stretch while the Bears end the season with their tough portion of the schedule. I think 9 wins will take the North too but unfortunately, I think Minnesota is best lined up to do it right now.

[dew1679666265]

You can make the argument that they have no real legitimate WR's right now but over the course of the last 15 years, I've heard that Brett Favre makes wide receivers. That Percy Harvin guy isn't all that bad either.

 

You might have been able to make that argument a couple of weeks ago, but not since they traded for Moss. He's one of the best in the league and Harvin is decent.

[Flames24Rulz]

You can make the argument that they have no real legitimate WR's right now but over the course of the last 15 years, I've heard that Brett Favre makes wide receivers. That Percy Harvin guy isn't all that bad either.

 

You might have been able to make that argument a couple of weeks ago, but not since they traded for Moss. He's one of the best in the league and Harvin is decent.

 

For some reason, I completely blanked on that.

[Banedon]

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[NewUserName]

 

I was watching the Vikes-Cowboys game with a few friends and I think all of us decided that the weak link of that team is none other than the QB himself. You can make the argument that they have no real legitimate WR's right now but over the course of the last 15 years, I've heard that Brett Favre makes wide receivers. That Percy Harvin guy isn't all that bad either.

 

 

I have watched more Vikings fb the last couple of weeks then I would usually want to. The one question that keeps coming to my mind is Would their backup QB be any worse? I cant imagine he would and they would be giving a younger guy more reps to learn with.

[Soul]

 

I was watching the Vikes-Cowboys game with a few friends and I think all of us decided that the weak link of that team is none other than the QB himself. You can make the argument that they have no real legitimate WR's right now but over the course of the last 15 years, I've heard that Brett Favre makes wide receivers. That Percy Harvin guy isn't all that bad either.

 

 

I have watched more Vikings fb the last couple of weeks then I would usually want to. The one question that keeps coming to my mind is Would their backup QB be any worse? I cant imagine he would and they would be giving a younger guy more reps to learn with.

 

Now, yeah. But I'm pretty sure the thought is that Favre will round back into form, at least to a degree. And when/if he does it will be better than the backup.

[dew1679666265]

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That's pretty funny.

[Flames24Rulz]

And for some reason, Colin Cowherd decided he was going to make Aaron Rodgers his whipping boy today -- the only reason I knew about this was because one of our beat writers decided to tweet about it. So I decided to look at the 12 games that we lost by 4 points or less.

 

2008

 

L 24-27 VS Atlanta - 25/37, 313 yards, 3 TD/1 INT. Played with a separated shoulder, suffered the week before.

 

L 16-19 in OT @ Tennessee (Titans went to 8-0) - 22/41, 314 yards, TD/INT. Packers never got the ball in OT.

 

L 27-28 @ Minnesota - 15/26, 142 yards. Not a good game by any stretch, but he led us down the field with a chance to win and Crosby banged a 52 yard FG off the upright on the final drive of the game.

 

L 31-35 VS Carolina - 29/45, 298 yards, 3 TD/1 INT. Decided to kick an 18 yard FG on 4th and goal at the 1 instead of going for it late. Defense proceeded to give up a TD in two plays to end the game.

 

L 21-24 VS Houston - 19/30, 295 yards, 2 TD/1 INT. Rodgers led a game-tying drive but Houston kicked a game-winning FG as time expired.

 

L 16-20 @ Jacksonville - 20/32, 278 yards, 1 TD/1 INT. I'll put this on Rodgers because he had a chance to win the game and threw a pick on the final drive of the game. Defense gave up a late TD after taking the lead with around 5:30 left in the game, though.

 

L 17-20 in OT @ Chicago - 24/39, 260 yards, 2 TD/1 INT. Rodgers led the offense down the field with a chance to win at the end of regulation, but Crosby's FG was blocked. Bears won the coin toss and we never got the ball in OT.

 

2009

 

L 36-37 @ Pittsburgh - 26/48, 383 yards, 3 TD/0 INT, also a rushing TD. Pittsburgh gets a TD on the final play of the game on a drive where the Steelers went 3/3 on 4th down conversions.

 

2010

 

L 17-20 @ Chicago - 34/45, 316 yards, 1 TD/1 INT (on a hail mary at the end of the half), also a rushing TD. A costly fumble by James Jones on the final offensive drive of the game ends up being the deciding factor.

 

W 28-26 VS Detroit - 12/17, 181 yards, 3 TD/2 INT. We could've put this game away midway through the 2nd but a jump ball INT at the Detroit 10 kept the Lions in the game. Packers had to hold on to beat a winless Lions squad.

 

L 13-16 @ Washington in OT - 27/46, 293 yards, 1 TD/1 INT. Rodgers leads the offense down the field with a chance to win the game at the end of regulation, but Crosby misses the game-winner. An interception in OT on a helmet-to-helmet hit costs the Packers the game.

