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but seriously, cleveland has any number of flip murray-level scrubs on the floor at once.

 

can't wait until they disappoint again.

I think they at least make the finals. The Magis were a problem for them when they had Hedo. Now that they don't have that mismatch in their advantage I think Cleveland beats them.

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Well without him they're still better than the Bulls, so I don't see why not.

 

Shaq/Z

Hickson/Varejao

Jamison/Moon

Williams/Parker

West/Gibson

They might contend for the 4th/5th seed if they were healthy.

 

Shaq/Z is better then Noah and Miller, but not much. Jamison is bettr then Deng, and it's not close. West/Williams are a solid backcourt, but I believe Rose/Hinrich is both better defensively and offensively. Stats wise Hickson and Gibson are the same. Cleveland would have the advantage at C and SF, the Bulls have the backcourt, it's a wash at PF.

 

If Cleveland is better, it is minute.

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but seriously, cleveland has any number of flip murray-level scrubs on the floor at once.

 

can't wait until they disappoint again.

I think they at least make the finals. The Magis were a problem for them when they had Hedo. Now that they don't have that mismatch in their advantage I think Cleveland beats them.

 

i'm telling you, they're going to lose to the magic again.

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Well without him they're still better than the Bulls, so I don't see why not.

 

Shaq/Z

Hickson/Varejao

Jamison/Moon

Williams/Parker

West/Gibson

They might contend for the 4th/5th seed if they were healthy.

 

Shaq/Z is better then Noah and Miller, but not much. Jamison is bettr then Deng, and it's not close. West/Williams are a solid backcourt, but I believe Rose/Hinrich is both better defensively and offensively. Stats wise Hickson and Gibson are the same. Cleveland would have the advantage at C and SF, the Bulls have the backcourt, it's a wash at PF.

 

If Cleveland is better, it is minute.

 

Well, you're right about Jamison.

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Well without him they're still better than the Bulls, so I don't see why not.

 

Shaq/Z

Hickson/Varejao

Jamison/Moon

Williams/Parker

West/Gibson

They might contend for the 4th/5th seed if they were healthy.

 

Shaq/Z is better then Noah and Miller, but not much. Jamison is bettr then Deng, and it's not close. West/Williams are a solid backcourt, but I believe Rose/Hinrich is both better defensively and offensively. Stats wise Hickson and Gibson are the same. Cleveland would have the advantage at C and SF, the Bulls have the backcourt, it's a wash at PF.

 

If Cleveland is better, it is minute.

 

Well, you're right about Jamison.

 

Lebron James less Cavs are not significantly better then the Bulls. That is a myth. Are they better, very slim, but Lebron is the sole reason why people think Cleveland can win.

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i would take joakhim noah every day of my life over jeff green

Jeff Green is a very versatile defender and better scorer. Noah is a much better rebounder. Noah can play a premium position, while Green is a combo forward, which are a dime a dozen, so I can see why you'd say Noah. Maybe I was just playing it cautious so as to not come over as overly biased.

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Cavs without LeBron would basically be Milwaukee, which managed a 6 seed

 

And there's nothing wrong with that. The Bulls without Jordan had a great year the first year after he left, but that was a core that just won 3 titles. The next year when they lost Grant and Armstrong, they were a .500 team and I believe a 6-7 seed when MJ came back.

 

I think the Cavs would win 45-50 games without James, but they wouldn't get anywhere in the playoffs.

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i would take joakhim noah every day of my life over jeff green

Jeff Green is a very versatile defender and better scorer. Noah is a much better rebounder. Noah can play a premium position, while Green is a combo forward, which are a dime a dozen, so I can see why you'd say Noah. Maybe I was just playing it cautious so as to not come over as overly biased.

 

maybe im biased because im sick of watching PFs destroy jeff green in the paint (not really his fault, he's not a PF) and then watching him sit his ass on the 3 point line the entire game on offense. Oh and get 6 rebounds per game.

 

i would give green and at least one of our first rounders for noah without even blinking

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i would take joakhim noah every day of my life over jeff green

Jeff Green is a very versatile defender and better scorer. Noah is a much better rebounder. Noah can play a premium position, while Green is a combo forward, which are a dime a dozen, so I can see why you'd say Noah. Maybe I was just playing it cautious so as to not come over as overly biased.

 

maybe im biased because im sick of watching PFs destroy jeff green in the paint (not really his fault, he's not a PF) and then watching him sit his ass on the 3 point line the entire game on offense. Oh and get 6 rebounds per game.

 

i would give green and at least one of our first rounders for noah without even blinking

But that does have partially something to do with fit. With Kevin Durant, Green can't play SF, where his rebounding wouldn't be as much of a liability, and OKC really needs a solid big man. So a lot of teams would probably like Noah just because capable big men are harder to find in general, but Green is pretty talented.

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Random, but has anyone seen this video of MJ in the Windy City Classic game in 1994 at Wrigley? I saw this when it happened but haven't seen highlights since this. Pretty awesome video even if Jordan is playing for the Sox.

 

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I've just accepted that any post sulley makes about the Cavs is trolling. TT, you would be better off to do the same.

 

The Bulls have played really well, and the Cavs have definitely had more trouble with them than I expected. But, isn't it still 2-0? I know it might make some of you feel better to say that IF jmoon hadn't played so well or IF the Cavs hadn't shot so well. But, they did. And, they won.

 

If you haven't followed the Cavaliers the past few years, what LeBron did isn't anything too astonishing. He was usually good for something like that 2-3 times a month.

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as if anthony parker's sister doesn't beat him regularly

She could beat me anytime she wanted.

 

she's hot but she's pregnant with shelden williams' demon seed

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Anyone intersted in tickets for tomorrow? I bought 2 tickets in the 300 level for the game last week but I had an unexpected expense and now I can't afford them. The face with fees is $50 each, but at this point I'd consider going down to $40 to get rid of them ASAP.
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but seriously, cleveland has any number of flip murray-level scrubs on the floor at once.

 

can't wait until they disappoint again.

I think they at least make the finals. The Magis were a problem for them when they had Hedo. Now that they don't have that mismatch in their advantage I think Cleveland beats them.

Ah yes, Hedo who has torn it up with the Raptors this year. And Vince Carter who's done nothing at all for the Magic.

 

They are even better than they were last year, fear the Magic.

 

They also have a healthy and effective Jameer Nelson who wasn't at their disposal last ECF

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