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That's the best red card Suarez is going to get.

 

And what is Gyan thinking right now? He's going to have to take a penalty in the shootout also (or so I'm assuming since he's taken three now in the tournament).

 

National Hero for a Red Card maybe?

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Sick penalty for the win

 

GO URUGUAY.

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Intentional goal-line handballs should be goals. Bad rule.

It's a red card and a PK. It's a big enough advantage.

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That's got to be one of the top-5 most crushing losses in the history of sports.
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Intentional goal-line handballs should be goals. Bad rule.

It's a red card and a PK. It's a big enough advantage.

 

It still encourages players to blatantly cheat in situations like this.

 

Make your penalty. They're not that hard.

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Intentional goal-line handballs should be goals. Bad rule.

It's a red card and a PK. It's a big enough advantage.

 

It still encourages players to blatantly cheat in situations like this.

 

How about when a receiver burns a corner on bump and run coverage and is running wide open for a TD and he reaches out and grabs a handful of a jersey? Should we just give the team a TD instead of pass interference?

 

It's not really cheating. It's a desperation tactic. There's nothing wrong with it.

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fouling a guy on a breakaway should be 2 points. forget about free throws

 

man was it great seeing Mensah totally bone his PK. F you, you Adebisi looking mf

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How about when a receiver burns a corner on bump and run coverage and is running wide open for a TD and he reaches out and grabs a handful of a jersey? Should we just give the team a TD instead of pass interference?

 

It's not really cheating. It's a desperation tactic. There's nothing wrong with it.

 

Football does have situations where the referee awards points when the other team does something blatantly illegal to prevent an obvious score. If a player goaltends a field goal, for instance, or if a coach or sideline player interferes. Actually, I think the NFL rules not only provide specific directions like that, they give the referee blanket powers to award points in any situation he feels that it is necessary to restore the fairness of the game.

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fouling a guy on a breakaway should be 2 points. forget about free throws

 

man was it great seeing Mensah totally bone his PK. F you, you Adebisi looking mf

 

Imagine if goaltending just got you free throws instead of the basket.

 

On a last-second play, up by three, you could just have your big guy stick his hand up through the basket. That would let missed shots still miss, knock out shots going in, and force them to make three free throws instead. That would be comparable to what happened here.

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How about when a receiver burns a corner on bump and run coverage and is running wide open for a TD and he reaches out and grabs a handful of a jersey? Should we just give the team a TD instead of pass interference?

 

It's not really cheating. It's a desperation tactic. There's nothing wrong with it.

 

Football does have situations where the referee awards points when the other team does something blatantly illegal to prevent an obvious score. If a player goaltends a field goal, for instance. Actually, I think the NFL rules not only provide specific directions like that, they give the referee blanket powers to award points in any situation he feels that it is necessary to restore the fairness of the game.

 

Blatantly illegal things are punished on the field. Cheating is somehow going around the parameters of the game to give yourself an advantage. And if someone is able to goaltend a field goal I'd say that's pretty cool and they should not give points just for the sake of novelty.

 

Uruguay didn't do anything any other team wouldn't have done in the same situation. It's fair, IMO.

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Blatantly illegal things are punished on the field. Cheating is somehow going around the parameters of the game to give yourself an advantage. And if someone is able to goaltend a field goal I'd say that's pretty cool and they should not give points just for the sake of novelty.

 

Uruguay didn't do anything any other team wouldn't have done in the same situation. It's fair, IMO.

 

Take it up with the NFL.

 

I don't blame Uruguay for doing what the rules dictated they should do. Any smart team would. Fix the rules so that cheating isn't the smart play.

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fouling a guy on a breakaway should be 2 points. forget about free throws

 

man was it great seeing Mensah totally bone his PK. F you, you Adebisi looking mf

 

Imagine if goaltending just got you free throws instead of the basket.

 

On a last-second play, up by three, you could just have your big guy stick his hand up through the basket. That would let missed shots still miss, knock out shots going in, and force them to make three free throws instead. That would be comparable to what happened here.

 

Of course the chance to take a PK is worth far more in soccer than any individual field goal in basketball is.

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fouling a guy on a breakaway should be 2 points. forget about free throws

 

man was it great seeing Mensah totally bone his PK. F you, you Adebisi looking mf

 

Imagine if goaltending just got you free throws instead of the basket.

 

On a last-second play, up by three, you could just have your big guy stick his hand up through the basket. That would let missed shots still miss, knock out shots going in, and force them to make three free throws instead. That would be comparable to what happened here.

 

Of course the chance to take a PK is worth far more in soccer than any individual field goal in basketball is.

 

The chance to take the PK is a chance to replace exactly what was lost, no more or less. That is the exact same thing free throws in basketball.

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That's got to be one of the top-5 most crushing losses in the history of sports.

Does Fangraphs do the World Cup? The split-second before the handball, while the ball was in flight, U's probability mightn't have been measurable.

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Blatantly illegal things are punished on the field. Cheating is somehow going around the parameters of the game to give yourself an advantage. And if someone is able to goaltend a field goal I'd say that's pretty cool and they should not give points just for the sake of novelty.

 

Apparently, it happened in 1962 and the rule was changed in 1963 to address it.

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y2VUJqZ8YCg/SxadfBRLAiI/AAAAAAAAADo/X8j12wR-RRQ/s1600-h/RC-Owens.jpg

 

(don't know why the image link won't work. just go to this link, it's a cool photo:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y2VUJqZ8YCg/SxadfBRLAiI/AAAAAAAAADo/X8j12wR-RRQ/s1600-h/RC-Owens.jpg)

Some examples of the history of NFL and NCAA football rules involving unfair acts:

 

http://quirkyresearch.blogspot.com/2009/12/blogging-nfl-rule-book-palpably-unfair.html

 

From the NFL summary of penalties

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries

Touchdown Awarded (Palpably Unfair Act)

When Referee determines a palpably unfair act deprived a team of a touchdown. (Example: Player comes off bench and tackles runner apparently en route to touchdown.)

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