 

L 20-23 VS Miami in OT - 18/33, 313 yards, 1 TD/1 INT, also a rushing TD. Great drive to end regulation, resulting in an extra frame. Bad field position and a three and out leads to another OT loss.

 

Rodgers has given us chances to win almost all of those games. It's not the QB play for why we're 1-11 in those 12 games. Keep guessing.

[dew1679666265]

I have watched more Vikings fb the last couple of weeks then I would usually want to. The one question that keeps coming to my mind is Would their backup QB be any worse? I cant imagine he would and they would be giving a younger guy more reps to learn with.

 

It's not a perfect comparison by any means, but this is interesting:

 

Brett Favre 2010
58.7% comp      6.5 ypa      6:7 TD:INT

Tarvaris Jackson 2008
59.1% comp      7.1 ypa      9:2 TD:INT
Career
58.7% comp      6.7 ypa      21:18 TD:INT

 

Very, very similar numbers. The reason I picked 2008 for Jackson is that this year Favre has thrown 150 passes, Jackson threw 149 in 08. Seemed like the closest comparison. I threw the career in there to take in his weaker years as well.

[Magnetic Curses]

junior seau roided out and tried to kill himself early this morning.

[JonJayCutler]

I don't buy that the Vikings have the best chance to win the division. Their secondary is awful and their D-Line has been very underwhelming. Their QB situation is a serious problem. But the GB-MIN game will pretty much decide whether or not this becomes a 3-horse race.

 

And yeah I don't think Rodgers can be mentioned in the Manning/Brady/Brees category anymore, at least for the time being. Gotta win games even if it's not his fault when they lose.

[Soul]

Rodgers has given us chances to win almost all of those games. It's not the QB play for why we're 1-11 in those 12 games. Keep guessing.

 

Nice stats, but seriously.

 

Watch the man play. He's fantastic. He does just about everything well. Even if there was a share of Rodgers mistakes in those games, I would still say he's heading towards being one of the absolute best, if not at that top level already.

 

He's in his 3rd year as starter. His first two seasons have both been 4,000+ yards, 60%+, Great TD/INT ratio campaigns.

 

There's just no way he deserves to be mentioned as a problem the Packers have, or even close. Look almost anywhere else first.

[NonProfitCow]

I don't buy that the Vikings have the best chance to win the division. Their secondary is awful and their D-Line has been very underwhelming. Their QB situation is a serious problem. But the GB-MIN game will pretty much decide whether or not this becomes a 3-horse race.

 

And yeah I don't think Rodgers can be mentioned in the Manning/Brady/Brees category anymore, at least for the time being. Gotta win games even if it's not his fault when they lose.

What?

[Soul]

Gotta win games even if it's not his fault when they lose.

 

Senseless.

[Flames24Rulz]

He's going to need to win a playoff game, or even more than just that, for people to get off his back.

 

I understand it. I don't agree with it, but I understand that position. I don't think it's going to be this season with how depleted we are but it needs to happen very soon otherwise the meatheads/meatballs are going to criticize Rodgers to no end.

[Soul]

I'd love it if the Green Bay meathead crowd succeeded in driving Rodgers from GB, and you wound up with Flynn.

 

Please let that happen.

[Flames24Rulz]

I don't buy that the Vikings have the best chance to win the division. Their secondary is awful and their D-Line has been very underwhelming. Their QB situation is a serious problem. But the GB-MIN game will pretty much decide whether or not this becomes a 3-horse race.

 

And yeah I don't think Rodgers can be mentioned in the Manning/Brady/Brees category anymore, at least for the time being. Gotta win games even if it's not his fault when they lose.

 

Jared Allen is going to wake up sooner or later, one would think. I agree Minnesota's secondary isn't very good but they've actually been ok this year.

 

Their flaws aren't any worse than Green Bay's or Chicago's right now.

[Flames24Rulz]

I'd love it if the Green Bay meathead crowd succeeded in driving Rodgers from GB, and you wound up with Flynn.

 

Please let that happen.

 

There's not a chance in hell that's happening. Everyone associated with the organization and 95% of the fans know Rodgers is an elite level QB.

[Magnetic Curses]

meatball. "the situation" doesn't care about sports at all i don't think.

[dew1679666265]

And yeah I don't think Rodgers can be mentioned in the Manning/Brady/Brees category anymore, at least for the time being. Gotta win games even if it's not his fault when they lose.

 

I don't understand this. Are you saying Rodgers should be (not a resigned will be, but you actively think he should be) considered below those three because of factors outside of his immediate control?

 

I agree people will dismiss him until his teams start winning playoff games/Super Bowls, but I don't think that should be the case.

[SpongeWorthy]

How the hell did Jacksonville get a Monday Night game?

[Old Style]

Has this been posted yet?

 

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[UMFan83]

How the hell did Jacksonville get a Monday Night game?

 

It's a test to see if Jacksonville needs to get relocated. Give them a MNF game against a mediocre draw and if they can't sell it out, they're gone.